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I suspect they have lost at least 3 zeros off that figure, possibly the Thai tourist board has borrowed them ????

The Chinese government will not allow its citizens to travel to Thailand because Thailand repeatedly shows it has not got control over corvid. We can only hope that the recent cross border revelations are not the flame that lights the blue touch paper ???? Why do I keep getting the suspicion that the non reporting is a delaying tactic for the top echelons to squirrel their money and themselves out of the country before the loss of control hits.

4 hours ago, Almer said:

Its here and im sure it has been for a while, but no recent deaths reported, now that is what i find strange.

If you don't report deaths from covid you have no covid (Thai logic) just as if you do not test you will not find.

On 6/27/2020 at 9:24 AM, Fujionrye said:

It's just west of the Thepprasit Fresh food market, big market where they sell fruit. South side of the street.  Look for the first and only laundromat, ask at the office next door. They'll dry clean if needed.

Hi is this the market next to the collosseum and is the laundromat on the surrounding road.

10 hours ago, Neeranam said:

Boris is a total failure and the sooner we Scots get independence the better!

 

 

If you had got independence Scotland would now be bankrupt and joining Branson with the begging bowl. All their future estimates were based on oil revenue.

6 hours ago, darksidedog said:

That's not good. My major question is what is going to happen to people staying in a hotel when it closes? Are they going to ensure a few have to stay open to provide these people with a roof over their heads?

As usual I suspect a Thai calculator used here that adds two zeros or removes two zero depending on the users daily wish ???? I also suspect a new calculator coming on line soon that removes many more zeros ????

1 hour ago, Eibot said:

Name me one country in the world with a warmer temperature than 23 degrees that is doubling or tripling their cases every day.

The virus thrives in the human body 37Ç the warm country theory is a myth put out by frightened governments that have inefficient or no health systems to deal with the problem. High infection rates in the colder countries is because there are way more international transport hubs to spread the disease. Uk population approx 70mil 29 hubs, Thailand population aprox 70mil 10 hubs.

4 hours ago, totally thaied up said:

Our market in the village is packed.

 

I drove past it yesterday afternoon in my car when I went to an ATM to get some cash. People are everywhere, the market vendors were all cooking fish  and Moo Ping and it was just another typical day out as far as I could see.

 

I have not left my house for seven days and I needed some cash for our delivery drivers. My family has taken it seriously but it seems in our area, no one else has. I am feeling like a fool sitting at home doing what they say is the right thing when everyone else in our area does not seem to give a <deleted>.

 

Seems to me if this virus is wide spread or going to be wide spread, herd immunity is the way they are going about it because no one gives a stuff in my village. If people suddenly get sick in my area, I won't feel sorry at all as for at this moment, it is still free for all and those of us that are following what the Government is asking, are feeling pretty silly at the moment.

 

The streets may be empty, the Shopping Malls closed but back to the villages everyone had gone home to, life just goes on like normal. The impact this must be having to the economy must be huge and if the Government has shut things down for 30 days, there must be some reasoning to it. Either the figures do not stack up or we are being left in dark as the costs of this is just too big/high to make any sense of it.

 

I am really at a loss what to say. A News Paper article from a paper we cannot mention on here said today that Thai people are not taking social distancing seriously. What is to be done? I don't know but it certainly is not making any sense to me at this time.

Do not feel silly and stick to your regime in approx 10-14 days this thing will take off. Forget herd immunity this should not be a choice as in a country with a population of approx. 70 mil this would lead to more than half a million deaths going by the Chinese infection stats. China only prevented this with a complete lockdown and as yet they do not know if containment can be held, hence the riot on the Wohan Hebei bridge yesterday as even the Chinese people do not believe their own government.

Unfortunately I suspect Thailand will be another Wuhan but without the controlling force of the Chinese government to keep the lid on it ???? Temperature keeps getting mentioned stating high weather temps will keep it down but please consider the ideal temp for this virus to propagate is the temp of the human body 37'C and if it originated from an animal this will be slightly higher? The majority of transmission is direct human to human and not off surfaces according to the scientific reports.

18 hours ago, sezze said:

100% agreed .... unfortunate . This is what makes the tourist industry down the drain in May . The month of April is already done and over , try fix May , but i think they lost the fight before it started .

I suspect the washout from this will last 24 months easily and as for tourism forget it for probably 5 years that's if it ever gets back to the previous numbers. I would like to think the Thai government had a plan but it appears they do not which means the country is going down the herd immunity path which will lead to + half a million dead before the spread is halted, Bear in mind that this is a very large number and will all happen within 12 months. I feel very sorry for the Thai people being led by donkeys during a very contagious pandemic such as corvid 19 ???? (Herd immunity calc = population * 80% infection rate (China) * 1% fatalities (China) Thailand is also in the middle of a drought which will exasperate any future recovery????

2 hours ago, JAG said:

Think about those to whom this government is beholden. There will be no real effort to relieve those affected. They will be expected to "go home to their farms".

We are in the middle of a drought there is no work, gainful employment, or money outside the cities I foresee troubling times ???? The government are not spending money as you need funds to flee with when it all turns turtle.

9 hours ago, AussieBob18 said:

The death rate is not 43% - that is a false assumption and wrong.  

2502 deaths from 31506 equates to 7.9%.

But that is also a false assumption - the 31506 are those very sick and tested - most people  get mild symptoms - some none.

 

China has 3231 deaths from 81116 and that equates to 3.9% - but that is also false assumption for same reasons.

 

It will only be when they test many people later and sample who has the specific antibodies to then be able to calculate the true infection rate and the true mortality rate.  Right now it is the sick and risky that are being tested - it is too early to state the death rate or infection rate. The indicators, based on past viral infections is that it is highly contagious and that the death rate (entire popluation) will be about 1%.  But no one knows for sure.  

 

What you are saying is that the death rate from driving on Thailand roads is 43%. You are only measuring those involved in serious accidents and taken to hospital.  The actual death rate is much much lower - but still way too high.

I agree with you statement but people should realize that 1% will be a very large number of deaths. Population* Expected 80% infection rate (China) * 1% mortality. I will give you UK figures 70,000,000*80%*1%=560,000. Get your calculator out and work it out from the confines of your very sensible self lockdown. Also bear in mind the majority of these deaths will be in the 60+ group. They are building temporary morgues in London with public visibility to shock people into safe practice as a large number are still in denial that's why the Tube is in semi lockdown. Coming to a town local to you in the very near future ???? I'm not trying to frighten you for fun this is far more serious than government's can admit without turning the stock market and banks into empty shells. 

3 hours ago, johng said:

Lots of Russians on Jomtien beach this morning.

As their Russian language newspaper's and internet is saying there is no problem why would they not be acting as normal. It will slowly sink in as they start asking why everything is shutting down. Do not blame them they are just too trusting of their leaders as are Thai's. I know one or two fairly educated Thais and I can guarantee they will be in lockdown or something similar.

6 minutes ago, Timwin said:

Very slowly spreading. This confirms the hot&humid&uv protects from wildfire like spreading. It will spread but not like in northern Italy. Good news for all retirees. Protect yourself and avoid large, tightly packed crowds. 

Pandemics do not take any notice of weather or temps the difference in infection rates is minimal. Although I highly agree with your second sentence.

32 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

OK, so 0.000047% instead of 0.0000047%

Thais and Russians have a problem with zeros in calculations and regularly miss three or four zeros off the end as they are worth nothing there is no reason to list them. This is unless its tourist arrivals and suddenly all the previous lost zeros are found and added to the end of that calculation. Some people in charge will be held to account eventually as this is running away faster than the money people are offloading their shares before the general population find out their investments have become worthless. 

43 minutes ago, rhyddid said:

We are like, we are in the hot climate zone where the virus has less strength, indeed prevention is the best Lock the borders and stop what ever transportation now .
Everybody at home for 3 weeks ! 

No data agrees with that scenario although sunlight creating vitamin D boosts your immune system slightly which may be leading to slightly reduced noticeable infections but at the moment this is only a suggestion. Another suggestion is some of the colder (European/Australasian/Canada countries have a higher government truth score) and this may be causing this data anomaly. Normally I would include the USA in this group but I'm sure you are aware of the reason I do not.

17 hours ago, emptypockets said:

Give it time. Outside of the cities the cases will skyrocket and possibly millions will die. But keep that happy thought.

The population of Thailand is very similar to the UK and the scientific community in the UK are predicting 500,000+ deaths if 80% of the population get infected (1% across the board fatalities according to the Chinese data). There is no cure at the moment and not in the foreseeable future so 80% is a very realistic estimate.

2 hours ago, riclag said:

I heard this guy talk about this new research! It looks promising! 

"hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine are effective antiviral therapeutic treatments for novel coronavirus"

 

"A recent well controlled clinical study conducted by Didier Raoult M.D/Ph.D, et. al in France has shown that 100% of patients that received a combination of HCQ and Azithromycin tested negative and were virologically cured within 6 days of treatment".

 

https://www.covidtrial.io/

90% of patients tested would have tested negative left to their own devices looking at the Chinese results as the test subjects were in their own words "We're first focusing on a cohort study of healthy medical professionals" The suspected best option is a drug being trialed in the UK applied through an inhaler that was already being trialed for serious lung infections. This drug works by boosting your own immune defense to take you past the crisis zone of an infection which is a fairly new and novel way of thinking in dealing with such infections and works on a viral infection. Notice I say suspected best option, and I'm already taking Quinine in my tonic with a touch of gin so not dismissed the above as I'm 68 and will require a cure. Once the Daily Wail and the Sun realize and make the association that there is Quinine in tonic water they will be fighting in the isles for it ???? If we are all going to get some doses of hydroxychloroquine prepare for some very vivid dreams as I have taken this for Malaria prevention in India and Africa and had unbelievably vivid and very realistic strange dreams whilst taking it. (Edit) I forgot to add this headline should not read TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR THAILAND as we were already past that stage a month or two ago ????

1 minute ago, Mikeasq60 said:

Do people realize China has resumed normal activities while the rest of the world is suffering? Whats going on here.

Government running out of options and money. Virus control is already known to seriously seesaw with more infections and closedown by using lock down as was shown in the Spanish flue epidemic but lessons are never learnt when commerce come first.

8 minutes ago, Mung said:

1% of suspected infected cases (calculated infection rate not actual tested)

7 minutes ago, sambum said:

And The Minister of Health told us it would all be over by Songkran as the hot winds would blow the virus away, and he fully expected "our" Chinese friends to have a vaccine by then?

You are not disputing his shamans answers are you and he paid for the amulet as well !!!!

6 minutes ago, Walter Travolta said:

I have tried explaining this to the doom mongers. The virus started in December last year, the borders have remained open until recently, so why isnt Pattaya riddled with this virus already? What you are predicting should already be rife in Pattaya and other highly populated tourist areas. Im not being dismissive or nonchalant, Im trying to view it with an open mind and thought. 

I was in a bar last night and I was saying to my friend that all the fans in bars would add to spreading anything around in the air which one would think would increase the rate of infection, but Pattaya isnt even on the radar for this virus as far as I have seen (no STATISTICS from what I have seen). 

No testing leads to no numbers and we wont go into the lies and loss of face problem.