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19 hours ago, Joe Mcseismic said:

If the seasoning rules have been breached at any time, for what ever reason, your original visa will be cancelled.

What does one have to do when their original visa is cancelled?  Head from immigration immediately to the airport?

20 hours ago, TigerandDog said:

Someone asked him about the 3 months seasoning after the extension. I asked that question today. CM Immigration DO NOT require us to return in 3 months. They WILL check that the seasoning has been met when applying for the next extension.

How much pre-application seasoning did you have?  The new rule says only two months are required, which is what I have. 

7 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

This extra step should save the wait for people not present

I don't understand this.  Who wouldn't be present?  

1 minute ago, mtls2005 said:

Yes, agent-escorted individuals seem to jump the queue and can throw off the dwell times, but then they also get approved in minutes vs. us unwashed masses who have to run the three or four level management gauntlet, so it might actually make things better.

I thought the purpose of an agent was to go on your behalf, thus freeing you of the trip entirely?  If there is an agent service that goes along with you and does hand-holding, I might be interested in that too if it means one hour instead of six.

That's unfortunate. Was it very crowded?

I was there a few weeks ago to do a TM30 and after I completed that, I went over to the L desk where they do retirement extensions to get the handout about the new money seasoning rules (and to double check that they were not still following the old rule).  It did not seem to be that hectic.

2 minutes ago, elviajero said:

I've heard of it being done that late, but I wouldn't risk it. It would be better to leave and re-enter with a new visa.

 

Probably cheaper than paying 30 days of overstay fines, too.

Thanks.  I am in this position (have 2 months of seasoning) but my immigration office is Chaengwatana so I don't see it being a problem since I know they run a tight ship there.  I was just wondering about those unfortunate folks in the outer provinces.

Provided they pay the daily overstay fine, of course.

I'm thinking about these reports we're hearing about some offices not knowing about the new two-month rule for seasoning of funds.  

Suppose a retiree went in with his bank statement, properly seasoned for two months at 800K but the immigration officer stubbornly insisted it had to be three months.  Could the retiree go home, overstay his visa by another month and then go back and qualify for the extension?  Or would they refuse the extension and deport the applicant because of the one month of overstay?

Just now, elviajero said:

If the funds are deposited on March 22nd they will have been in the account for two calendar months on May 21st; which means the first day you can apply for the extension is May 22nd.

That's what I'm counting on.  

I went today to do my TM30 and everything went smoothly.  At least that's one less thing I'll have to worry about next month.

Get in there sharpish May 23rd.

Ugh - sinking feeling.  I don't know how I missed that.

Let's say that, in the (hopefully unlikely) event that when I go on May 22nd and if it turns out that I am missing some crucial document and I have to come back, I could get some kind of short-term extension to give me a few days to get what I need?  I think I have everything already prepared now, but you never know, and the thought of applying on the 22nd when my current extension expires on the 24th is unnerving.

I have mentioned in previous discussions how I topped-up my bank balance two months prior to my current extension's expiration date instead of three months because of the new rule.  My current extension expires on May 24th so I made sure to top-up to 800K on March 22nd, beating the two-month seasoning requirement by two days.

However I just noticed that the policy says:

(4) Prior to the filing date for no less than 2 months, and after permission is granted for no less than 3 months, the applicant must have deposited...

Prior to the filing date. Not prior to the date my extension expires.  I was planning to go to CW tomorrow, which would make my filing date April 9.  A literal reading of the above rule means I should have had the account topped-up February 9th at the latest in order to be able to apply for the extension tomorrow.  

Since I topped-up my bank account on March 22nd, does that mean I need to wait until May 22nd to file for my extension? That would be cutting it close.

There are no stamps that I can see, unless it's in fluorescent ink and shows up only under UV light.  Here's two of the blank pages in my kasikorn book.

11 minutes ago, moontang said:

for the 800k letter. it just states balance, but your bankbook pages should be copied and stamped for good measure.

Does this mean the pages in the bank book get stamped?  Or did you mean the photocopies of your bankbook should get stamped?  Is this a stamp from the bank, or immigration?  I don't remember my copies being stamped last year at Roi Et, but maybe I just wasn't paying close attention.

I'll be doing my extension (in Bangkok) next week and have prepared scans all the pages (except blank ones) from my bankbook and squeezed all the images into a single page (front+back) for printing.  Should I expect a stamp on each bankbook scan image or just one stamp on each side of the page?

My last few extensions were done in other provinces so next week will be my first time in a few years that I've done anything at Bangkok/chaengwatana.  I think I've got everything ready but not sure how many copies of my passport they'll want, and which pages.   My default assumption is they'll want the ID page and any page with a stamp of any kind on it (for a grand total of seven pages), and just a single copy of all this.

If the above is true, can I scan all the pages and them piece the images together for printing out on a single page or does it need to be one scan per page (wasting a lot of paper)?

I'll need to scan my bank register too, so the same question here: just the first (ID) page and last?  Or all the ones in between too? Just one copy?

Thanks.

What's this?  Is immigration normally open on Saturdays?

Well that seems reasonable.  Shame that some offices are thumbing their noses at it.

4 hours ago, Thailand said:

So back to the original question.

 

Has anyone actually completed or has been rejected an extension of stay based on retirement based on the BJ "leniency" letter of Jan 2019?

 

If so what office and if accepted what was the period of leniency or the reason given for not accepting?

Can somebody clarify - Is the OP about applying for a retirement extension based on the monthly income method? [edit - okay I got that from the title]

And what is this leniency letter being referred to?

On 4/1/2019 at 11:52 AM, ChouDoufu said:

bkk bank at CW can handle the necessary statements for extensions regardless of branch.  (in bangkok at least...)

 

but note they only have access to database going back a short time....(i forget if 60 or 90 days)

 

if you need a statement showing foreign transfers before that short period, you need to get it at the branch that maintains your account.

I went to the branch where I opened the account and they said they have to fill out a bunch of forms and send them off to the main office for me to get a year's worth of account activity at a cost of 500B.  It has been three weeks and still they have not come in.

23 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I think any branch can access and print out 6 months of records. Longer than that it has to be requested from the head office.  I can get 6 months of transactions using online banking.

I requested online access to my account and - wait for it - more forms needed to be filled out.  This was a couple years ago.  After a few months of waiting and no reply from the main office, we sat down and filled out another set of forms and sent those off.  Weeks went by with no reply from the main office.  I am starting to take it personally.  Is there some reason why online access isn't automatically set up when opening the account?

I don't get it.  The banking system is computerized here.  There's no reason why all of my records shouldn't be available at the click of a mouse.

I also have a Kasikorn account.  At least they were able to print up all my transaction records going back to the opening of the account (2013) right there on the spot.  And it wasn't even the branch where I opened the account.

Write it as a Google doc and post the link so that everyone can contribute and/or suggest edits.

On 3/24/2019 at 8:45 AM, malt25 said:

"I am thinking of writing a letter to the BK Post & The Nation to advise them there are a lot of Expats hurting from the new rules regarding the 800K money in the bank situation, I might also forward it to Immigration."   Me thinks you have way too much time on your hands !

A retiree with time on his hands?  That's unpossible!

9 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

Perhaps because you already visited the IO and spoken to them?

That was a few weeks ago, and my extension will be done about two weeks from now.  I'll be shocked if (1) I get the same officer and (2) she remembers me after all that time.  Still, I could say that I have recently traveled elsewhere in the intervening time and just returned to Bangkok again.

5 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

A copy of the house owners Tabien Baan and ID card is the normal proof requested.

I will have that, since they are required supporting docs for the TM30, but I don't see how either of those documents prove that I live there. Is it just assumed that, since I have a copy of my father in-law's housebook and ID, that I must be living there?

5 minutes ago, Tanoshi said:

What address will be on your bank statement. New or old?

 

When I came to Thailand in 2011, I opened an account at Kasikorn while staying at my current Bangkok address.  After doing a few years of traveling around Thailand and getting three extensions at other immigration offices (the last two at Roi Et), I have recently returned to Bangkok.  So the answer to your question is that they show the Bangkok address, which is both my "old" 2011 and "new" 2019 address.  I never opened a bank account in Roi Et so I have no bank account showing that address.  To look only at my bank account, you'd have no idea that I ever left Bangkok.

3 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

The date of your new lease at the new location could be used.

 

I asked in another discussion about how somebody who does not have a lease would go about proving their residence.  I asked:

"What would somebody who stays with relatives, and therefore doesn't have a lease, provide as proof of residence?  A few pieces of mail?  What about the bank statement I'll already have (because it's a retirement extension)?

Since I live with family, it would be pretty easy to draw up a perfunctory lease, or "lease" and date it the same day as my trip to immigration.