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no thanks, i'll take lower cost of living and coruption over "clean" energy and public healthcare that I can't access.
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1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:Today, I paid my Thai condo HOA fee of 17,000 baht via WISE transfer from a US bank account (rather from my Thai bank account).
I suspect that some here will state that such a transfer is a taxable event.
Yes, it absolutely is a taxable event under the new system.
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3 hours ago, fluffs said:Every 2nd shop in Bangkok and Pattaya is a weed shop. It was never legalised and is a blight on the country. It's being openly smoked in bars and restaurants which have children inside. It's nothing to do with freedom It's all about the money, most of which goes to police and government officials .
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People openly smoke cigs and drink alcohol in bars and restaurants where there are children inside. What is the difference?
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7 hours ago, Dario said:Woaw, already 145 pages for this problem. I'm a Swiss national and after some research it appears that Switzerland has a Double Taxation Agreement with Thailand. Thailand cannot tax us again. Matter resolved.
That isn't how DTA works. If you are a tax resident with assessable income, you are still going to have to file a tax return in thailand. you wil also need to translate and validate swiss documents, so you are going to have to hire an accountant. this can't be a bog standard thai accountant that deals just with thai tax returns.
I'm honestly shocked how financially illiterate everyone here is.
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fewer and fewer places in the world where you can escape the globalists.
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15 minutes ago, huyuli said:
If I didn't transfer any money into Thailand but made monthly withdrawals at the ATM with a foreign debit card, would I be able to avoid local taxes? Thanks for your input.
If you stay more than 180 days a year, no.
You will be required to fill a yax return and pay tax on any money remitted per the DTA agreements with any other tax jurisdiction you also fall under
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holding out hope Thai Elite gets some special rules
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7 hours ago, The Cyclist said:141 pages and 4200 posts in to this thread and this needs reposted
Printed on the very day that the initial announcement was made.
If you are from a Country that has a DTA with Thailand, you will be exempt if that income has already been taxed in your home Country.
Possibly why I wasn't slapped in handcuffs and my gonads wired to a 12 volt battery, and interrogated about TIN's and filing tax returns last Friday, both at the bank and immigration.
No, that isn't how it works. A DTA doesn't make you tac exempt. You still have reporting requirements in 2 places and will need to fill tax returns in Thailand. This means translating documents, hiring an accountant, submitting tax forms every year to RD.
Have you read your specific DTAs? Many of them just specify who has first rights to tax, not exclusive taxation rights. In many DTAs you will pay tax in both countries and rhe country with first rights on tax will provide a credit you can apply to the second country to prevent being taxed on the same income twice. If the rates in the second country are different, you pay the difference. Thaikand has much lower income bands than a lot of other countries, so many people will pay twice in both areas. It all depends on the DTAs but regardless, everyone will have a burden of dealing with more paperwork and beauracracy
Also a lot of people have income that isn't covered by a DTA
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8 hours ago, beammeup said:
She says bank transfers from personal accounts are not taxable? Really?
She is wrong and doesn't know <deleted> all about taxes.
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3 hours ago, tomkenet said:
If you have used the loophole, transferring overseas income the year after, to save tax, it will affect you.
It affects everyone as now all expansion here 180+ will have reporting requirements to the thai tax office. That means hiring an accountant, getting documents translated into thai, more paperwork and hassles, and potentially more tax liability.
Nobody is safe from this
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3 hours ago, Berkshire said:
Perhaps this has been mentioned, but what if one has a foreign bank account and decides to bring money into Thailand by ATM. How would the Thai gov tax THAT? This is not a convenient way to bring in money, but certainly an option. As a disclaimer, all of my income (mostly pension) goes to my US bank account and I wire it over when needed.
It is a remittance and would be assessable income. Transferring money or withdrawing from ATM is essentially the same here.
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the current system is fine. they made weed legal and the world didn't fall apart.
the less government involved the better.
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the competition is what caused thailand to shoot up in the rankings for quality fiber. this is going to stagnate the market with a duopoly forming between AIS vs True
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so worldwide taxation, no more pot, and chinese police patrolling soi cowboy
this new government is absolute <deleted>e and i'm surely missing Prayut and the old boys club now
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a global taxation like the US would be even worse than what is being proposed.
thailand had a good system already and its one of the reasons why thailand has a lot of wealthy expats and foreign investment. all of the wealthy expats are gone if they are going to be taxed on worldwide income (me included)
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global taxation like the united states? thats even worse....
then i'm 100% gone from thailand. <deleted> that
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holding out hope that Thai Elite will be excluded and given preferential treatment like the LTR visas
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19 minutes ago, jaideedave said:
In my case my pensions total about 70k/ month.My tax free amount is around 400k/year.(400 div by 12) =33k transferred into my bank acct and 37k in cash from an ATM for living expenses.There's my 70k. That just might work.
withdrawing cash from ATM from an overseas bank while in Thailand is still a remittance and liable for tax.
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they did a great job with sukhumvit sidewalk. so many bitter negative old <deleted> on this forum
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So from all of this, my take away for my situation is to simply remit less money into Thailand and pay tax on what I remit. I had planned to make some more investments here but I'll be parking that money abroad and investing outside of Thailand instead. I'll also consider any large purchases or plans domestically as well if it will cost me an additional 30% to do it locally. I travel abroad frequently, so I'll do my major shopping in other countries and things like elective surgury for LASIK etc will just be done elsewhere.
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On 10/17/2023 at 9:57 AM, proton said:Took them years to get the 90 day reporting app to work, on and off. There will be enormous problems with this, people not being able to register for various reasons, not getting the handout/bribe, not being able to spend it where they want, cashing it in for a proportion of it from bent vendors etc, amusing times ahead.
not just the truckers. they also shut down bank accounts for those who donated money to the protest.
i agree, the future is <deleted> and the idiots will sell their own future away for 10,000 thb and be none the wiser.
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taxation is theft
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I prefer the 2am closing time. I'll tell you why
1. It encourages people to get started and go out earlier. It's easy to go from dinner to party. In the west, so many young people stay home until midnight to pregame as "it's dead until midnjght"
2. A good short time is better than a long ebb/flow. I like knowing 10pm to 2am is going to be a solid party block and what I'm in for. It's only on rare occasions I want to party until the sun comes up as it <deleted> up your next day
3. If everything shuts at 2am, it gets the girls out of the bars and into your bedroom faster
Less dancing, more <deleted>
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It's got nothing to do with security, it's a mental health issue.
Honestly, freedom means you also need to accept some risks and <deleted>ty things go happen. You can't solve this by turning into a police state. People still get attacked and killed in prisons.
Thailand Plans Year-End Ban on Recreational Cannabis
in Thailand News
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its been no rules weed for over a year and everything is fine. the world didnt explode. maybe it isnt so bad?