ericdiam

Just now, ericdiam said:

The reason why AZ has lower % after second shot is that with AZ they had more older people in the test. So that brought it automatically down

Another dangerous point government decided to do is wait 16 weeks for second shot AZ. Totally wrong as the test also found that for both vaccines after first shot only 33% immunity. And only after second it goes up a lot. That why UK just reduced the time between. This results are all for Indian varriant 

22 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Covid: Pfizer and AstraZeneca jabs work against Indian variant - study

 

"The Pfizer and AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccines are highly effective against the variant identified in India after two doses, a study has found.

 

Two jabs of either vaccine give a similar level of protection against symptomatic disease from the Indian variant as they do for the Kent one.

...

The Pfizer vaccine was found to be 88% effective at stopping symptomatic disease from the Indian variant two weeks after the second dose, compared with 93% effectiveness against the Kent variant.

The AstraZeneca jab was 60% effective against the Indian variant, compared with 66% against the Kent variant.

 

(more)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596

 

The Pfizer numbers above look very good. However, I don't know if I'd say the AZ vaccine being 60% effective against the Indian variant two weeks after the second dose as "highly effective."  But, better than 50%, and better than nothing.

 

 

The reason why AZ has lower % after second shot is that with AZ they had more older people in the test. So that brought it automatically down

22 hours ago, EricTh said:

 

Because at that time, Sinovac wasn't recommended for those above 60 years old and he's 66 years old.

 

One shouldn't mix two different technologies because we don't know the side effects and effectiveness of mixing.

 

Astrazeneca and Sinovac both use different technologies.

 

The second shot should be taken 2-3 weeks after first shot so why is he taking it after 2 months?

 

 

For second shot from AZ when they started vaccinating it was set at 4 weeks but then they found out by waiting much longer the immunity was much higher so now they inject in Europe after 12 weeks.

But for the new varriants like the Indian one UK finished full test for AZ and pfizer and found that after 1st shot immnity was only 33% so it is a must to get the 2nd shot so UK reduced the time from 12 to 8 weeks

Now here in Thailand, even after till test results came out, the government  just said to wait 16 weeks for second shot of AZ. Totally insane they act.

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/government-adjusts-timing-of-second-dose-as-hospitals-run-low-on-astrazeneca

Covid: Pfizer and AstraZeneca jabs work against Indian variant - study
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57214596

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Received mine from CW yesterday. Almost 6 weeks.

 

OP do your report by mail. You have time. Easy.

 

 

What all documents are needed to do by post? 

Any cash money? 

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

When is your report due? You might still be able to it by mail.

The date is 29th of May 

Never have done with post

What all documents are needed? 

Copies? Money inside? Or it free? 

Thanks in advance 

2 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Is there a specific reason why you can't submit the report yourself.

You don't need an agent, a friend can submit it on your behalf.

If the office would be in the city sure would go. But it outside bkk. All immigration offices are extremely far away.

Mass gathering is also not a place i want to go to these days. I'm over 60 years old and risk patient

Does someone knows a good cheap agent who can do 90 day reporting fast and well done he in BKK. I'm not over time but tried online on app and on laptop and it not accept.

Looking for good agent at good price here in Bangkok. I live Silom area. Can take bus mrt bts if none around this area

12 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

How about the Pfizer, Sputnik vaccines?? We don;t hear anything about it anymore. Only Sinovac seems to be available..

Yeah not hear anything anymore from those 10-20 million Pfizer, and mass Sputnik order. Only the worst vaccine available in the world they want more and more as the Co owners is 20% by Thai family from CENTRAL. Medipharm the other Chinese vaccine is much much better and high protection. But zero interested in that one. Brown envelopes not thick enough there.

12 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

I get my first jab as foreigner on the 7th how about you?? did you register yet or are the one is too scared and only wait for better ones?

How did you register? Whete? What will you get?

9 hours ago, Jimbone said:

A million a month?? While better than nothing, at that rate all of greater Bangkok will not get the vaccine until next year while the rest of us get to sit back and wait. Not moving fast enough. 

Total bkk population is bit over 10 million. So 70/80% is 7/8 months. Not that bad I would say

On 5/11/2021 at 7:26 PM, the green light said:

It is always a tough  medical decision.   It is an unknow territory because no Vaccines has proven the duration of its immunity and how it will work when mixing type of vaccines. that will be more studies,. 

 

The worst scenario,  there may be  some kind of a booster by the end of year. That would help.

 

There might not be. There will be. Moderna and Pfizer have already a booster and are testing now. Ready by September October and to normally get vaccinated by year end. Also modena is working on a yearly 2 in 1 vaccine for next year. Flu and covid one shot yearly 

10 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

I plan to get vaccinated again, even though I have had 2 jabs of Moderna. Getting a different type of vaccine later this year may both extend my immunity and give me wider protection against future mutations. 

 

Or I might die from the combination. 

Moderna is already prity far with a booster vaccine where the varriants will be in. Will be ready by approx September October. For future they are working on a yearly flu and covid vaccine all in one 

1 minute ago, ericdiam said:

Like me many many Thousands have none of any of these cards  So CANNOT REGISTER

That pink card is from Thai government so yea can register. A foreigners who has resident is registered here. So can 

Thousands have zero cards or any number. So CANNOT 

4 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Stop with the "if you don't work here, you dont live here" montage, and no pink card, no WPa, or I'd card.  Registered successfully with my Pink Non Thai ID card already.  Some of you guys don't get it.  All foreigners residing in Thailand means ALL.

Like me many many Thousands have none of any of these cards  So CANNOT REGISTER

On 4/29/2021 at 3:26 PM, overherebc said:

Link??

Read this tital. Expats. These are registered working foreigners 

In the text they say foreigners who reside in Thailand. Meaning they noted as residents. 

Foreigners who just live here are not. No ID card. No pink card. No work permit 

1 hour ago, placnx said:

Have you remembered that AZ needs 2 jabs per person? It would take 8 months!

And if AZ which most will get once available by Siam in June-July if not more delay the second shot is now 8 to 12 weeks after first.

As then get proven more immunity

19 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

70% of 66,000,000 people = 46,200,000 people /50,000 jabs per day = 924 days /365 days per year = 2.5 years to vaccinate 70% of the population.

 

What about the other 30%?

 

Migrants illegally entering Thailand?

 

Tourists?

 

 

Read the title: 70% of Bangkok population. 10.700.000 / 70% is 7490000/ 50000= 150 days meaning if start June/ July they busy till December easily

Sure forget tourism in 21. Somewhere half 22 maybe 

2 minutes ago, ericdiam said:

From WHO website 

 

It goes higher when wait longer for second shot but The big problem are all new varriants where some are really much less working. I not say it won't help but the risk to get infected is prity high and will get worse as more and more varriants are coming. 

That why I'll do everything to get a one who had high protection from begin as also these are losing %. 

That the reason also why most are working hard on a 3rd booster shot for end this year 

18 hours ago, sungod said:

 

Not sure where you get your figures from, but I will take AZ at 100% effective against severe Covid.

 

https://www.astrazeneca.com/content/astraz/media-centre/press-releases/2021/azd1222-us-phase-iii-primary-analysis-confirms-safety-and-efficacy.html

From WHO website 

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Is the decline exponential? 

No it not. This is 4 conservative day it's going down. If continues like that in following days then I think they start getting it under control. 

The biggest problem of mass spreading now are the field hospitals. Where mass of poz people are packed together asymptomatic but most will have lower immune system. Also many with different varriants so easy to infect others and then they get really ill and need go hospital. Most people in hospitals come from there 

It total wrong way to work. All these should be in self isolation at home and hollowed up

8 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Has anybody seen any very recent up to date details of when the local production of the AZ vaccine will be available for inoculations?

Zero. Siam bioscience keeps extremely quiet. This little Co who has no experience in vaccines and zero in mass production not want come out with any update of the production. The only thing you hear is delaying the date the first will be ready. First it was May now it's July-August. And I won't trust that vaccine at all. DID THEY FOLLOW ALL THE CORRECT MANUFACTORY STEPS???

Real big question with zero answer or could be manipulated one as you cannot say anything bad of a Royal ownership 

18 hours ago, Osthos said:

I wonder if things get desperate, if Thailand would pull and India and refuse to export the vaccines until the population is vaccinated?

 

I'm asking this question because the AZ vaccine has proven, in Europe, to be difficult to manufacture compared to the mRNA ones. Europe has been reporting a big shortfall in AZ vaccines. 

Not at all. Its very easy to make in mass production and very cheap. 

AZ didn't organize all well. In factories to increase production. That was a real big big mess

Then the products to make the vaccines most come from USA. And the white house stopped total export from all these products. Same big problem at the Indian world biggest vaccine factory. They could not manufacture in full capacity because no products. And AZ has even not been approved by FDA and they won't. 

Yesterday the white house lifted the ban on export and also will export to many different countries the 60 million vaccines sleeping in AZ company 

8 hours ago, Antiparovian said:

Easy to resolve the bed shortage problem. Don't admit Covid-19 +ve patients to Hospital who don't actively need treatment. Perhaps enforce home quarantine if possible or have huge Field Quarantine Units.

These huge field hospitals are real mass spreading centers. People are covid poz but no symptoms. But sure many immune system is bit weaker and many many different varriants are there with people packed together. Not real social distancing. Not want even think about bathrooms and toilets. Many getting extra infected from other varriants many getting more ill and need to go hospital. 

Stop all this bul<deleted> and let all asymptomatic people stay home in self quarantine like in most countries happening. 

These are real mass breading grounds