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A donation, under the table , really, most international companies, bean counters don't issue open cheque books, any expences they want to know why and you have to have a bloody good reason, just go's to show how wordly these dumb bums are and how their companies are run, time for a cuppa.

It's actually a Federal crime in the states to pay bribes as well. People have and are currently being prosecuted for this crime.

Yes you are correct it is a crime to both accept or pay a "Bribe" in the US or conducting Business abroad. That is why congress passed legislation stating that if you use the word Facilitation instead of bribe then it is OK at least in their eyes for what they do, Tossing guilt of Corruption is in eyes of those who didn't get a seat at the table.

Google it "facilitation payments" and put this incredible word to use in your vocabulary

Should give him reason to try harder next time around. Just copy his performance and return the favor in 2016. I didn't find it more exciting than midget wrestling though.

One thing I didn't see in these 3 failed attempts though....... some poor Thai stabbed to death

Just got the email on this tragedy and my heart goes out to the family and loved ones.

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Unfortunately I am unable to comment at this time because I was unable to attend the “Born this way” concert last night but lucky for me the DVD of the Bangkok performance was already available on Sukhumvit.

I saw the "no cameras/video recorders" and wondered how could they ever detach Thais from their iPhones/BlackBerries. Statement was probably as false as the Rolex she wanted. Did she ever get one, perhaps the vendor threw in a free pirated recording of her show ?

Pirated? Oh No Not here in Thailand it had an official DVD sleeve in Genuine cellophane and Everything, complete with single sided print "Born This WAY"

Unfortunately I am unable to comment at this time because I was unable to attend the “Born this way” concert last night but lucky for me the DVD of the Bangkok performance was already available on Sukhumvit.

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I guess that explains the 11% growth in economy over the last quarter as it sure was not due to exports or tourism

"more than 260 districts across the country reported no road accident at all"

No Cars, No Roads = No road accidents, save the over turned water buffalo

Wonder if they paid Thomas J. Bergersen for the use of his music.

i am sure he could do with a few triple entry Tourist Visas.

good point

Wonder if they paid Thomas J. Bergersen for the use of his music.

The farang isn't very aggressive in the video. As a comparatively bigger guy than the guard, I am sure the guard would have been on the floor easily if the farang was not slightly restraining himself. In any event, he has been hit in the head several times, so I don't think he is in the right state of mind to control himself fully.

I saw a Thai Tv news show yesterday (at 8am!) of some Thai (girl) students smacking the s%$# out of each other. Now that would have been more likely if the guy was in the mood, or condition, to kick off.

Finally, for the cheap seats, for the slow class... the video is AFTER the hitting! He may or may not have been acting like that before he was hit- there is no evidence yet, and therefore we can't say he is a thug or "deserved it". Are we now all on the same page? Jeez...

Actually the video clearly shows him acting in a violent and criminal fashion and there is nothing that could have happened prior that would excuse his behavior. Even if he felt he was assaulted by another security officer or even one of the ones he is being shown attacking in this video. Clearly the video shows him NOT acting in any kind of self-defensive manner and he is being the aggressor. You don't have a legal right to attack anyone simply because they hit you. However you do have a right to defend yourself which this guy clearly was not doing and had all the opportunity in the world to walk out of the BTS and call police if he was assaulted and NOT continue to break BTS rules and not follow the directions of security officers at the station and force his way up the stairs to the trains.

I wonder if one was to belt you in the face with a stick, would it aggravate you? You seem to blatantly keep ignoring the FACTS. The guy was bashed in the face before even passing the gate and before the video recording started. Stop trying to spoon feed and justify the actions of this guard. And yes you do have the legal right to attack the guard when he keeps touching you and trying to steal from you when pitching an unwritten and non-posted policy different than other stations.

We had this discussion before, all personnel regardless of rank and office (government, police dept, public transit etc...), need to be on the same page and toot the same horn. As soon as that happens and ALL rules are fair, even and Just, then perhaps respect might be due. But until then they have not EARNED it. I see nothing in the video other than 2 Thais in uniform (typical) trying to remove belongings of a foreigner thru felonious means that was unwarranted and certainly unjustified.

I wonder which part of the western world many TV posters come from when they suggest Thailand is a violent place to live. In the 10 years I have lived in SE Asia I have never witnessed anything more violent that a Saturday night fight in an average city centre in UK, USA, Australia.........

If you don't p-ss people off by shagging their girlfriend, acting aggressively, making the locals lose face or indeed breaking security rules such as taking baloons on the BTS, then it is VERY unlikely you will find yourself in this type of situation.

With the current security situation in Thailand being as it is, I applaud the security staff for actually doing the job they are being paid to do, under difficult circumstances dealing with stubburn, drunk, jumped up members of the public who think they have a god given right to put security at risk.

What was the poor British couple that were beaten to death by the chef and security guard the other day guilty of? Not liking the room service?

I am not aware of the news story you are refering to, so thus, cannot comment.Perhaps you would care to post a link. Note I did say you are very unlikely to find yourself in this type of situation.

Here is the story, http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/540704-british-man-wife-murdered-in-thai-resort/page__hl__british%20couple%20beaten%20to%20death

or maybe it was this one http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/162215-two-tourists-in-pai-shot-by-a-police-officer/page__hl__british%20couple%20beaten%20to%20death

Oh wait maybe this one, so many I get confused sorry, http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/41189-british-woman-stabbed-to-death-in-phuket/page__hl__british%20couple%20beaten%20to%20death

I wonder which part of the western world many TV posters come from when they suggest Thailand is a violent place to live. In the 10 years I have lived in SE Asia I have never witnessed anything more violent that a Saturday night fight in an average city centre in UK, USA, Australia.........

If you don't p-ss people off by shagging their girlfriend, acting aggressively, making the locals lose face or indeed breaking security rules such as taking baloons on the BTS, then it is VERY unlikely you will find yourself in this type of situation.

With the current security situation in Thailand being as it is, I applaud the security staff for actually doing the job they are being paid to do, under difficult circumstances dealing with stubburn, drunk, jumped up members of the public who think they have a god given right to put security at risk.

What was the poor British couple that were beaten to death by the chef and security guard the other day guilty of? Not liking the room service?

"What is wrong with keeping balloons out of the hands of the wrong people?"

Balloons, land mines, torture equipment, cluster bombs, chemical weapons are weapons designed to inflict pain and death on human beings. Most victims are civilians, women and children. How can balloon manufacturers, weapons designers, plant managers, politicians, who have families of their own whom they love, be so insensitive when it comes to the suffering of other human beings?

Wot? .... Balloons are weapons designed to inflict pain? Wot?

>swift removal< face.......... you are a missile off the mark on this one fella!

-mel.

Just going with the flow of justification of having ones head bashed in over such a lethal and dangerous weapon as a kiddies balloon.

Comic relief, "Mr bean does BTS? What's next no chewing gum?

"What is wrong with keeping balloons out of the hands of the wrong people?"

Balloons, land mines, torture equipment, cluster bombs, chemical weapons are weapons designed to inflict pain and death on human beings. Most victims are civilians, women and children. How can balloon manufacturers, weapons designers, plant managers, politicians, who have families of their own whom they love, be so insensitive when it comes to the suffering of other human beings?

I was just thinking this morning how wonderful and peaceful the world would be if we could rid it of all these balloons of mass destruction.

Every adult in the world has some sense that he or she might be obliterated at any time by these balloons that we have created. As long as we rationalize balloon weapons as “necessary” in order to save American lives, then balloon weapons will never be gotten rid of.

The students I've been with these twenty years are looking for a world where it becomes a little easier to love and a lot harder to hate, where learning nonviolence means that we dedicate our hearts, minds, time, and money to a commitment that the force of love, the force of truth, the force of justice, and the force of organized resistance to corrupt power are seen as sane and the force of fists, guns, balloons, armies, and bombs insane.

I never liked balloons, I hate them. I agree with the many here who consider freezing all sorts of balloon systems a first step in a realistic disarmament policy. In less than a century we experienced great movements. The youth movement! The labor movement! The civil rights movement! The peace movement! The solidarity movement! The women's movement! The disability movement! The gay rights movement! The environmental movement! Movement! Transformation! and now The balloon disarmament movement! Is there any reason to believe we are done?

In the age when the atom has been split, the moon encircled, diseases conquered, is a balloon free world so difficult a matter that it must remain a distant dream? The single biggest threat that we face is a balloon or some balloon of mass destruction. What that means is that we have to be extraordinarily aggressive and vigilant in controlling balloon proliferation.

it's clear visible, who assaulted who: Farang assaulted Thai !

Absolutely agree...

agree too

agree three

Yes after being busted in the face BY THAI before even passing the gate. But you guys obviously missed that. Would you be a little pissed if some snot nosed kid said "U go Bawwoon on train noooo" then smack you in the face? I bet you would

Both here were at fault not just one.

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As one poster mentioned, there are no signs that say ballons are NOT allowed. ...

Apparently, it's posted somewhere: http://paulvickersde...o-balloons.html

BTW, air is cheaper than either helium or hydrogen. These balloons were on sticks, for God sakes!

It could be filled with poison gas. Same reason why airport don't allow you to bring your bottle water, even though it is harmless. Want to argue with the airport security that your water is harmless?

Bottled water being not allowed on flights is CLEARLY posted everywhere at departure at airports along with all the other goodies not allowed. There were no postings about balloons at any BTS until AFTER this event.

Yes and the whole time he is just trying to get through the turnstile and to the platform, he is not trying to fight the guard, he is trying to quickly get away with his family but they keep pulling him back and then they corner him at which point he starts to push the guard who (I assume) assaulted him with a weapon.

&lt;deleted&gt;. He's been told that he's not allowed to go on the train with the balloons!!! He's ignoring the guards and they are trying to stop him.

Oh my God BALLOONS!!! Hang him and then shoot him, or just smash him over the head with a heavy metal device and give him brain damage, he deserves the worst that he gets, right?

It's irrelevant what they were. He was told he wasn't allowed to take them on, and he ignored it.

He is not trying to fight the guard. He is just ignoring his instructions. Where do you draw the line?

You draw the line by having a clear SET of rules at ALL BTS stations, Not allowing some little snot nosed 19 year in uniform make them up as the day goes on. Show one posted sign at any BTS location stating a child can not carry a balloon. Guess what, you can't. Why was he allowed on earlier at different location and not this one?

Are baloons any different to a pipe bomb? No, not when you don't know what they are filled with.

errr - balloons tend not to contain shrapnel, they'd have trouble floating if they did...

Clearly no difference at all, god I was lucky at all those fairgrounds as a child, remind me to bash my 70 year old father in the head for exposing me to such dangers.

Balloon: A balloon is an inflatable flexible bag filled with a gas, such as helium, hydrogen, nitrous oxide, oxygen, or air. Modern balloons can be made from materials such as rubber, latex, polychloroprene, or a nylon fabric, while some early balloons were made of dried animal bladders, such as the pig bladder.^[1]

Pipe bomb: A pipe bomb is an improvised explosive device, a tightly sealed section of pipe filled with an explosive material. The containment provided by the pipe means that simple low explosives can be used to produce a relatively large explosion, and the fragmentation of the pipe itself creates potentially lethal shrapnel.

The fact that some idiot in Thailand has filled a balloon with explosive gas in the past shouldn't make it illegal for children to travel on public transport with them. That is totally ridiculous.

I guess because a pencil has been used to stab someone to death previously we should ban pencils from schools? And should our children attempt to take them into schools the teachers would be warranted in clubbing them over their heads. Is there no common sense left in this world at all?

+2 agree 100%

If this was the US, the guy would still be feeling the effects of the stun guns and pepper spray if not still recuperating in the in the hospital from injuries while handcuffed to a jail bed .

Question is - If Thailand wants to promote tourism and push for a Disney Land. How would tourist get there? BTS? Will they take everything away from the kids before going home? .... "forget I asked that, of coarse they would to resell to next family" The main thing is all need to get on the same page in regard to tourism and decide as a nation which orifice it wants to speak from.

I think families and all BTS riders would be happy to know these types of people are not welcome. Clearly Andrew Drummond's interest in not to promote tourism but anybody looking at this video with a non-biased view would see this guy was out of line and disrespecting lawful authority while making a scene doing it ... in fact it is logical to assume he was making a significant scene before the video started even rolling otherwise nobody would have video taped him.

If you are concerned with tourism and the image of Thailand then you should direct your comments to people who take videos like this and sensationalize them with completely misleading headlines that insinuate a farang was a victim of a Thai attack when the video indicates the farang caused the incident and was the aggressor. Then again not sure it would help as it is easier to make a living being a tabloid reporter than a respected one.

From my first post I clearly stated the farang made a bad judgment call and should have taken a taxi. The question still remains however, if the talk from yesterday regarding "Disney Land" were to materialize, would toys and balloons be taken away from children? It is a simple "Yes or No" answer or was that an orifice thing again that lead you out into the Thai blue yander?

If this was the US, the guy would still be feeling the effects of the stun guns and pepper spray if not still recuperating in the in the hospital from injuries while handcuffed to a jail bed .

Question is - If Thailand wants to promote tourism and push for a Disney Land. How would tourist get there? BTS? Will they take everything away from the kids before going home? .... "forget I asked that, of coarse they would to resell to next family" The main thing is all need to get on the same page in regard to tourism and decide as a nation which orifice it wants to speak from.

Cool This must be the New Tourism Promotion Video

Disney Land Ad spot for coming home with balloons. I love this commercial.

Fun for the whole family Slogan.

"You'll Love Thailand or we will bash your head in" Scaring children for life.

Sounds like it was excessive force on a farang who didn't want to follow the rules. They should have just called the police if they were that hard up about not letting the guy on the train with the balloons. Give him a ticket not bash his skull .. &lt;deleted&gt;

I did not see the guard hit the farang but did see the farang hit at the guard @ :49 seconds in the video and then clearly see the farang kick the guard in the stomach @ 1:50 of the video and continued to disregard rules. Rules are Rules take a taxi. I feel sorry for the child that had to go through that. Bad judgment call on the dad no matter how you slice it.

Police rescued her after she escaped on her on. Good job BIB no choice now, deer in headlight look, so could not look the other way.