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Centipedees do not live in water but in humid and dark places. Its common all over Thailand.

Typical Sun rubbish.

Hope the guy in the pic lost a lot of money. Some are just dumb.

Many Thais are unfit to have children. But who cares.

Multiple re- entry permit is 3,800 Baht

I think it is actually a quite nicely designed building Shame that it will be hidden behind the shop houses, once finished.

Much better looking than the block going up by Arcade bus station.

I guess spending the night up there must be an amazing experience. Sunset, sunrise and all the stars.

But carrying the equipment up there is a different story.

I rode past the base (where the trail to the summit starts) last year at around 9:00. I was just out on a ride and not intending to hike up..

There was no one there who could have stopped me from hiking up.

I paid 20 Baht (Thai DL was accepted) at the check point for riding in on a Honda Wave

On my way back, around 10:30, a group of young Thais (parking their 2 pick-ups in the small parking area next to the road) were getting ready to hike up.

According to them it takes around 5 hrs. to reach the summit and one is advised to spend the night up there.

You need to bring your own equipment, water and food.

Lonely Planet quotes:

It actually makes for a really good day climb. It took me 8 hours return, including about half an hour at the summit and some shortish stops along the way to watch birds or take a sip of water. I guess hardcore climbers could shave off about an hour or so with fewer stops. 10 hours would probably be sufficient for people who prefer a more leisurely pace :-)

Logistically, it's easy. You need a permit to enter the national park. I got mine at the national park office, which is just up the road from Malee's Bungalows and Chiang Dao Nest, up a steep track on the right as you head towards the forest temple at the end of the road. When you buy your permit, tell them how long you want to use it for .... it costs 200 baht, usually in national parks this is the fee for a single entry but I requested 3 days on mine, and they gave me the 3 days without any additional charge. You also pay 30 baht for a motorbike, and no doubt there is a charge for a car too. I think that officially you need a guide to go to the summit, but I just explained that I was birding in the area (which is true) and the permit was issued with no further questions.

You can now also buy your permit at the checkpoint on the Muang Kong road (on the way to the trailhead). This checkpoint was unmanned at 6.15am this morning when I passed by, so if planning an early start it is probably best to get one from the park office in advance.

Access to the trailhead is straighforward enough, but you will need your own transport (motorbike or car). Heading west along the minor road from Chiang Dao/Chiang Dao Cave, there is a fork in the road just before Malee's and Chiang Dao Nest. The left fork leads to Malee's etc. Take the right fork. After exactly 2km, you reach the national park checkpoint. From here, continue uphill on the concrete road for another 8.2km. There is an obvious car parking area on the left with signs in Thai and a wooden shelter.

From the parking area, the trail to the summit is narrow but well-defined. It's mostly a steep climb for the first 45 minutes, then the trail levels out for some time, with only minor ascents and descents. You can't really go wrong with your route as there is mostly only one way to go. The only place where you must make a decision is at a new signpost (all in Thai) - at this point, turn left in the direction of the 3 arrows. 30 minutes after the sign, there's a steady - but not too steep - uphill climb to the camping area. From the camping area, you initially descend into a valley before climbing steeply through a forested limestone crag to the summit. The view from the top - on a sunny day like today - is spectacular.

I did the climb in sneakers which were adequate, although they got quite wet as for long sections of the trail you are brushing through tall grasses and bushes which in the early morning are laden with dew. Best wear shorts or quick-dry pants, as heavy pants will get very wet. After rain, the trail would be very muddy and slippery, especially the first 45 minutes of the climb. Hopefully we're into dry season now and the rain will become infrequent. Overall, it wouldn't be a particularly tough climb for anyone in good physical shape. Enjoy!

Another fine driver.

Thai driving at its best. All, and not only the black Vios are constantly changing lanes.

Surprised ?

I have to say at least the army in charge is actually doing something that has not been done in the past decades

Agreed.

Moo Ban Sinthana. Just outside the under pass road. Easy to get to Meechok, Central Festival and the inner city.

The Moo Ban is an older one with lots of mature trees and plenty of empty plots.

Googe map/streetview shows the entrance.

https://www.google.co.th/maps/@18.8070417,99.0301743,3a,35.2y,91.83h,86.18t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5mVa_HUt9eJ4R7sTkbkBfQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!5m1!1e4?hl=en

On the canal road in Ban Nam Prae. https://josbakery.wordpress.com/find-us/

Beet root and other pickles https://josbakery.wordpress.com/in-jars/

knew that u would be first , please read my opening post again, and get a good grip of yourself,(if poss)

your above post and answers are not in any way, shape or form related to my questions

you are full of wind

Indeed.

Too late.

Ridiculous.

After 2 years, we just got rid of our management company who charged 36K/month for a manager, a cleaner and some rechnical support, if needed.

The transition went through quite smoothly.

The new company does the same job for 28K and is on a 3 month trial. All in all, they appear to be pretty much into everything.

Its always good to have a caring and controlling board.

Still, I am grateful for other recommendations, just in case

After 2 years, we just got rid of our management company who charged 36K/month for a manager, a cleaner and some rechnical support, if needed.

The transition went through quite smoothly.

The new company does the same job for 28K and are on a 3 month trial. All in all, they appear to be pretty much into everything.

Its always good to have a caring and controlling board.

Still, I am grateful for other recommendations, just in case

My 60sq meter condo in Jomtien is still 10 baht/sqm/mo

7200 baht a year. I can't complain.

Very cheap indeed. Can u post a picture of the building please ?

Would be interesting to knowwhat the company name is and what Mr. Arwut is charging for his services.

If the old manager stole money, there might not be enough left for a major revamp.

This is way off topic as usual. The initial question was probably misunderstood.

The OP is not about how much you pay per sqm/month or year (common fee), but what does the management company charge for their service per month (excluding water, electricity, security, insurance, etc.).

Most of you do maybe not know, as you've never checked.

Anyways, the ones of you who do know, please share.

In most cases there is not a management company, but a Juristic Person, who is on a fairly modest salary, but may get a few good benefits. However, some of the larger developers, like in BKK, may bring in more of a turn-key type management company, then turn it over to an elected board of homeowners (not farang) and a JP. There isn't much of a mark-up at all, but there always seems to be some ways for the JP to make extra cash by managing units for owners, and getting commissions on rentals and resales.

The management company is a juristic person. They employ the manager, who works at the condo office and handles all issues like maintenance, payments, etc.

According to section 37 of the condominium act, the condo board consists of 3 to 9 persons, who will make all relevant decisions and are supervising the manager.

Section 37/1 states who can become a board member. Farangs are not excluded, as I am a board member in our condo.