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Given his own felonious culpabilities, Thaksin is the least of his problems. To him, any progress is "rushing it". And who can blame him. In his shoes, I would be similarly concerned. The current Coup constitution was designed to protect coupist perp, and those who enforced it at the cost of 90+ lives. Take away that protection, and who knows where it will go. I know where the electoral majority want it to go, and so does he.

I suppose one accurate way would be to count busses, assuming they will be parked in a common area. Just multiply them times the average number usually on a bus, and voila, one has numbers that may be accurate, as opposed to being inconvenient for some.

But how we gonna calculate that?A bus has 50 seats on average,but when I see those buses with Chinese tourist here in Pattaya, I can on average count 7 people and a horse head on each bus.

I asked locals how many people to each bus, of the three going from here. They said 53 per bus, so your average of 50 is very close. Counting busses, doesn't factor in vans however. Not sure how many of those would be involved. Anyway, I'll check it out.

A frequent ploy by the media, is to ostensibly give a "quick backgrounder" exemplified by above quote, which in fact is always a 'quick bit of historical revision"...............The attempt to separate R'song from its intention, aim and determination to challenge the coup perps and their electoral minority 'power-grab', was the mission. This fact is never mentioned. What caused the worst political violence in decades, was when the coupists resorted to an armed defence of their coup d'etat................ The above statement misinforms through ommission, a person for whom such a 'quick backgrounder' is necessary............In addition, the 90 people killed were not generically 'civilians'. They were those who stood up to the coup supporters, protectors and 'crackdowners'.......Just a "quick backgrounder"

When the inevitable discussion arises next week, as to how many attended the rally in Cambodia, there will be those who wish to estimate diminished numbers and vice-versa....I suppose one accurate way would be to count busses, assuming they will be parked in a common area. Just multiply them times the average number usually on a bus, and voila, one has numbers that may be accurate, as opposed to being inconvenient for some.

Yes, political junkies are like that. They enjoy talking Politics, and are opinionated, and are sure they know a lot.....But that is the nature of the beast. Not at all as if they have a lot of time on their hands, or that they have nothing constructive to do.......they get their jollies from expounding, and pontificating about Politics. And since they have a stake in Thailand by virtue of living here, it is understandable they 'go off' on Thai Politcs and discussion Boards like this.........................Is there a problem with that?

Nuetrality is 'chickenshit'...... Have an opinion and spout it off...... Anything else is boring....IMHO

Nah!...........Think what you think and go with it. "Contemplating your navel' is not the way of political junkies. The fact it is "shrouded in BS" is the good part. If everything was clear to everyone, they would all agree with me . But sadly, that is not the case.

Some of us are, at least on the periphery, like a 'fly on the wall"

So Thaksin is a liar.

Unlike all his political opponents, who are paragons of honesty, selflessness and rectitude.

LOL

Right on!

Talk about self-serving repetitiveness. If it isn't Reconcilation, its Constitution Reform....everything is about the above noted motive. Also, the reference to a coup-inspired political withchunt of their opposites being characterized as a 'convict', is ingenuous. That coming from someone having true felonious culpabilities he is trying to 'defer and avoid' at every turn. He really, really needs to recuse himself from this stuff. I am suprised no-one in the PTP is demanding this.

Given the headlines of "The Opposition Leader revealing important information", is it true that Mr. Abhisit booked his airline flight to Yala right before the recent bombing? Did he know something? Is that correct?

Once one can raise their sights beyond this media din of anti-Thaksism, there is possibly another angle worth considering. It cannot be argued that Mr. T. represents the electoral majority in Thailand.....right?....Electoral results of the past, including as recently as last year with which he was closely associated, provide irrefutable evidence of it...... Mr. Abhisit does not have comparable credentials........................ Given those facts, and should these anti-Thaksin innuendoes regarding attempts to affect the Southern insurgency be correct.....What would be wrong with that? Just compare the validity of a Thaksin in such discussions compared to any other Thai politician, with perhaps the exception of Ms. Y, and one can understand the cogency of it all................ So when one looks beyond all the media noise and smoke, this is worth considering.........As for those who would suggest that the recent Bangkok bombings have a relationship to all of this, those would be the same people who would be expected to blame Thaksin for an earthquake in Timbuktu.

I have seldom seen the identity of Southern insurgents specific to organizational affiliation in the media. It is not that this hasn't happened, it is just that I have never seen it. But here it is done liberally, suspiciously so, as it certainly serves to advance the agenda of anti-Thaksism by alleged association. I question that it is a sincere concern about such alleged fraternity, as opposed to a "get Thaksin' agenda.

The whole Southern insurgency thing is complex and beyond meaningfull, superficial commentary here, but use of it for making silly little political points in the above article is noted. Everything from shouting out in bold heading the 'fugitive' terminology,hoping to project felonious innuendo onto a political adversary, and using 1/3 of the article to reverentially quote a political leader with truly culpable baggage that would be congruent with the 'fugitive' moniker, demonstrates subtle intent perhaps not noticeable to many.

Meab (#23 above) questioned the info. that 400.00 baht is insufficient for Angkor Wat....... I know it is what they pay for the bus there and back...... I checked my source and learned that Red Shirts have free access to Angkor Wat that day, hence the total cost remains at 400.00 baht, other than food....................... At the border things have also been streamlined....................... Authorities have already been provided names of passengers according to specific busses.

For the criminal that is the brother of the Prime Minister. Miracle Thailand, what can you say.

Falangs will not get into ankor free So you will pay about 500 a day and pay for room 1000 at least, And 400 baht will not cover the gas, And I know thaksin will not provide one baht of his own money so who is paying ?

You may be right about Farangs. I will find out......... There is no room involved. Depart at 5:00 AM............ The article talks about a 7,000.00 baht price. I think that may be for a travel agency program involving good hotels. .......................The contracts with the bus companies have been finalized, and cost per person set at 400.00 Baht......................... You are correct, no Thaksin money is involved. ...............So that is it. Nothing to add. That is the way it is. My sources are the organizers and there is no need for them to misrepresent anything to me.............But never mind all that......have a Stanley Cup hockey pool to prepare for. Won it last year so have a reputation to defend. ......Go Calgary Flames!.........Oops, they missed the play-offs.

Meab (#23 above) questioned the info. that 400.00 baht is insufficient for Angkor Wat....... I know it is what they pay for the bus there and back...... I checked my source and learned that Red Shirts have free access to Angkor Wat that day, hence the total cost remains at 400.00 baht, other than food....................... At the border things have also been streamlined....................... Authorities have already been provided names of passengers according to specific busses.

"Red shirts are paying about Bt7,000 each to get close to Thaksin, albeit briefly"

Obviously an anti-Thaksin article, reiterating all the Thaksin Opposition paranoia. But let me correct one specific fact. Perhaps some arrangements are paying the above noted 7,000 Baht. Locals however, have filled three busses and are paying 400. baht. which is most likely close to the norm elsewhere. Also as mentioned before, a case could be made that Thaksin is the minor reason for this journey, whilst the major reason is that it provides an opportunity for both camaradery and to see Angkor Wat at a very low cost. My interest is in seeing Angkor Wat.

I have just heard from an informed source that about 5'000 yellow shirts are going, mascaraing as red shirts just to throw eggs at Taksin with the aim of creating the worlds biggest human omelet

So Calgaryll bring your eggs and be part of something historic.

As for seeing Angkok at a low price - you cheap so and so . Imagine if foreigners came here on the cheap for a holiday - "Falang Kee Nok Mak"

I hope this is true about the Yellow Shirts. But it's probably just comedy.

A foreigner going to Ankgor for 400 baht because it's cheap makes him the same kind of guy who spends 5000 baht in a bar and leaves a 20 baht tip. There are plenty of Brits here that do that.

You cant go to ankor for 400 baht that is a lie!

They are paying 400.00 baht each for the bus. Not sure what the situation will be at Angkor Wat. I can check later when my source is available.

"Red shirts are paying about Bt7,000 each to get close to Thaksin, albeit briefly"

Obviously an anti-Thaksin article, reiterating all the Thaksin Opposition paranoia. But let me correct one specific fact. Perhaps some arrangements are paying the above noted 7,000 Baht. Locals however, have filled three busses and are paying 400. baht. which is most likely close to the norm elsewhere. Also as mentioned before, a case could be made that Thaksin is the minor reason for this journey, whilst the major reason is that it provides an opportunity for both camaradery and to see Angkor Wat at a very low cost. My interest is in seeing Angkor Wat.

Thaksin is not the minor reason they are going and they are not going to ankok wat they are going to meet the new messiah thaksin in lao captial get your info right dude.

There was a contingent of UDD/Red Shirts goping to Laos, and another one to Cambodia. Due to the restrictions the communist authorities placed on them in Lao, many have since diverted to Cambodia. Let me repeat what turned out to be the difference:

• Laos wanted no stage and public speechifying. Obviously concerned about the influence of such political activity amongst their people. No such problems at Angkor Wat.
  
• Laos only wanted a low-level merit making type activity at a temple.
  
• Laos wanted the UDD/Red Shirts to transfer to their vehicles for traveling in Laos. Again, Cambodia accomodated all busses crossing the border, and have gone out of their way to streamline the process at the border.
  
• Loas wanted participants to use their travel agency/organization from the border onward, at an extra 400.00 - 500.00-- baht.
  

Given all those restrictions in Laos, many have diverted to Cambodia, including the local contingent.

The only poll that matters was held on 3/7/2011

YUP!

To denigrate and under-estimate ones political opposite is not smart.

It results in being electorally sidelined, as is the case in Thailand.

These survey results all seem to be skewed to the political orientation of those conducting them. I take all of them 'with a grain of salt' including the PTP one above, as well as ABAC, NIDA, etc.. They all try to suggest the public concurs with their particular political slant on things but trying to give it a credible researchy sort of veneer.. A type of "agenda laundering". If there is a truly independent research source whose Poll findings could be trusted, I don't know who they are. Reconciliation is a pipe-dream imho, in spite of what the above PTP survey tries to suggest.

Ouch, that hurt...careful!

How did you know?

You been talking to my wife?

Obviously an anti-Thaksin article, reiterating all the Thaksin Opposition paranoia. But let me correct one specific fact. Perhaps some arrangements are paying the above noted 7,000 Baht. Locals however, have filled three busses and are paying 400. baht. which is most likely close to the norm elsewhere. Also as mentioned before, a case could be made that Thaksin is the minor reason for this journey, whilst the major reason is that it provides an opportunity for both camaradery and to see Angkor Wat at a very low cost. My interest is in seeing Angkor Wat.

That pretty well sums it up. Even though those who are the minority try to slander such decisiveness as 'dictatorial', such opposition needs to be put in context, as the above article also noted:

I probably wouldn't go so far as saying it meant nothing, but to do otherwise, ya end up with a USA system of gridlock.

So lets get on with it, get this Reconciliation 'dance of the veils" over with, so they can focus on productive legislation. When all is said and done, the real perps. of the coup and R'song wont be 'reconciled' the way the electoral majority wants anyway, making all this reconciliation stuff just so much 'political hot air'. A bump on the road to the next election.

"The professor also holds the position of the university's associate dean for research and academics and is the leader of the newly established Network of University Employees"

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"....................... and the reason behind this was bad governance by university administrators and the Education Ministry turning a blind eye"

Everytime I see the word "network' in airing group grievances of any kind, I see the organizational arm of the PAD. So all-of-a-sudden, these questionable problems are the making of this new Govt. and its' 'blind Education Ministry"?........ Having taught at a Rajabhat University in the past, I did not see or hear about any of these compensation problems, in fact quite the opposite......... So the intent of this so-called 'network' needs to be carefully scrutinized as to its' motivations......... I'm sure normal channels of pay and benefits administration are available to address these issues, which use comparative analysis during their compensation reviews. Are these people disadvantaged compared to their peers elsewhere? Such research is readily available rendering protestations to the contrary subject to easy diagnosis .......... Motivation?

You are not only an ignoramus (witness your grammatical errors here), but you must be indeed a thicko if you think Thai university salaries are anywhere near that of professors elsewhere (you are the one to use "elsewhere" ). (I find it amazing that you could have been associated in any way with any university anywhere.)

Here are some useful data for you to mull over (if you can understand them). Here you will see a world comparison of salaries in many professions (in 2005). You will see that American and Japanese university professors earn 10 times the salary of their Thai counterparts.

But at least Thai profs (one eff) earn more than those in the Philippines, Lithuania and Slovakia.

Sorry if it's confusing:

http://www.worldsala...professor.shtml

Let me clarify how salaries are administered, from my days as a Union Negotiator and salary/benefits administrator. Salary levels for any occupation, including that of these Rajabhat Proffs, are either negotiated during Union negotiations or where there is not a Union, other means are used, with the primary one being salary comparative research. Comparing what people of "similar functions with similar kinds and level of work" are earning. Obviously in such a case, it is extremely important to compare oranges to oranges and not apples.

You are correct about salary disparities between international locations and economies. In the case of Rajabhat however, only Thai salary comparators would be used. Proffs of similar levels would be identified at similar educational institutions in Thailand. That is why I pooh-poohed the notion that these people in this article can claim salary discrimination. I suppose if some organizational entity told you that you were underpaid and lets get together and hassle this dastardly Government about it, you would probably agree, and thank them for their concern.

Studying and researching the thing professionally however, these people would be quickly confused with facts. I expect that the Education Ministry wasn't born yesterday, and they will have these salary analysis well thought out. They don't pull salary levels out-of-thin-air, and review them with annual regularity, across the board and including all Educational institutions. They may have decided that they will pay a different salary level at a Government operated Institution than a private one, taking into consideration comparable benefits. A Proff. may well decide to leave a Government operated institution for a private one for pure salary reasons, but he may forego other things. Up to him/her.

Salary schedules often have levels, some of which are achieved through the Performance Appraisal system, others via seniority. I am not aware if Thailand has a performance based system for Proffs. as those are difficult to administer equitably. But if done fairly, can obviously have an impact on performance.

Anyway, I could expound on this further, but that is the main idea.

Yes you do Ricardo.

Start paying attention huh