Tippaporn

No it isn't possible. You must apply to GRO, as stated by a previous post. puchooay is correct.

I can assuire you that whatever you think you did or didnt need that you are completely wrong There are literally 10000's worldwide who will sadly testify to your spurious comment Not withstanding that by writing that you seriously annoy people who have been traumatised over the pre July 1st 2006 date even if it was their own lack of knowledge (mine) that caused the grief I would happily write a cheque for £25,000 this afternoon to obtain that passport if only your statement was accurate Out..... Jai yen yen. He's accurate. Passport type is: Born or adopted after 1 July 2006 (not naturalised or registered) Certificate of registration/ naturalisation: Not required Parents’ documents (See table B if you were born or adopted in the UK) (Born on or after 1 January 1983): full birth certificates (showing both the child’s and parents’ details) or certificates of registration or naturalisation; and their marriage certificate (this does not apply for those born or adopted on or after 1 July 2006 or same-sex adoptions). Grandparents’ documents (See table E): We may need more information for the following For First Time Applicants: Neither appears to apply in our case. Here's the UK guidance leaflet and see if you disagree. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1093079/OS_Guidance_G2_07.22.pdf

From the "Applying for a passport from outside the UK - Supporting Documents" guidance leaflet provided by Mac Mickmanus the only requirement of the father is to provide his birth certificate. So you are correct. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1093079/OS_Guidance_G2_07.22.pdf

They eliminated wedlock as a condition of handing down citizenship to children in 2006.

Yes, thank you. I have the site up and am contacting a dear friend in the UK as it might be an easier task from in country. https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate

Thanks for the lead. Before I submit an application I will contact them to ensure everything is in proper order. I might be wrong but I believe that there are no refunds on applications. Not that the fee is substantial but no sense in wasting money.

The mum confirmed today that she does not have a copy of the father's birth certificate. He had told her that he lost his original and never applied for a duplicate. Which may explain his reluctance to follow through on obtaining a UK passport for his daughter. So this leaves me to enquire about his present status as to deceased or not, if that's at all necessary. But it may provide needed information that would be helpful in acquiring a copy of his birth certificate. I guess I should start digging here first. Again, if anyone knows where to source this information it would be greatly appreciated.

In our case the father was born in the UK and descends from long British lineage. He's been an expat for in Thailand for 35 years without a single return trip the UK. So he's told me. I think the question of the father handing down automatic British citizenship to his daughter is, in our case, and according to the UK.gov website, answered.

Most encouraging news!! Thanks!

Many thanks, Mac Mickmanus. I'm up quite late tonight and this looks like it's going to take more than a few cups of coffee tomorrow morning to sort out. And again, thanks for your and everyone else's help thus far. I'm sure I'll have more to post after I gather all available information tomorrow.

I believe . . . at least at this juncture of understanding . . . that she needs only to complete this attached form: OS_Form_010.pdf

Yes. That is information that we do have. Again, I'll have to check with the mum tomorrow as to whether or not she has a copy of his birth certificate. Hopefully she does.

The above seems to me to apply to Brits who are citizens by descent. Above that it states: You were born on or after 1 July 200You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born outside the UK and all of the following apply: you were born on or after 1 July 2006 your mother or father was a British citizen when you were born your British parent could pass on their citizenship to you She certainly meets those qualifications.

I'm not opining on the cause of the decline in numbers but just replying to a poster who seems to see no value in Christian teachings, some of which I consider to be eternal truths. I, personally, would not like to experience a Christian revival. But to discard it with nothing (better) as a replacement is not the way to go either, IMHO.

Because a Godless society is what we're witnessing. I'm not religious but I would agree that religion does at least provide important values.

Well, I'm glad to hear confirmation that the girl does have automatic citizenship given she was born after 2006. That was how I interpreted it to be . . . that she need not apply for citizenship as she already has it but virtue of her father. If it's only a matter then to gather all of the required documentation then I think that can be done.

After 10 years of beseeching it seems obvious he is, for whatever reason, unwilling. Hopefully I can find enough "specialist advice" here. I see no reason why the common man cannot accomplish what a lawyer can. At least I'll attempt to do so.

400,000 baht is a non-starter, LOL. She does not have that kind of money. The mum's child was also born out of wedlock. Considering the 2006 rules change that at least would appear to be in her favour. I would think that a provision must exist for an avenue in the case of the father being deceased, for instance.

So much seems to be conditional and the term "might" is used extensively. It's difficult to ascertain definitively whether or not she's automatically a UK citizen given her circumstances. The closest I could come to a definitive answer was found here: You were born on or after 1 July 200You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born outside the UK and all of the following apply: you were born on or after 1 July 2006 your mother or father was a British citizen when you were born your British parent could pass on their citizenship to you https://www.gov.uk/apply-citizenship-british-parent/born-on-or-after-1-july-2006

The girl was born in Thailand. I doubt the father registered her at the UK embassy. The mum has been trying to get him to obtain a passport for his daughter for 10 years without success. I do have information on the father but have not looked at it in a few years as I left it up to the father to do his fatherly duty. I'll revisit what information is available. Thanks.

My thoughts exactly. I have read that the father is not needed for a UK passport application on behalf of his child. I have to say, too, that the UK.gov site is horrendous to navigate and decipher. It would be much more helpful to allow someone to enter information into a site that's designed to then whittle down what's applicable given the situation. If I can apply for the UK passport on her behalf I will certainly do that.

The mum did recently contact a Thai lawyer who works both in the UK and Thailand but he wants 400,000 baht - the UK price, not the Thai price - for his services. Outrageous. I would think that this task involves mere paperwork and nothing else.

If the case is that he's deceased would it be possible to obtain from the relevant UK authority? I'll have to check, too, with the mum to see if she might have a copy of it if he declared her as his own at her birth.

I'm attempting to help a Thai woman obtain a UK passport for her child who was fathered by a Brit with other than by decent status. The child was born in 2012. From my understanding she (the child) has automatic UK citizenship, in which applying for a passport would necessitate only the required information proving her to be a UK citizen. Her father has put this off for 10 years and his whereabouts are now unknown. His Thai phone is no longer in service and his business email comes up as "no longer a service provider." For all we know he could have passed as he was 61 when his daughter was born. He has had medical issues for some time. Perhaps, too, he returned to the UK in order to access medical services there? Anyone here have experience with this? Since I'm an English speaker I'm just trying to help this girl on her behalf. Any help would be appreciated.

Okay, you can't produce any information about any investigation allegedly done by Barr & the DOJ. You just take their word for it. But any real documented evidence of election fraud gets dismissed. Makes sense only if you goal seek but not if the objective is to know the truth.