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I've been living there for six years. I rent a house and hardly see another foreigner. Have no problems with the neighbours. My area seems pretty safe. Never had any security problems. 3BB fibre is fast enough. Close enough top everything. 

A good report on the 2011 flood and some video here. Might be a good opportunity for THAI to make some insurance claims and get rid of some aircraft ???? 

https://photo-journ.com/2011/2011-thailand-flood-could-be-more-destructive-than-asian-financial-crisis/

 

It would probably improve the level of discussion if people actually read the story. 

an independent report commissioned by the defence outlined a litany of miscarriages of justice and rivalries between NGOs that led to his arrest.

"Thailand’s monthly automotive production exceeded 100,000 units for the first time in August"

So how many did they build per month when they produced 2.45 million units in 2012?

 

As pointed out in the story 

"the Thai side doesn’t need workers... approximately 120,000 Cambodian migrant workers had returned from Thailand" out of a migrant workforce pre-pandemic of more than 1.2 million. 

I just read this the other day about the company that makes Mercedes in Thailand. It's seven years old but they were complaining then about not getting qualified staff and the education system failing -- producing too many degree holders and not enough diploma graduates. https://photo-journ.com/2013/thailands-education-system-hampering-auto-manufacturing-industrys-growth/

(Some nice photos from inside the factory from back then too here https://photo-journ.com/2013/inside-the-factory-building-thailands-mercedes-benzs-photo-special/ )

Some interesting figures from the first link: 

More than 55 per cent of the labour force in the Thailand automotive industry consists of workers who completed Mattayom 6 (year 12) or less, about 35 per cent have vocational or higher vocational education skills while those with tertiary qualifications make up about 10 per cent.

This is the wrong mix. About 15 per cent of the Thailand automotive industry should be tertiary qualified engineers and such, and at least 55 per cent should be skilled technicians. Lower-educated laborers should make up the rest, with the lowest-skilled workers being replaced by automation systems and re-trained to high skill levels.

In 2012 when the country’s auto-makers churned out a record 2.4 million vehicles, the industry employed about 650,000 workers, with a labour productivity rate of about 3.69 vehicles per employee.

The industry is aiming for an 8 per cent rise in productivity every year. But if productivity can be raised by 10 per cent per annum, then the labour-productivity rate will rise to about four vehicles per worker per annum.

With this improved productivity rate, the industry may require fewer than 200,000 more employees over the next five years to reach its target of producing three million vehicles per year.

The days of Thailand being the go-to place for everyone else in the region looking for work may be gone. Thais are going to have to adapt or go hungry. I would hope the government push is to force industry to hire and train Thais and that market forces will see lower end salaries rise as a result. 

 

I want to know the name of his dealer

7 hours ago, Logosone said:

So Sweden among the most successful countries in containing Covid19, now considered for special visas.

 

No masks, no lockdown. 

 

How did the Swedes do it? Oh that's right, no masks, no lockdown.

13th in the world for deaths per million population. 580. Many, many times that of similar sized, but considerably poorer countries
26th in the world for total deaths 5,865

Awesome role model. 

When in Rome do as... Should have just stayed with the local "specialties" 

Rat lok lak and Ratoshake 

 

Not going to happen. 

If you're not of high economic value to Thailand you won't get on a flight, Elite Card or not. 

Thais first, BOI registered company work permits, investors, work permit holders and so on. 

The global entertainment industry is going to be gutted. I'm not aware of any country supporting its performing artists. In several countries they don't qualify for pandemic relief because they are self employed. Governments everywhere need to make sure that every member of society is supported.

It should be compulsory, as it is in the Philippines. That's how they're able to afford to keep running so many repatriation flights and even reach out and help their citizens injured in Beirut and fly home the dead COVID-19 OFW for burial, etc. But you're not going to get much for Bt500 unless there's a lot of members and a skinny administration. 

This is the same as the situation flying to Cambodia. 

One news site called it a gamble and it is. But neither country care. The foreigners help ensure sufficient capacity for flights to keep operating and that means their citizens can come home. Foreigners pay for quarantining. It's now a profit centre. IMO anyone who gets on one of those flights needs to be prepared for a dose of virus. They're just flying petri dishes. There's not a good enough reason for me to get on one. 

 

16 hours ago, petermik said:

Another irresponsible comment from a government minister...tell that to the folk who rely on tourists for a living....there will be no foreign tourists even contemplating coming if they will be put in quarantine...

Foreign tourism is dead. Escorted groups with an itinerary and everyone tested on arrival and departure. Its the new normal for countries that want to keep the virus out. It will be the same for business groups also. It aint gonna get any better than that. Especially while so many countries have flaring clusters.

11 hours ago, Boomer6969 said:

You base your assertion on CFR (Case Fatality Rate) which is not representative of the actual risk we are exposed to. Of relevance is the IFR (Infection Fatality Rate = Number people who succumbed/ Number of people infected), which most researchers estimate at 0.6%/0.7%. I say estimate because we still don't have solid figures on the number of asymptomatic COVID carriers.

But I can forgive you since you are supposed to be Thai, hence less anal about numbers than us Farang. For instance Thais understand that the official zero domestic COVID cases means "not many, but still enough to wear masks." while we Farang understand zero as "dead centre between +infinity and -infinity". 

"The IFR (Infection Fatality Rate = Number people who succumbed/ Number of people infected), which most researchers estimate at 0.6%/0.7%".

Is only valid after the last case is complete given that the time from infection until time of death can be +20, +30 +40 days or more. It also varies greatly by region. 

A Spanish study of 60,000 cases earlier this year found an IFR of  1.1%

The Meyerowitz-Katz Merone study found 0.49–1.01% (0.75%)

and the Grewelle & De Leo study found 0.77–1.38% (1.04)

The only accurate measure while there are active cases is to base it on completed cases (number of discharged + number of dead). Up until midnight GMT July 12 it was 7.00%. Based on all infections - of which a certain percentage will die -- it was  4.38%. 

Among the 10 Asean member countries it was 4.80% and 2.81%

A much better measure is deaths per million population. 

The full Spanish study is here

https://www.ciencia.gob.es/stfls/MICINN/Ministerio/FICHEROS/ENECOVID_Informe_preliminar_cierre_primera_ronda_13Mayo2020.pdf

7 minutes ago, Krataiboy said:

Links?

Google is your friend. Try typing outside of Thaivisa for your news

it's called common sense. Air travel is just about finished. Again, try looking outside of Thaivisa. 

1 hour ago, mommysboy said:

In general, we can say a significant portion of a given population already have immunity or seem impervious to the virus right from the get go- perhaps 20-60% depending on the virus.  So, imo the hypothesis has some merit.  When it comes to covid 19 of course we simply don't know, and that's why we shouldn't also be so dogmatic in our opposite views.

Total, absolute Fake News. No one has an immunity to a coronavirus. Stop talking about stuff that you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

6 hours ago, 2long said:

If there's a dead pensioner behind the pixelisation, and let's face it she won't be running off, then why can't we/they show a bit more respect and less indifference, especially while the photo is being taken!?

Awesome. Lets have some censorship and staged photos in the world.  She's dead. She couldn't care. 

$41 each. Not going to go very far even in Cambodia

There's a particular type of oil that should be used in the larger foggers, I forget the type now. As it is fairly expensive many people use diesel. It's effective and cheaper, though it leaves a mess on the floor when used inside. I used to use a third generation pyrethrin. The main warning was not to dispose of the container near a water source. 

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

The overseas Thai embassies and consulates are already accepting applications from foreigners with Thai spouses to re-enter Thailand with exactly the same criteria as WP holders.

Except they don't get the same priority as WP holders. Patients requiring life-saving medical treatment in their home country #1, BOI WP holders #2. 

Cambodia's model would work if it was applied to their own nationals as well as other travelers, but for now it's a game of Russian Roulette. one infected Khmer who wasn't tested before boarding outs 104 people in quarantine.
 

Once you've been tested once though you shouldn't need to be tested again landing in a second country if everyone followed the same protocols and they got of their bums and came up with an easily carried and easily verified pass card for the region like they are talking about here https://aecnewstoday.com/2020/cambodia-covid-19-travel-model-provides-path-for-clmvt-recovery/
 

Seems to make sense so it probably won't happen. 

42 minutes ago, davidstipek said:

Being Tested before you depart to come here, proves nothing. Unless you were tested, quarantined... kept in isolation until confined to plane. It just proves at "One" time you were Covid-19 free. Does not Certify you Boarded Flight in same status!

Example:

You are tested at Doctors office and confirmed you did not have the Clap. You Board the flight and during the 22+ HRS to complete your flight to Thailand. You seemed lucky enough to get a <BJ> later sex in the rear of plane.

You arrive in Thailand, met by your wife (you bypassed testing as you showed certificate you had test done in America. A week later your wife takes you to the Hospital (she has the Clap now) to get tested, it is confirmed you are infected also. They contact Airlines to get Stewardess tested, she also tests Positive. (This confirms your wife was not screwing around while you were gone.)

Point in case if you were tested upon arrival, a mess, probably a Divorce would not be played out, you marriage might have been saved. Yes no one died, But look at the mess you caused by not being tested and quarantined!

The Cambodia model is the most secure, I think, apart from the exemption for Khmer to be tested prior to boarding. 

https://aecnewstoday.com/2020/international-travel-in-the-age-of-covid-19-cambodia-leads-the-world-with-user-pays-system/ 

 

On 6/15/2020 at 3:56 PM, Somtamnication said:

Let me guess: Married farangs with work permits only.

Close. Married farangs with work permits, health insurance, and underlying chronic medical conditions ????