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On 18/12/2016 at 1:15 AM, KittenKong said:

 

Do you think that Thais ever feel any remorse or guilt for anything? I dont.

 

Thais dont arrive on time or dont do what they say they will do because they simply dont care in the slightest about anyone other than themselves. They dont care that the person who they have promised to do the work for has arranged his schedule to ensure that the work can be done properly, or that he wants the work done by a specific date/time for a specific reason that is important to him.

 

This is exactly the same reason why they double-park in the middle of a busy road when there is an empty parking space 5 yards away, and why they drop litter everywhere, and why so many of them will scam and lie and cheat and generally disobey the law: they simply dont care how much inconvenience they may be causing to others, as long as what they do suits themselves.

There's two aspects to this - a lack of social education, starting from the example set by the top layers of society -- and farangs lack of understanding of the Buddhist mindset. 

13 minutes ago, georgemandm said:

Not sure what you are trying to say 

( argue & moan ) about what ? .

just about everything and anything  --  usually brought upon themselves due to their inability to enjoy the differences of living in Thailand.... 

2 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I guess that the reason for the latest change is to force people who want to visit here more than twice to get an METV. That is, making sure that frequent visitors maintain an established residential and financial base in their country of origin, and that they go back to their country of origin regularly rather than renewing their visas (or visa exeptions) in the region. Alongside all the other changes, this looks very much like part of an overall rich guys in poor guys out strategy.

This makes sense.  A tourist arrives from his home country, tours the destination and goes home.  Excursions to neighbouring countries are just that and the METV allows for a nice holiday.  For someone who wants to stay long-term, they need to consider the myriad of other options.  Work, Marriage, Investment, Elite, Retirement, 5/10 year retirement, etc, etc.   Can anyone justify a stay in Thailand that is not covered by one of these options?

Try getting someone to work in most african or arab countries,  Conversly, try it in India - you'll be trampled

Take a very short holiday in Laos?  

yes -- the first extension is dated from the date your application is accepted.  Subsequently you can apply to renew the extension 30 days before it expires and not lose any days.  I seem to remember some immigration offices allowing renewals up to 45 days early without penalty -  but you'd need to check with your Immigration Office.

5 minutes ago, irlguy1 said:

Income method ?
Don't u need proof of earnings for that ?


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The proof requirement varies from embassy to embassy.  You need to check with your own country's embassy :)

8 minutes ago, ozmeldo said:

You know, it's really no big deal. Each time they've accepted the paperwork. There's no difference between the marriage and retirement visa save for a few bits of paper and an addl 10k that needs to be sitting in a sketchy Thai bank doing nothing. My wife is happy to go with me and the paperwork is put together is s few hours.

 

STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT NOTHING

 

Yeah, give me a five year visa, but I'm ok with the paperwork.

 

You want to whinge? Reporting every 90 days. That's ridiculous.

 

Retirement visa is also NON immigrant, non residence so before all you speshul snowflakes start feeling like winners, put it in perspective.

 

It's only a matter of time till they realize that 75% of the people affirming at embassies 65k monthly income is a huge lie and it will be a million in the bank for all.

Unless you want to work in Thailand, what is the advantage of not being "NON_IMMIGRANT" as a retiree.

For the Thai immigration to revoke the embassy letters would involve a huge declaration of no-confidence in the countries involved.   As a matter of fact, immigration have asked for backup documentation for embassy letters in the past.

The difference in cash tied up is 400,000Baht.  Retirement has no requirement for cash in a Thai bank if the income method is used.

I appreciate it is no big deal for you, and that's great.  I only add this reply for the benefit of future readers :)

11 minutes ago, steve187 said:

maybe easier, but more money tied up.

You don't need to tie any money up if you use the income method -- as many of us have been doing for many years

If you're over 50 it's much easier to get a retirement extension

It appears that the main requirement is that the "centre of your life" is in the country to which you wish to "import" your wife.  7by7 knows lots more about this. 

Pushing the bounds of what the regulations are trying to control only makes things tighten up every time they are revised.  Such behaviour is unforgiveable when there are options which are totally non-contentious and will not raise an eyebrow anywhere.  Such selfish behaviour is making everyone else's life difficult.

4 minutes ago, smedly said:

Type O-A visa 12 month requiring medical/police check and funds in bank in your home country, can be extended for 1 year if you leave and enter Thailand before it expires - you need to perform 90 day reports at local Immigration.

 

Type O visa single (90 days) or multiple entry (12 months) (the later only available to those getting a UK state pension)

Type O Multiple entry you must leave Thailand every 90 days (this visa is also extendable)

Type O single entry you must leave Thailand after 90 days or use the option to extend it in Bangkok for which you must meet the criteria which can be found on this forum - over 50 800k baht in Thai bank etc etc

 

the above is pretty simplistic to understand and there might be some very slight variance but overall it is accurate

 

Most people when they come to Thailand with the intent to stay long term get a 90 day Type O and extend it for 12 months, by far the easiest and most convenient method to retire here, if you don't meet the financial requirements then you shouldn't be wanting to retire in Thailand anyway

Nicely put. 
There are several routes to an annual retirement extension and the extension does not need money tied up in Thailand if the applicant uses the income method. 

Applying for a visa from the embassy/consulate in UK will possibly involve medical and police reports, which can be avoided if you enter Thailand on a permit, and then convert it to an O at the local immigration office, and then extend that annually, based on retirement.

90 day reports are the same no matter what visa or permission-to-stay or extension is in use.

2 hours ago, undurraga said:

I wrote been "with" her.  The "with" was supposed to indicate that we've been a thing whenever I visit LOS but no, I have not lived in Thailand for 11 years straight.  I've only been visiting her for 1-3 months a year for 11 years.  Next year I was hoping to retire and move into "our" house.  The retirement is still on - moving into "our" house, not so much.  Up to you.

You could try to start the process with her - to get the house and land split and getting yourself a lease on the land, etc, etc -- as many guys have done.  As soon as the gf sees that it's becoming a bit official, you will start to get the real story -- probably after a few false starts.   The upside of this is you might actually get somewhere to live for your retirement.  Be careful -- you'd not be the first retiree who had his retirement cut short in the dead of night,,,,,,

In contrast to the normal standards of "good posting" -- One guy who posts useful and informative stuff in his sphere of knowledge is Nontabury -- so I'll make him my third choice.

2 hours ago, chiang mai said:

I remember last years fight only too well, I think the person who won then and the person who will win this year is not necessarily deserving of the Best Poster Award but more so the Most Intestinal Fortitude Award (or the person who can tolerate the most abuse award). Thankfully that's not me and whilst I'm grateful for being nominated, please delete my name from the list. Thanks.

Well -- if it's for the most annoying, narrow-minded and snobbish -- I'll nominate Grouse :)

If "Thai food" == "Food eaten by Thai people", that allows for endless Big Macs, KFC, Svensens, 7-11 "sandwiches", and so on.

The question posed by the thread is ambiguous at best and wide open to abuse......

5 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

Really?

Ownership start on the way to the graveyard? Did you just figure that out?

At least in Farangland you own the land, not just borrow it.

You can own your shroud, coffin, grave-plot and headstone for all of time, but everything else will very quickly become someone-else's To reduce costs, get cremated as the plot size for an urn of ashes is really much smaller.  :D

Just now, craigt3365 said:

Not sure his wife nor mine would appreciate that!

Wifey can have her own boy punka-wallah  -- some people have been quoting electricity bills that would feed a family !!!  :)

15 minutes ago, Naam said:

we have a winner!

For the price of installation and electricity - you could employ a nice young girl as punka-wallah :)   and she'll bring your beer to you as well :)

One factor often overlooked is the cost of heating in climates which regularly get down to minus-whatever for 6 months of the year.  In Thailand people are lazy and use aircon, but a clever design can keep a house or apartment fresh and cool in the tropics.  Nothing heats a house easily in the short winter days of the frozen north.

51 minutes ago, Naam said:

i  also like to wake up with more money then when i went to bed. unfortunarely this is not the case every day.

You losing your touch ?

I have never understood why the income method is treated as the poor-man's option.  It is by far the easiest way to obtain an extension, needs the least paperwork and makes no demands on an applicants finances.