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You can get a re-entry permit at the airport (for non-imm visa holders), but I don't think you can get an immigrant visa and endorsement (for PR holders) there. I hope I am wrong, in which case I won't need to do my yearly pilgrimage to CW. Edit: I just saw @scorecard 's reply. So I am right (unfortunately).
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No, only during government working hours. So, if you learn on a Friday afternoon that you have to leave the country the next day for urgent reasons, you are out of luck. Speaking of which, I have to report to immigration now, as my "Permanent Residency" is anything but permanent - I have to get new stamps every year, as I leave the country on business on average twice a month. I always used to make my yearly pilgrimage to CW in the morning and am out of there before lunch. Pretty fast for a government office, if the travelling within Bangkok wouldn't take hours. It would be even better if this yearly reporting could be done online, like the 90-day report for the non-imms. Anyway, this time I can only be there by 1pm. Does anybody know whether I can still get the Non-Quota Immigrant Visa (not "Re-entry Permit") and the Endorsement within the same day if I only arrive in the afternoon? Thanks.
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Does anybody know whether the new auto-gates for foreigners are also good for PR holders? I am not asking because of the time - I would think the queues at the manual counters will be much shorter and besides, I usually go to the Thai counters anyway. I am asking because of the stamps filling up my passport (and this totally useless Residency Book), so I need to get a new one every 2-3 years. No stamps would really be an improvement.
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Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
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The stamp in my passport says: "This visa is good for Multiple return Journey(s) to Thailand. It must be utilized before...(date stamp) if passport remains valid." The word "multiple" is a stamp within that visa stamp. Also kindly note that I have used visas in expired passports before, I do not apply for a new visa when my passport expires but carry the new passport (without visa) and the old (expired) passport with the visa. Never had a problem with that.
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Why does the stamp say "Non-Quota Immigrant Visa" if it is not a visa? Anyway, the point is that you have to go get stamps (whatever you call them) before you leave the country, otherwise your PR will be automatically cancelled upon return. That's why it is not "permanent". And let me inform you that the PR book (first one blue, next ones white) has no meaning whatsoever since the invention of computers. Immigration knows this; when we were allowed to use the auto gates at Suvarnabhumi for a brief period, we did not get an exit or entry stamp in your passport, and nobody wanted to see that useless book. (I actually don't care about the fees, but that's just me.)
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While you correct yourself later in your post, let's make it clear that the PR in Thailand is NOT permanent. If it were, you wouldn't have to apply for a visa and endorsement every time (or once a year) you leave the country. This is a major flaw in the Thai PR system and highly annoying. I once almost lost my PR because I had forgotten to get these stupid stamps. Luckily that was in the morning on a weekday, and I could jump over from Suvarnabhumi to CW and back in time to catch the evening flight. Missed one business meeting in Vietnam, though. Sure, if you know for a fact that you will never travel again until the end of your life, you won't need the visa and endorsement, but that case is too rare to claim that this is the rule. The other major flaw is that PR holders still need work permits. And then there is a long list of minor ones.
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I recently turned 60 and asked the staff at the BTS to issue a Senior pass for me. They checked and said this is only for Thai citizens. I understand that they don't want to discount the fares for tourists, but I have PR and I pay taxes, like every Thai citizen. Does anybody know anything more about this?
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Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
FWIW, I know a few Thai people living in German who got the German citizenship. They also travel back and forth between Thailand and Germany, and they use their Thai passport in Thailand. One of them is currently in Thailand. Let me call her tomorrow and ask whether the German authorities ever asked her to revoke Thai citizenship, and whether the Thai immigrations officers ever mentioned anything when she left/arrived without a valid Schengen visa. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
You have to apply for approval from the Bundesverwaltungsamt in Cologne first. This goes via the Embassy. If you receive Thai citizenship before the actual certificate (Beibehaltungsgenehmigung) has been physically handed to you by the Embassy, you will automatically lose your German citizenship. Contact the Embassy or send me PM for more details. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
Thanks. Let me c&p this sentence: "The competent official must complete the process within 90 days or 120 days in the case of filing abroad. which can be extended for no more than 30 days at a time". I don't know whether this means the DOPA needs to send the file to the committee within that time frame, or who the "competent official" is. I haven't read the original Thai text yet, though. FWIW I am attaching a file I saved on my computer in 2020. Hm. BTW I did not see anything about a language test by Chula in the files you attached, I did read this: "Tuition from an educational institution in Thailand at least at the primary level". It's a course offered by some established language schools, and you study at your own pace. Three months, two years, up to you. The primary school final exam for foreigners is at the Ministry of Education (I think once or twice a year). I got my Thai Primary School degree (ป. 6) this way in the early 2000s. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
I do not doubt that this is your experience. As I said, YMMV. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
I know Thais with dual nationality. However, when you naturalise as a Thai, you cannot use your other passport in Thailand anymore. In fact, you have to have the intent to give our original nationality up once you become a Thai citizen. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
I don't know about most Thais. How big was the sample size you surveyed? The Thais I know tell their friends when they first introduce me that I am Thai. Some are surprised that I don't have Thai nationality yet. YMMV. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
I have heard people say (in Thai), "I am not a farang with a Thai passport, I am a Thai with a farang face". ???? I liked that. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
I am always amazed by your in-depth knowledge and find it very interesting. Thanks for sharing. Would you know any details about the new ministerial regulations? I am aware that they have not become valid, as they were never published in the RG, but it will show us what direction the line of thought was last year. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
1. You need to stay in Germany for 7 years consecutively on any visa and pass a basic language test and have some basic knowledge about the country (like we have this test at SB). They want to reduce this to 5 years now, at least if you are married. I know a number of Thai people who have German citizenship. 2.) It is a myriad of papers that have to be handed in if you want to become a Thai citizen. The list will have been posted here several times and is probably available on the SB website as well. You have to have paid at least so much in taxes, hand in your company's documents (too bad if you don't work), have made donations to "prove" that you are a good citizen, and it takes many many years. I'm sorry, it simply does not compare. You must be really committed if you want to become a Thai citizen. Which I am. I'm just saying it is not easy. -
Story Of My Thai Citizenship Application
onthemoon replied to dbrenn's topic in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits
It is also much easier for a Thai to get German citizenship than for a German to get Thai citizenship.