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Just now, Walker88 said:
I assume that people here can access everything from media to US government websites. It's all available, and the beauty of it...it's free.
haha. As soon as someone on here not from your "tribe" posts then there is the universal bleeting about sources. One rule for thee ..etc.
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Not a lot of social-distancing being shown over the past few days. Guess the Corona Panic is over now and we can all get back to our regular lives.
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1 hour ago, Walker88 said:
The vast majority of those exercising the rights granted them in the very first Amendment of the US Constitution, so important to Thomas Jefferson and James Madison they put "the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" before any other rights, have been peaceful.
Some people have behaved badly, but those people did not include anyone in Layfayette Park on 1 June when 45 had them gassed, flashbanged and shot with rubber bullets so he could engage in a photo-op.
Now, as it turns out, many of those both fomenting and engaging in acts of violence are white supremacist groups and far-right groups, such as Proud Boys, Boogaloo Boys, and the 3 Percenters.
The FBI stated on Tuesday that they found no evidence of "Antifa" in the violent protests, but did find that various far right terror groups were engaged in violent behavior and were fomenting violence in online chat rooms and social media platforms. They identified members of white supremacist groups masquerading as "Antifa" on social media. Twitter also found this and suspended the fake accounts.
LE in Portland arrested three "Proud Boys" members who had dressed an black (trying to mimic Antifa) and had engaged in malicious destruction of shops and businesses while peaceful protests were happening around them.
The FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and the Las Vegas PD announce charges against 3 alleged members of the right-wing extremist group "Boogaloo" with violating state & federal laws, "for conspiracy to cause destruction during protests in Las Vegas".
Interesting that despite no FBI evidence of any violence by so-called "Antifa", AG barr named Antifa a 'domestic terror group' on Monday. He has yet to announce the same designation to Proud Boys, Boogaloo Boys or the 3 Percenters.
Both the FBI and the Dept of Homeland Security have released reports saying that over 70% of all domestic terror attacks since 9-11 have been carried out by white supremacist groups. Still, the AG has yet to designate any of these groups as 'domestic terror groups'.
Now, in the cities of the United States, armed troops, claiming to only be "Dept of Justice" are fighting with and arresting peaceful protesters. These troops are wearing no insignia and no name tags, making them essentially 'secret police' and violating US law. These individually and unit unidentified armed troops even attacked members of the press, including some from Australian TV.
You have made a lot of claims of fact in your post without even one citation. I ask you kindly to provide references for your claims as I would find it disturbing if even some of the claims were true. I don't doubt you, I merely wish to be properly informed.
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Before you pin racism on the general police population you need to factor in the people killed by black cops.
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7 minutes ago, stevenl said:Posted earlier already, in this link it is confirmed by authorities that white supremacist groups are inciting violence. But I'm sure you'll find something wrong with it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/mayor-says-he-was-incorrect-in-saying-every-person-arrested-in-minneapolis-protests-was-from-out-of-state/#30fdc3b1233c
Thanks for trying Steven but there is nothing in there that supports the claim of right-wing or Proud Boys.
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3 minutes ago, utalkin2me said:
Gonna be alota flat screen tv boxes on the curb for trash pickup this Tuesday.
They seem to be burning them in the middle of the streets so that will help. ????
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3 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:They were all doing a tough job managing the riots while POTUS sent out mixed messages some of which were incendiary. Meanwhile POTUS had a pleasant day at Kennedy Space Center twice.
Sure. Mayor Frey (?) was doing it tough by telling the protesters/rioters to make sure they were wearing masks and to keep social distancing.
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Amusing to see the twitter feed of the sports writer.
First off it's "burn the s... down" with a nice photo of a burning building.
Later it's "they are now attacking my area/building. Stop these animals".
Naturally he is copping heaps from everyone because he cheered them on when it was in the poor area but started crying when they moved upmarket to his place.
Sweet.
Cannot link - see Timcast.
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4 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:
Check out Salt Lake City bow and arrow guy.
Thanks for that. What a moron. The world is full of weirdos.
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23 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:
Actually, Twitter is providing much better coverage on the ground right now, but posting it is not allowed.
I just saw a policewoman on the ground being attacked by the mob. Sorry, I cannot show it to you.
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Even without the travel restrictions I think I would be delaying my trip back to the US at the moment.
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42 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:
But the riots are not restricted to Minneapolis are they?
They are also taking place in states run by republicans.
Where? Most of the rioting is being done in Democrat places as I see it.
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The CNN reporter was using a delaying tactic to try for a better story. Guess he got what he was looking for. You don't try to engage in conversation in those situations, just move in the direction indicated.
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54 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:They finally arrested the murderer cop Chauvin, Why was he only charged with third degree murder? He was intentionally trying to choke Floyd to death.
Pure supposition spidermike. Premeditation or intent is much harder to prove so the prosecutor will often go with the easier case. Still worth up to 25 years if convicted.
Same charge as the other Min cop who shot the white Aussie girl.
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2 minutes ago, JackThompson said:
They would likely not be included, unless directly attacked, for the very optics-reasons to which you allude.
Understand your point but when the hot stuff is flying any help is ok.
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58 minutes ago, Thechook said:
The province of Australia.
Nei Hau Cobber
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5 minutes ago, soalbundy said:It's the only real tourist attraction that Thailand has
Yep. I have already seen far too many temples around Asia as it is.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Japan in this thread. The Js are itching to get stuck back into their mortal enemies again and have quietly built up their armed forces. Cannot do it by themselves but would definitely join in.
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3 minutes ago, simple1 said:
For theft? Surely only if a looters actions are causing an immediate threat to life.
nope
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58 minutes ago, stevenl said:With Trump's attacks on the media and his deleted tweets about shooting the looters, this is Trump related.
Looters should be shot.
Just saw the story about the black firefighter who had his new bar burnt down. Lost everything.
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3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:The old ‘I take no responsibility at all’ joker in the pack.
He never had anything to do with armed protestors storming State Capital buildings, or armed Nazis marching in US streets but in both instances he had something to say about ‘good people’.
The arrest of news crews and the attack on the First Amendment is of national importance.
Wow! Even more disingenuous than usual CH.
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TAT PROMO:
April sets new record for tourist arrivals.
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16 hours ago, Pilotman said:Have you been to a Go Go lately? 2,000, will get you a couple of beers and a packet of nuts.
I always take my own nuts with me wherever I go.
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30 minutes ago, pookondee said:
Why not just simply put the responsibility/culpability right back to the user(s) who post lies and rubbish?
If every user had to be verified with I.D, and actually held personally responsible for their own comments, all the rubbish would end tomorrow.
If a site allows lies to be posted, and they are deemed to be a publisher, then they too are liable. eg. A NYT reporter writes something libelous, the offended person can sue both the reporter and the paper.
As to your second point, social media would disappear if we could not write rubbish anonymously ????
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U.S. defense chief opposes deploying troops to quell protests, despite Trump threats
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Don't know what they would be arrested for but sure, anything you say. (and let's just call every armed white guy a nazi, yes?) How about the unarmed black ex-police chief who was shot and killed whilst trying to defend his friend's store? Maybe he should have been armed too.