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16 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

He who laughs last? 

Trump's soaring popularity insures a crushing landslide in the fall. Heh... 

The issue is not popularity. The issue is did the man break the law? Did he use the resources of the US to further his own interests. 

His cult followers don't care but people who believe in the rule of law see possible criminal behavior that needs to be investigated. 

trumps cult followers engage in pure hypocrisy when they claim to be conservative then say they don't care that their dear leader has broken the law...strange. 

9 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

With all of Trump's personal flaws folks will still pick him over the wacked out Dems. The Dem candidates who I don't have problems with won't make the cut. 

Maybe folks will pick trump. 1 year from now we will know. 

He is sleaze and unfit to be president. You don't dispute that you just think it is ok. 

Democracy can not survive when people choose loyalty to trump over loyalty to the United States and the rule of law. 

There are real problems in the US that need to be addressed. Healthcare..education..infrastructure. More tax cuts for the wealthy are the only solutions I hear from trump. I read an interview where the senator from kentucky said the US needs to cut back on social security and medicare because of the deficits, which the republicans made larger. Maybe people will vote their pocketbooks when they realize social security is in danger with people like mcconnel in power. 

Sad. 

59 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

 

 

The left call Trump a mother f’er and his daughter a feckless c-unt then turn around and accuse him of not sounding stately enough.
 

 

So the head pussy grabber does not sound stately to you but that is OK because someone  insulted him? He is supposed to be the president of the US and be presidential. 

I would be ashamed if my child acted like the current president of the USA. His personal behavior is a disgrace. If you would condone that kind of behavior from your own child I would question your parenting skills and judgment..but of course you would not allow that from your own child..Would you? 

58 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

Only people on the left believe that, much the same way that they think science is on there side or that they’re really smart because they got a degree. 

 

As far as “The head pussy grabber...”, do you have you any real evidence that Trump goes around grabbing pussies uninvited?

 

Or were you talking about Bill Clinton? Remember him? The guy ABC killed the Epstein story to protect? 

 

The left call Trump a mother f’er and his daughter a feckless c-unt then turn around and accuse him of not sounding stately enough.
 

 

Donny is on tape telling us about his pussy grabbing exploits 

Science is on no side. It offers evidence. Many conservatives don't like the idea of fact based thinking so they are hostile to science. 

Sadly the cult leader trump verbally assaults people but was silent  aboutright-wing violence at the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville. The conservatives take their cue from the head racist. Hmm..I guess you have not heard about his racist past? Stop watching fox news..he mocks and belittles based on racial stereotypes. Oh and one of the first public mentions of the head pussy grabber was when he was sued for racial discrimination. 

Yep..head racist. 

19 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

The problem for the Democrat party is in your last sentence. They have embraced the kook left fringe. They are the party of the Green New Deal, Jew hatred (the Squad) and other insanity that will be a problem for them in 2020. But not to worry: some of the left's best and brightest tell me Trump will be impeached and thrown out of office.

You have it wrong. The republican party is the party tacitly supporting racist hate groups. 

The President himself is a noted racist and tacit supporter of conservative hate groups.

2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

So you prefer certain industries be in shackles. Wow, that's quite revealing.

Wow..so you prefer that certain industries have no controls so they can pollute fore example and use their economic power to the benefit of their shareholder and the detriment of society. 

9 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

An enquiring mind and some basic research will confirm that, contrary to what we are constantly assured by the tame mass media, the science of anthropogenic global warming is anything but "settled".

 

To counter this truly inconvenient truth, the official climate change narrative is beng treated more like a religion than a scientific theory - with unpleasant consequences for heretics and apostates within and outside the scientific community.

 

There has even been a call for deniers and skeptics to be prosecuted as a danger to the rest of humanity.

 

One doesn't need a science degree to know that when people have to be browbeaten and bullied into believing something, it is probably wrong.

 

The science is settled and is shows there is a clear relationship between CO2 and climate change. 

One does need a science degree to understand the underlying science. 

The anti science funding by big corporations has paid off and the anti science crazies attack the clear evidence of human induced climate change. 

13 hours ago, Kelsall said:

Yawn.  Sorry, yet another nothing burger.  The Senate leaders have already said they will throw this "impeachment" out quickly should it arrive based on this absurd, flawed process. 

You can not defend the idiot trump or his actions so you attack the process. That is very revealing. 

I think most conservatives know he is a lying fraud. But they don't care because you think he is hurting liberals so that is OK.  

The attitude of many conservatives undermines democracy. 

7 hours ago, pmarlin said:

By the way that officer took an oath to obey the president.

 

So now he is a looked at as disloyal by many who served or have served in the US Military.

 Can't believe how many people don't understand the function of the President and the authority he has.

The oath is to the constitution - the rule of law.

Maybe your loyalties lie with trump - the banana republic model - making america like a banana republic should be his slogan. 

You have your loyalties to the person and not the country - the classic definition of the cult of personality. 

The function of the president is to protect and defend the constitution - trump is using taxpayer money to further his own personal and political interests. 

40 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Close but not exactly.

Impeachable offenses are not the same thing as crimes.

Impeaching a president is not a criminal process.

Conviction only means removal from office, not criminal prosecution. 

Sure..I agree. Impeachment is a political process - not a criminal process. 

So did trump commit an impeachable offense? and or Did he commit a crime?

Holding up previously authorized foreign aid to a foreign power so they will  investigates a political rival MIGHT be a violation of campaign finance laws - a crime. Apparently a sitting president can not be indicted - trump claims he can not even be INVESTIGATED for ANY crimes - current or past - while he is in office. 

Undermining  national security for political gain may or may not be a crime - but maybe is an impeachable offense. 

The trump loyalists IMHO are abandoning the rule of law and possibly national security in filial loyalty to the leader of the orange cult of personality. 

Congress has a DUTY to oversee the executive branch of the USA government. trump supporters seem to think that  congress doing their duty is some sort of crime. 

4 minutes ago, khaowong1 said:

Thanks riclag, for just about the only rational voice in this post.  I'm sure you noticed as did I, that in all this screaming from the Democrats about the President talking to the President of Ukraine, no one even bats an eye that Hunter Biden was given a job paying $50,000 a month there for something he has no idea or experience about, which by the way, started back in 2016 when J. Biden was Vice President.  I personally think the head Democrats are all afraid that if President Trump stays in office, he's going to un-mask and bring to the light, all the nefarious things they have done during Obama's tenure. 

Nice spin and diversion.  What about what about.... 

The issue is trump. Did trump commit a crime. Maybe yes maybe no. 

But the allegations are serious and there are many people who were concerned about trump's behavior  - it may have been illegal and it possibly undermined national security. 

Those need to be investigated...that is the constitutional DUTY of congress. 

Stick to the issue  Did trump commit a crime? 

9 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Yep. I'm not arguing against that. I would also add to that both parties are able to question witnesses. That's due process. It's also the point I made. It was someone else who alluded to due process beginning with the trial. That is obviously not true.

You are engaging in misdirection. 

The issue is that more evidence is showing the orange cult leader engaged in possibly illegal activities. 

If he did engage in illegal activities then he should be impeached by the house, convicted by the senate, arrested and tried in criminal court.  

The reality is that followers of the cult of the orange personality are IMHO unburdened by the thought process and will defend trump no matter the evidence. It is sad that the rule of law - the foundation of the USA and most democracies - means so little to current republicans. 

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

Due process isn't a talking point. It's the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution:

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment

Your spin on it is pure fox news propaganda. 

As pointed out congress is evidence gathering - like a grand jury or police interview. 

But nice attempt at spin. 

2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Shouldn't there be due process first?

Ah...sounds like a fox news talking point. 

You can not defend the orange cult leader so you attack the legal process.