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  1. It's not a hard water vs. soft water problem, nor a chlorine taste issue, the water just has a bit of a dirt taste.

    I was only curious to explore people's fears of microbes. At least from my tap, it seems safe in that respect.

    It's awesome that you are performing an experiment for the benefit of humankind on the presence, or lack, of microbes in the water and I for one can barely contain my excitement to learn what the long term health benefits of heavy metals and other less obvious contaminants are to human organs. Do post updates over the next few years.

    As for the quote above, I almost fell off my chair. A bit of dirt taste. So not "clean taste" then. That's the taste of prime Bangkok sewage inadequately treated.

    Here's a clue, has the Director of the Bangkok Water Authority (or whoever is in charge, if anyone is in charge actually) ever come out in public declaring that he and his family, including his beloved children, are drinking water straight from the tap?

    If you think a country that believes safety standards are for pussies might actually send potable water through to its population, well, you've been drinking that water too long.

    Freshwater fish like catfish often have a "dirt taste," and they are fine. Having a dirt taste doesn't mean it's dirty (although I wouldn't rule it out either).

    Has the Director of the Bangkok Water Authority had the tap water? Not in Bangkok, but elsewhere in Thailand officials have had some tap water as a PR thing.

    "Officials from Provincial Waterworks Authority in Songkhla province drink tap water to assure the public of its safety."

    http://news.asiainterlaw.com/expert-downplays-health-concerns-salty-tap-water-bangkok/

  2. bacteria, that might be the cause for some people getting sick, but your stomach can get used to them by increased exposure, which I did

    The ultimate proof is soi dogs. They don't drink filtered water and don't get sick, I once saw a soi dog nibbling on a roadkill rat that was flat and already dry from days in the sun. But then, dogs live only 10 years, maybe because they don't drink filtered water?

    If you're not used to the bacteria, then it doesn't matter if you get a little exposure to that bacteria or a lot of exposure to the bacteria. A spoon full or a glass full, it's going to do it's thing on your system.
    Bacteria doesn't work like a chemical poison to which you can build up a strong tolerance or a weak tolerance to depending on your degree of exposure.
    I remember when I lived in India a Brit telling a bizarre story about building up a tolerance to the bacteria in the water by drinking just a sip a day, then two sips. It doesn't work that way. It's like a virus: You're body has antibodies for it, or it doesn't. You can't get used to a virus bit by bit by slight exposure. You catch it, then you become immune (or you die).
    So if the water is dirty, drinking just a little bit each day to build a tolerance to the bacteria isn't going to matter. If your body can get used to the bacteria, then you might as well just start off with drinking a big jug of it.
    But this isn't the case with the Bangkok tap water anyway. As far as bacteria go, it seems to be safe. I can't speak for other chemicals in the water that may have long-term effects.
    Your soi dog analogy was weird. The systems in a dog are completely different. Just cuz something is healthy for a dog doesn't mean it's healthy for a human.
  3. I 've been drinking it for years before the floodings, no problem at all.

    Wow. I think you are a serious rarity. A Thai friend of mine says that her friend who lives in Lat Phrao drinks that tap water as well.

    An no cancer, nor aliens springing free from your tummy?

    People are pretty shocked at the idea though. Some people are thinking, "Well, I just wouldn't do it myself," but others react like a I scooped a cup full out of the mighty Jao Phraya and guzzled it down.

  4. Ok I didn't watch the video because I just cannot look at someone sitting on the john but for you experiment I do think that you should read some medical journals prior. Now I do have a relative who works for the water treatment authority in Bangkok. She has a Masters in Chemistry and has stated many times that the water is purified to a high standard. She states that it is drinkable. However, she never does without filtering. The long term effects of the water won't be noticeable. Yes, immediate bacterial reactions may or may not occur depending on how sensitive someone is. Toxins and other residues could be so small but constant build up after years could do serious damage.

    There was a Quincy episode long time ago where one friend donated blood to the other. The one that received died. The investigation showed that he had been poisoning his friend for years with small traces of arsenic. It didn't kill him but his blood was so tainted that it killed the poisoner during the blood transfusion. So in fact he killed himself by poisoning his friend.

    My point is that the small traces will not cause noticeable reaction to you but may do serious long term damage that cannot be undone.

    Why risk it?

    Those are interesting points. I suppose the same could be said for tap water anywhere?

    I mentioned that there may still be other bits of danger in the water beyond bacteria in my original post. Most people laughed it off when the government claimed "The water is safe to drink." I think most people think you'll get diarrhea if you drink it, so I'm showing that you won't. As for whether there may be other chemical in there that will get you in the long run, I can't say.

  5. Perhaps you could do a before and after series of photographs of your bowel movements; we could then discuss how the tap-water is affecting the consistency, shape etc..........coffee1.gif

    I do commend your efforts though; the glorious Japanese have a saying;

    虎穴に入らずんば虎子を得ず。 (Koketsu ni irazunba koji wo ezu) Literally: If you do not enter the tiger's cave, you will not catch its cub.

    Meaning: Nothing ventured, nothing gained. / You can't do anything without risking something.

    Read more: http://www.linguanaut.com/japanese_sayings.htm#ixzz3EnGZ2kTb

    This is bizarre coincidence, but the word you have there for baby tiger 虎子 also means "potty," the little portable toilet that young kids get potty-trained on. The reading changes to "maru" in that case. "If you don't go into tiger's hole, then you can't get your little potty." Amazing depth in your selection of proverbs on so many levels.

  6. I'm happy to see that all the other problems have been solved in North Korea and now they can focus on mobile phone etiquette guidelines.

    other thing I was surprizeThe d is, can they afford to have mobile phones there?

    Or this is planning for the future when their dear leader snuffs it and they are free to live a better life?

    Yes....it makes me wonder how much truth and how much propaganda is in the stories we are told of their impoverished state.

    Watch or listen to a few decent documentaries on YouTube or the web, especially those with defectors and refugees' accounts, and you will know very well that this is the most abysmal and abusive regime on the planet. As to phones, they are probably basic, dirt-cheap ones that the better off people can afford.

    I think you're being naive to believe those documentaries and interviews.
    I'm not saying that things are awful in North Korea, just that there's no reason to think those interviews aren't propaganda, or heavily exaggerated description by the people seeking refuge/asylum.
  7. Yes, I addressed the different resiliences that people have to bacteria.

    I have a filter, I just wanted to see if the water was safe to drink. People are always stressing how dangerous it is, but I've never met anyone who drank it, so it made me wonder why everyone is so sure it's dangerous.

    I agree with DP25, who is the first person I've encountered who says they drink the tap water. It doesn't taste very good. It's not a hard water vs. soft water problem, nor a chlorine taste issue, the water just has a bit of a dirt taste.

    I was only curious to explore people's fears of microbes. At least from my tap, it seems safe in that respect.

  8. It is great to know public employees working late at night are so grounded in reality.

    Clearly they need to hire a more effective medium to ghostbust that spirit. Perhaps for the same amount as those pricey microphones for the fancy audio system getting scrutiny?

    Or maybe they could just let the ghost sweep the floors, and save on personnel costs?

  9. I have read that only 30% of people can become physically addicted (and thus will get headaches when they stop drinking coffee), but now I can't find that online...

    When I don't drink coffee, I feel like I get a headache around noon, but that could just be in my head. <--what a clever and ingenious joke

    But really, my headaches may have nothing to do with caffeine withdrawal, and just be coincidental.

  10. "Diplomats are about smoothing relations, not about importing a new controversy."

    We'll assume you're not a student of history.

    Yes, of course diplomats do things that don't smooth relations, of course sometimes they push agendas from their home countries, as I agreed with you in your other post. It is a separate matter, though, to do it for personal reasons. I'm glad the guy got married, I wish happiness to the couple. But that seems like an uncool choice considering his position.

    I see nothing morally wrong with smoking pot, but I think it would be out of place for a diplomat to smoke pot in a country where doing so is illegal. Unless the diplomat's home country is trying to push a policy of other-countries-should-stop-arresting-pot-smokers, in which case, it's part of the job, like your South Africa example. If diplomats decide to smoke a joint on their own, then it should probably be smoked without calling the press.

    Pushing a personal message as a diplomat is uncool.

    I like your profile gif, btw. Totally cute.

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  11. It sounds like the goal is, more than matrimony, to piss off the Chinese. Doesn't seem very diplomat-like...

    There is no shortage of things that almost certainly piss off the Chinese. Are the British or Americans or whoever going to cower for fear of ticking off the Chinese? Being diplomatic does not equate to hiding in closets of any sort.

    During the Apartheid period the US Ambassador to South Africa was an African American who often put himself in the middle of some dicey situations. I doubt P.W. Botha was pleased, but because of his visible intervention, it's possible Apartheid ended a bit sooner than it otherwise would have.

    Yes, the U.S. did that because the U.S. was taking a stand against Apartheid. The U.S. government wanted to send a message. Do you think that's what happened in China? The UK wants to take a stand on gay marriage? If that's the case, then what this diplomat did is keeping with what diplomats are hired to do.

  12. Wow, what a total shocking surprise, the U.S. tortured detainees.

    I'm sure there is alot worse going on than just waterboarding.

    Whether you think it's deserved or not, whether you agree that it may be a necessary means to an end or not, I am in shock that politicians in the U.S. express shock at this.

    This war and global domination business is a dirty game, and the U.S. is an excellent player at that game.

  13. This is such a disturbing story... of course the hiring company should be held responsible, and the criminal can't possibly be punished harshly enough.

    The guy is a Burmese immigrant though... with the need to find a guilty party, what's the chance he's being framed? The underclass and foreigners are always an easy scapegoat in every country in the world, I shouldn't need to remind anyone

  14. There has been nasty imitation green tea for years all over the world (bar East Asia)... I remember when the Arizona Tea company in the U.S. came out with nasty green sweet Kool-Aid they called "Green Tea" in the late 90s. In Thailand, there is some funky weird candy-like "green tea" in all the convenient stores.

    Marketing geniuses don't believe the real stuff will sell, so they sweeten for the lowest common denominator, the dumbed-down masses (I don't mean the folks in Thailand, I mean all human beings on this planet).

    Many tea shops and coffee stalls aim for that candy, lowest-common-denominator taste captured in the convenient store drinks.


    Until the discerning market emerges, we're stuck with the weirdness + sugar in everything...

  15. Yesterday I extended my 60-day visa at the Jaeng Wathana or whatever the transliteration is.

    It was fastest I have ever had anything done there, I was in and out within an hour. They were smiley and nice.

    Not to contradict the original post, just sayin'

    What type of 60 days visa did you extended at Jaeng Watthana?

    Sorry, I should have specified that.

    I was extending a 60-day, double-entry tourist visa for 30 days.

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