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English blues guitarist Jo Ann Kelly with I Feel So Good & Ain't Seen No Whisky both recorded sometime in the 60's. Off of the 2004 Blues Anytime Vol.1 - An Anthology Of British Blues CD.

T.S. McPhee with his '66 single Someone To Love Me.

Search for father's birth certificate: 20 minutes Copy of father's birth certificate from the GRO: £11 Child passport (including courier fee): £88.51 Shyster "expert" lawyer fee: £9,461

Thanks for pointing out the difference. I've already had the thought that any document we send must be certified, notarised, or however so that it represents a legal document. I'll ensure that her birth certificate is indeed a legal copy. I assume that the father's birth certificate which I'm ordering from the GRO will be a valid legal document given the GRO is a government entity.

Following is all that is needed to obtain the girl's passport: 1. 2 recent identical photos. Though it's not stated specifically I assume passport photos, which is what we'll send. 2. Full color copies of every page of her Thai passport, including blank pages. 3. Full color photo copy of Thai identity card. 4. Certified document from school to prove her current address. 5. Father's birth certificate. 6. Mum's birth certificate. 7. Natalie's birth certificate. Let's see what happens.

Just watched this 1956 French crime/murder/suspense/thriller. Have to read the subtitles but well worth the watch. Great acting and and an excellent plot. Voici Le Temps Des Assassins (Now Is The Killer's Hour) [Deadlier Than The Male] (1956)

And there is what should be ironclad proof. Hospitals wouldn't put anyone's name on a birth certificate. Very difficult to falsify the match then.

So far so good. The return of the database gave a middle initial of J. The database truncates all middle names to single letters. But I just checked the girl's birth certificate and his age confirms the birth year to be correct and his middle name is . . . James. Also, I know for certain he's not Welch, Northern Irish or a Scot. His birthplace is listed as Eversham, Worcestershire. Another match. And a secondary name search from another UK database came up with the exact same results, minus the mother's maiden name. https://www.findmypast.co.uk/

My mate in the UK just provided me with the digital search engine for the GRO. This site provides all of the necessary information for one to order it up on the GRO website. https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl Only one match for the girl's father appears given a DoB range between 1950 and 1952 in all of England and Wales. And the year is a match . . . 1951. Am I fantastically lucky? If searching the database for DoD the database only includes deaths through 1998.

No it isn't possible. You must apply to GRO, as stated by a previous post. puchooay is correct.

I can assuire you that whatever you think you did or didnt need that you are completely wrong There are literally 10000's worldwide who will sadly testify to your spurious comment Not withstanding that by writing that you seriously annoy people who have been traumatised over the pre July 1st 2006 date even if it was their own lack of knowledge (mine) that caused the grief I would happily write a cheque for £25,000 this afternoon to obtain that passport if only your statement was accurate Out..... Jai yen yen. He's accurate. Passport type is: Born or adopted after 1 July 2006 (not naturalised or registered) Certificate of registration/ naturalisation: Not required Parents’ documents (See table B if you were born or adopted in the UK) (Born on or after 1 January 1983): full birth certificates (showing both the child’s and parents’ details) or certificates of registration or naturalisation; and their marriage certificate (this does not apply for those born or adopted on or after 1 July 2006 or same-sex adoptions). Grandparents’ documents (See table E): We may need more information for the following For First Time Applicants: Neither appears to apply in our case. Here's the UK guidance leaflet and see if you disagree. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1093079/OS_Guidance_G2_07.22.pdf

From the "Applying for a passport from outside the UK - Supporting Documents" guidance leaflet provided by Mac Mickmanus the only requirement of the father is to provide his birth certificate. So you are correct. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1093079/OS_Guidance_G2_07.22.pdf

They eliminated wedlock as a condition of handing down citizenship to children in 2006.

Yes, thank you. I have the site up and am contacting a dear friend in the UK as it might be an easier task from in country. https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate

Thanks for the lead. Before I submit an application I will contact them to ensure everything is in proper order. I might be wrong but I believe that there are no refunds on applications. Not that the fee is substantial but no sense in wasting money.

The mum confirmed today that she does not have a copy of the father's birth certificate. He had told her that he lost his original and never applied for a duplicate. Which may explain his reluctance to follow through on obtaining a UK passport for his daughter. So this leaves me to enquire about his present status as to deceased or not, if that's at all necessary. But it may provide needed information that would be helpful in acquiring a copy of his birth certificate. I guess I should start digging here first. Again, if anyone knows where to source this information it would be greatly appreciated.

In our case the father was born in the UK and descends from long British lineage. He's been an expat for in Thailand for 35 years without a single return trip the UK. So he's told me. I think the question of the father handing down automatic British citizenship to his daughter is, in our case, and according to the UK.gov website, answered.

Most encouraging news!! Thanks!

Many thanks, Mac Mickmanus. I'm up quite late tonight and this looks like it's going to take more than a few cups of coffee tomorrow morning to sort out. And again, thanks for your and everyone else's help thus far. I'm sure I'll have more to post after I gather all available information tomorrow.

I believe . . . at least at this juncture of understanding . . . that she needs only to complete this attached form: OS_Form_010.pdf

Yes. That is information that we do have. Again, I'll have to check with the mum tomorrow as to whether or not she has a copy of his birth certificate. Hopefully she does.

The above seems to me to apply to Brits who are citizens by descent. Above that it states: You were born on or after 1 July 200You’re automatically a British citizen if you were born outside the UK and all of the following apply: you were born on or after 1 July 2006 your mother or father was a British citizen when you were born your British parent could pass on their citizenship to you She certainly meets those qualifications.

I'm not opining on the cause of the decline in numbers but just replying to a poster who seems to see no value in Christian teachings, some of which I consider to be eternal truths. I, personally, would not like to experience a Christian revival. But to discard it with nothing (better) as a replacement is not the way to go either, IMHO.

Because a Godless society is what we're witnessing. I'm not religious but I would agree that religion does at least provide important values.

Well, I'm glad to hear confirmation that the girl does have automatic citizenship given she was born after 2006. That was how I interpreted it to be . . . that she need not apply for citizenship as she already has it but virtue of her father. If it's only a matter then to gather all of the required documentation then I think that can be done.