TerraplaneGuy

At which office?

Many people say you also need a signed copy of the owner’s ID and housebook as well. Is that not the case? Also, if you need to show a lease (e.g. for retirement extension) how will it work to just check into a hotel for a night or two to get them to register a TM30? Where will you get a lease for that address?

Is there a stale-date for the screenshot? For example, if you move into a new place and get the landlord to file a TM30 online right away and sign a print of a screenshot - and his ID and house book - can you hold onto it all for six months and then submit it to Immigration for your retirement extension?

I'm on a non-OA retirement extension and planning to spend months at a time in serviced apartment/hotels in different provinces. No other address. My last re-entry card (TM.6) states my address as Serviced Apartment #1. I checked in there and believe they filed online a Form TM.30 re my check-in. Now if I move to another such place in another province (Serviced Apartment #2), they too will file a TM.30 re my check-in there. Questions: 1. If I have to file my 90-day report (which I normally do online) while in SA#2, will I have a problem (e.g. not be able to file online and be forced to go in person) because SA#2's TM30 put a new address for me in the system? I have seen in other threads the answer should be "no" because the TM30 doesn't actually change my registered (permanent) address - that requires me to file a TM27. The TM.30 only changes my "current" address. Is this correct? One complication is that I've seen a post saying a TM30 CAN change registered address since there is a field for both that AND "current" (temporary) address, and I don't know if that is also the case with the on-line TM30 registration system (so that SA#2 might enter their own address as my permanent as well as current address?). 2. Is any of this affected by the change in June 2020, reported in the BKK Post, saying: ""Property owners will no longer be required to report the presence of foreign tenants in their properties as often ... The Immigration Bureau has changed the reporting frequency to only when they arrive. They do not need to file the [TM.30] reports again if the guests leave the premises only temporarily and then return, or when they have multiple-entry visas or re-entry permits."? I wonder what "temporarily" means here; for example, if I leave SA#1, check in at SA#2 for two months and then return to SA#1, will SA#1 NOT file a new TM.30 for me on my return because I was only gone temporarily? If that's the case, my most recentTM.30 would be the one for SA#2 even though I've checked out of there and am back at SA#1.

Hi All, here's a question about Form TM.30 (notification of residence) which is required for a retirement extension in Samui and some other kinds of applications; and related question about residency documents: 1. Normally the landlord registers Form TM.30 (online or in person) but in some Immigration offices the tenant is allowed to sign it and register it in person (since he is "possessor" of the property even if not owner). Has anyone successfully done this in the Samui office? 2. Has anyone done the retirement extension at Samui while staying in a hotel/short-stay accommodation? If so how did you handle the requirement for the "house rental contract and copy of your household book" which are on the Samui office document list?

Thanks that’s helpful. I am hopeful that this annual report is not more onerous than our usual 90 day but will await the official form. It surprises me a bit they would allow someone to qualify initially and then quickly alter their situation - for example, buy a Thai property for the required amount and then sell it a year later, retaining their visa for the full 5 years. As for the “5+5 years”, It sure seems misleading hype to call it a 10-year visa. From the description, it is just a 5 year visa, since you only get a 5-year stamp, you have to prove all the qualifications again to get the “second” 5 years, and no doubt it’s in their discretion whether to extend. Still it may be worthwhile if that annual report proves innocuous.

I looked at the O-X and had trouble seeing an advantage over the regular 1-year O retirement visas, since although the OX is supposed to be for 5 years, extendable, you still have to go to Immigration each year with a bunch of documents, failing which you would not be able to stay. Can you clarify the advantage?

The BOI brochure doesn't say but today's BKK Post article says there will not be the 90 day report requirement, just the annual report. Of course that may not prove true, but I'm not that concerned about the 90-day anyway, the potential landmine is that annual report.

I know there are a couple of threads on the LTR generally but this is a specific issue: Has there been any official word about what the "1-Year Report" to Immigration will require? I've seen the official brochure just published on the Board of Investment website but it doesn't seem to give any detail on this. Clearly we're going to want to know what is entailed because if they end up requiring anything like the extensive documentation currently required for retirement extensions (and if they continue the current practice of allowing local offices to make up their own additional requirements), it will be much less attractive than it could be.

Has anyone done the retirement extension at Samui while staying in a hotel/short-stay accommodation? If so how did you handle the requirement for the "house rental contract and copy of your household book" which are on the Samui office document list?

Is there any reason why, if changing registered address, I would use one or the other of those two forms? Or does it not matter which?

Thanks for the quick reply. So what would change the registered address? I guess if I file a TM27 (change of address) or exit and re-enter the country stating a new address on my TM6? Anything else?

I filed my 90-day report online successfully last month. I'm doubting this is an issue, but to be certain: If I go out of province and stay for a while at a hotel or serviced apartment which files a TM30, will that disrupt my next 90-day online filing from my home address (by registering me at a new address)?

Success! Thanks. I clicked "Forgot Password" and this time the system worked, sent me a log-in link to re-set, which I did, and from there could submit my TM47. Status is now pending ????

Oh I had assumed it was an automatic process that didn't require human input. I wonder what the human element is here? They didn't ask for any ID like passport that would enable them to identify me in their system at this stage.

The site was up late yesterday for at least some time and it's up again now and yet I still haven't received my email, about 24 hours after registering. Now I'm wondering if I should start the registration process again, or possibly click "Forgot Password", but I'm afraid that might tangle up the process if it's still in (very slow) motion. Suggestions?

Thanks, that's right the non-mobile website is what drove me around in circles. The page you sent above finally was back working this morning and I submitted registration, got the message that it had been submitted but have been waiting all day for an email (yes, been watching my junk folder as well) and so far, nothing. How long do you suppose it might take to get the email with password?

Thanks, I'll try that page later. But then the instructions they give in Online Services are wrong. Following them just takes you around in circles as I described above. They don't link to the page you suggest.

I'm trying to register on the new system. It keeps sending me in circles. I get to this page: https://www.immigration.go.th/en/#serviceonline and see the TM47 square, which I click. I then get a page of instructions which say go to www.immigration.go.th (which I already did to get here) then go to the 90 day button (which I just did) and then click the "apply" button - which I see nowhere. See screenshots. Please help, where is the "apply" button??

I don't know what you're referring to. There's nothing at all about medical in my copy of the order. Attaching it.Police order 35-2561 changeof 327-2557 clasue2.22(Eng) 800K-400K rule.pdf

Good for you! If anyone else finds it necessary to write a letter like this, I would suggest mentioning that other Immigration offices allow the bank letter to be up to 7 days old and have published that rule (for example you could include a copy of the Koh Samui or other office rule). And point out that the law itself (Police Order 35/2561) does not even require a bank letter. It does require the B800K balance but it does not say how that has to be demonstrated and it's hard to see a reason why a bank book, updated the date of application or the day before, shouldn't suffice.

Is the Samui office requiring everybody entering the office to have a Covid test? I hear Chaeng Wattana in BKK is requiring an ATK.

There is no rational basis and no basis in the law for them to reject you because of the mismatch. As long as you have the required B800K the exact amount should not matter, and it's obvious that a transaction after the bank letter will create a mismatch - so what? Chaeng Wattana always required me to do a transaction the day of application which inevitably created a mismatch (since my bank letter was always from a previous day) and they were happy. I think if an officer tells you a mismatch is unacceptable you have to insist on speaking to their supervisor and escalate until, hopefully, they back down. It is also possible, as others have hinted, that in some offices they are deliberately creating difficulties in the hope of steering you to an agent or otherwise obtaining a personal benefit, in which case you still have to try to escalate but if they're all in on it you do have a problem.

Their list says the bank letter is good for 7 days. I can't see why a Thursday bank letter would not be a slam dunk. The thing that makes it trickier is the transaction, if it's hard to find an ATM that will update your bank book the same day you apply. I've had that problem, ATM's not working.

Thanks for the report. Two questions: 1. When I went last year I thought I'd have to return to pick it up the next week which is bit of a hassle (I live in Koh Phangan) but they said I could pick it up that afternoon and it was ready. Any chance of that this year? 2. About the bank transaction: did you need to show a recent entry in your bank book to confirm the balance or was the letter enough?