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On 9/7/2021 at 11:25 AM, Will B Good said:

He has to be a total psychopath .

 

All that wealth and

 

a. He is still working

b. Still greedy and wanting more

c. He is has given it all away, potentially, due to the pointless death of a minor drug dealer.

Who said this is a pointless death of a minor drug dealer?

I notice the pink flip flops, which i guess Hannah wore, but on the night she was wearing white flat shoes, off course she could have changed which suggests she went back to her room. Or maybe i need to go to spec savers, apologies if i am wrong.

Video at 31 seconds

Not so sure about that myself. I think that could be a trick of the light and maybe she is wearing flip flops. Happy to be wrong though.

I also think it is a 'trick of the light'. In this last photo of Hannah Witheridge and 'friends', the shoes look 'very' pink. (camera 16)

Reply to @smedly http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/838898-koh-tao-trial-opens-for-2-accused-of-killing-british-tourists/page-232#entry9681480

'two different people and are at different zoom levels on the stills?' Well... i think there are not so many running man out there in Koh Tao with just different colored shorts. Two different people ? Yes, but whose photos layered over each other and then copied into a background picture from the CCTV video footage. This was not a compairson with a another living person running in front of a camera but with another existing picture. The article says;


-Police have used superimposition, a specialised forensic medical technique, to compare an image of a man captured by a surveillance camera with the pictures of suspects.

-The superimposition technique was applied to two of three suspects who allegedly molested Hannah Witheridge, one of the murdered tourists,on Sept 15, the night of the murder. A tourist had photographed them before the killings.


If you have a photo and just 'zoom in, ' you will never have the effect you describe.

However, I think the article and the picture is kind a strange. It will not bring any conclusion at all. The phone and towel have been just an idea when the forensic team created this picture.I wouldn't take it very seriously. If you watch the original CCTV video footage, there is no towel or phone.

Seriously GB what official role does Mon have at being at the crime scene? His presence alone constitutes contamination.

But why would Mon be at the crime scene all the time if he is involved? If it was me I would stay away .

Not only because he is the son of the headman (Phu Yai Ban) in Sairee Koh Tao and live very close to the crime scene, he might be also in the position of an assistant (Phu tschuai) to the headman. The headman has two assistants, one for governmental affairs and one for security affairs.

If considering to be so it will be his duty to help the headman in every way he can.

Not helping at the crime scene would make him questionable.

However...if he was involved in this case, his position was 'very convenient' and be his last chance to conceal evidence at the crime scene.

Ok so I'm sure this is 2 separate people. Running man in the vid has a different body profile and looks a much younger man as opposed to the image. In addition the image and vid have the same background shop, but there must be 2 separate cctv cameras as the head shot in the image is above the bottom of the window, but if you look at the running man vid at 0.23 then you will see the angle is with the running mans head well below the window.

Yes I think RTP have more cctv and this is proof that they are holding back more images of the 2 separate men

I think the picture in your post is more likely made with software that you can place one image inside of another image for comparison. Like photoshop e.g. That explains why the man in this picture is in another position. I don't think there are 2 separate CCTV cameras. Why would there be 2 cameras installed recording in the same direction?

Superimposition technique is usually used for skull identification. An important way of identifying skulls when there is no reference sample for a forensic DNA. Not sure if in this case the software was used for the right purpose.

I think the picture doesn't illustrate Mon very credible. The hairs..maybe..but not his nose and chin.

Sean McAnna completely refusing to comment is ridiculous. Or Gianni DiLupo whatever that nonce is calling himself these days.

How does he know that? I never read in the news about these french girls. However, if this is true... the girls may hear languages, names or strange voice etc.? Are they in court as witnesses? Somebody knows more about this?

Sean McAnna is >Gianni DeLupo

recently chaged to

>Sean DiLupo (Facebook)

----Seans chat with unknown person (part of it )----

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Thanks for that, though even if one or two girls were brought in to the trial as witnesses, I don't think they'd be much use in this case. Prosecution could say, "Did you see any of the people shouting?". Girls respond, "No, we were too scared to even open the door." Prosecution: "Thanks, you're dismissed."

If true (it sounds v. plausible to me), then it could serve as further proof, as if any were needed, of police cover-up - for not even mentioning any of that (questioning the girls, etc). Similarly, there are several other question sessions we'll probably never hear the details of: Sean, Chris Ware, The taxi driver who was allegedly offered money to lie, the fast-boat driver who probably took Nomsod to catch a plane, Mon himself (questioned for 3 hours by RTP), and likely many others.

I agree totally ... but still.. if true... to find these girls... maybe a breakthrough..?

Sean McAnna completely refusing to comment is ridiculous. Or Gianni DiLupo whatever that nonce is calling himself these days.

How does he know that? I never read in the news about these french girls. However, if this is true... the girls may hear languages, names or strange voice etc.? Are they in court as witnesses? Somebody knows more about this?

Sean McAnna is >Gianni DeLupo

recently chaged to

>Sean DiLupo (Facebook)

----Seans chat with unknown person (part of it )----

Koh Tao police quizzed on why they didn’t look into rumoured bar dispute

Sarah Yuen in Thailand

In testimony in court today, Lieutenant Colonel Kewalee Chanpan, from the forensic division of the Royal Thai Police, said that while the swabs used to obtain the DNA samples from the scene, and the victims’ and suspects’ bodies, would have been destroyed in the testing process, traces of the the DNA extracted from those swabs would still be available for retesting.

The police lieutenant colonel explained that trace DNA material is generally conserved for at least one to two years by the police forensics department.

While she could only speak for her own examination of the alleged murder weapon, some blood-spattered items of clothing, two cigarette butts and a condom found at the scene, she explained to the court that the same should be true for all the DNA samples gathered in the investigation. The officials responsible for the testing of DNA samples taken from the bodies of Ms Witheridge, 23, and 24 year-old David Miller, will appear in court tomorrow. The defence team had already been told by the Royal Thai Police that it could re-examine a few items, including the alleged murder weapon which is a garden hoe. But in court today, based on the new testimony, the defence team was given fresh hope that the more crucial evidence could also be re-examined.

The prosecution claims DNA from the two Burmese suspects, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both aged 22, was found on or in Ms Witheridge’s body. The defence has now been told to once again compile a full list of the evidence it wants to retest, which will be submitted to the police forensics department, asking for it to be handed over to the Ministry of Justice Forensics Institute in Bangkok.

The trial adjourns tomorrow for almost a month. Andy Hall, the media spokesperson for the pro bono defence team, said: “I don’t think the court fully understood the testing process before, so when the police said the original samples had been used up, it believed there was nothing left to test. But the testimony of today’s witness has made it clear there would be conserved DNA residue, which could prove crucial to the suspects’ defence.”

Not investigated

The senior police officer investigating the killing of Norfolk student Hannah Witheridge in Thailand said today that he had not investigated rumours that she had been involved in an argument with a Thai youth on the night of her death.

Read more: http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/crime/hannah_witheridge_murder_trial_defence_team_hope_to_re_test_crucial_forensic_evidence_1_4164482

"...While she could only speak for her own examination of the alleged murder weapon, some blood-spattered items of clothing, two cigarette butts and a condom found at the scene, she explained to the court that the same should be true for all the DNA samples gathered in the investigation."

....should be true...

From my understanding in many countries this would be stop down in 2 seconds by the defense.

her testimony has added absolutely nothing to these proceedings, why are we now going to have to revisit this session today with the people who are claimed to have actually done the lab work ?

The one good thing about this situation is the fact that the next person to examine the DNA (if it exists) is the generally highly respected uncorruptable Pornthip Rojanasunand

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pornthip_Rojanasunand

Yes it will be interesting to see what she finds out.

But one question that I keep asking myself regarding their visit at the AC... what did Hannah's friend have to say? From what I understood David went there alone but Hannah came in with her friends. Can't they testify and tell if there was or was not a bar dispute? From what we read in the media the friends haven't made any comment... that's weird...

They didn't go to the the Bar with David, but saw David? What did Tom Woods, Matt Barratt and Emma Connolly (Madeleine) really see what happend at AC Bar ?

Well a smoking gun needs to be produced that connects the B2, if its not DNA ( which lets be honest is looking very dubious at the moment ) maybe its a murder weapon ( The Hoe ) this is now even more dubious, as it seems they dont have any DNA evidence connecting the B2 to the hoe. Perhaps some of the B2's clothing; Not looking great so far but I do believe they have something like this to produce. They have no motive and no witnesses to the actual crime ( unless they have kept them under lock and key ) The police force had the B2 re-enact the crime when it was obvious they were been told what to do, even if some claim they were not, the footage of said re-enactment shows the B2 committing the crime in a different manner to current theory put forth by prosecutors. I dont think the missed checking of CCTV or other lack of detective work unrelated to the B2 will hold much sway with the judges because it only points to incompetence, coupled with sloppy, unprofessional and alleged fabricated evidence on the B2 however it paints a telling picture.

Even for the most staunch RTP defenders, its hard to deny they have massive holes. Taking the stand and sprouting baseless conjecture is absurd. " We have no reason to believe they were followed from the AC bar " - Any lawyer/barrister worth his salt would tare statements like this to shreds ( given the chance ) It would appear they cannot even collude together, with officers giving conflicting reports of that to their colleagues on the stand. All of which after being informed to go away and reassess the case they have put together.

I have seen some comments alluding to the fact that in many other countries this would have been thrown out, I also stated the same. But instead let me offer a different scenario; The accused are some higher up or respected Thai citizens - Would this trial still be allowed to continue ?

If I am honest I don't think NS has anything to do with these disgusting crimes, maybe people connected to him did, its hard to argue some things dont point to that. I think if NS was complicit something undeniable would have surfaced. Certain aspects in relation to his laywers/familys behaviour has been questionable but that could be for a variety of reasons which I am not informed enough to dissect.

Sean is an interesting character I have first hand accounts of him allegedly been involved with some illegal past times on Koh Tao. He may know more than what he said but it doesnt make what he may know fact. It could well be gossip he was told. I think he is or was a troubled individual who sprouted some pretty damming accusations which so far have no weight. Did he really know David as well as he pertains to? Did he meet him or even intend to? Perhaps he was in some other deep stuff on Koh Tao and seen it as his way out.

Anyways rant over, I just hope justice if brought upon whoever was responsable for this tragic loss of life, along with some small peace for all familys involved.

related to your last question: "Did he meet him or even intend to?"

Sean Mc Anna and David Miller's last chat 14 sept 2014

-Sean McAnna is = Gianni DeLupo recently (?) chaged to = Sean DiLupo ( Facebook)

note: quality is bad because of the upload !

Interesting Photo on another popular Facebook site that want's the truth .

The police who handled this case claimed that a person on CCTV is a Burmese suspect. However, I don't see any similarity between Mr. Win and the guy on CCTV, especially the nose. What do you think?

nomsod5.jpg

My favorite comparisons

1. right arm

2. shoulder

3. bow legs

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running man cannot be one of the b2 so who ?

It was not maung maung (maw) Maw was asked to run infront of AC BAR CCTV to compare with the images caught on the morning of 15th September. He was released because the image caught and his image did not match.

Interesting Photo on another popular Facebook site that want's the truth .

The police who handled this case claimed that a person on CCTV is a Burmese suspect. However, I don't see any similarity between Mr. Win and the guy on CCTV, especially the nose. What do you think?

nomsod5.jpg

My favorite comparisons

1. right arm

2. shoulder

3. bow legs

How about this Christopher Ware? If I recall correctly he had a bloody trouser in his luggage, or something? Have a good look at his right hand wrist...

Seems that all the foreigners named in regards to this case, carry wounds... just like Sean with the blood stained guitar...

If I were the judge, the trial would not even have begun without those two appearing in court. If I were the parent to one of the victims, I'd have asked Scotland Yard to put out an arrest warrant so they can be questioned, detained and if necessary put in a witness protection program. I think they are not just key witnesses, but involved somehow...

Ware stated that he got the injury on his arm previous to the murders and there were photos in the media that showed his arm bandaged before the crimes, but I agree that both British men could be involved in some capacity.

Sean had his injury since the 9th of September. 6 days before the murder. But what about the blood on his guitar? Was it from this accident or from another incident later on? Was this blood on the guitar ever tested for DNA and why he never wash this blood from his guitar.

What I don't understand is why those believing there was a set-up, why the police didn't use this guy instead of clearing him and saying his DNA didn't match. He would have been the perfect scapegoat and certainly would be the best outcome in terms of people believing it mattered to authorities the nationality of the accused in terms of the view of Thailand ... farnang on farnang crime would be the best scenario if this was a motivation.

No idea if the guitar was tested but should have been ... I would think they would have looked at this guy really hard before clearing him based on a number of suspicious things and I believe this was before they DNA confirmed it was an Asian(s) involved.

Sean also said he was among a group of people playing guitar on the beach near the scene.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao

How about this Christopher Ware? If I recall correctly he had a bloody trouser in his luggage, or something? Have a good look at his right hand wrist...

Seems that all the foreigners named in regards to this case, carry wounds... just like Sean with the blood stained guitar...

If I were the judge, the trial would not even have begun without those two appearing in court. If I were the parent to one of the victims, I'd have asked Scotland Yard to put out an arrest warrant so they can be questioned, detained and if necessary put in a witness protection program. I think they are not just key witnesses, but involved somehow...

Ware stated that he got the injury on his arm previous to the murders and there were photos in the media that showed his arm bandaged before the crimes, but I agree that both British men could be involved in some capacity.

Sean had his injury since the 9th of September. 6 days before the murder. But what about the blood on his guitar? Was it from this accident or from another incident later on? Was this blood on the guitar ever tested for DNA and why he never wash this blood from his guitar.

This is one of the multiple phone screen shots i found on CSI LA. Published in a comment days later in a CSI post by unknown. Can be a thai person because his/her English grammar is not very good. Somebody he must know very well and also may be a resident from the Island Koh Tao. When he text-ed this message, Sean must have been already out of Thailand. It would be very interesting to hear his explanation of this.

Sean McAnna is Gianni DeLupo

recently (?) chaged to

Sean DiLupo ( Facebook)

reply to Post #2596 JohnThailandJohn @

Laboratory accreditation can provide a standard which can ensure confidence in the results obtained from the examination of evidence. This is why they send the samples to Singapore. The case was botched right from the start when suspects were seen trampling all over the crime scene with police mates. Countless stories were spread about that were nothing but nonsense. They had to seek the services of an ISO Laboratory to ensure the credibility of the results.
The DNA they have most likely been cross contaminated. The DNA evidence itself is 'in doubt'. Inadmissible in real court of law.

Examination of other key evidence that can be retested now is almost certainly meaningless in this case. Now, because DNA is not provided or used up, there is a good chance the 2B will be free soon. If you like it or not.

The link in your post explains the importance of achieving accuracy and confidence in results of DNA. A good read to understand why more laboratories should have ISO.

the majority does not require accreditation (?)

I would like to remind you; this is a high profile murder case

I'm not trying to mislead anyone. I post only this links for your convenience and understanding. Take it or don't. It is very sad to read your posts here on this forum where you always try to accuse everybody of 'misleading' and you still don't realise how ridiculous you appear. I really wonder what is the real intention always trying to sabotage the finding of the truth here.

Some argument over how long it takes to do a professional thorough DNA test. This explanation is from lab in USA. " With lives and liberty at stake, the forensic DNA analyst has an obligation to produce the highest quality of work and with this commitment comes the cost of time." Time presented here with all the correct steps is 54 hours and 15 minutes. http://patc.com/weeklyarticles/dna-timeline.shtml

In a rape case like this with two suspects even longer i guess. I also doubt the credibility of DNA tests are made in Thailand. My understanding was that they were going to send samples of the semen to Singapore to do the racial profiling which presumably they are unable to do. The 2 boys' DNA samples did not match at first and were released. 300 people on the island were probably tested for nothing.

While perfectly valid for you to not have faith in Thai procedures or testing... Prior to identifying the two in custody an official said they were going to send DNA out of the country to determine race to help them narrow the suspect list. None of us know if that was done or not but "if" I recall correctly it was around this time they started saying the person was of asian decent. Also, while the two defendants may have had samples taken earlier, police have been clear that they took hundreds of samples from islanders, much was never tested because of the backlog at the labs. What they would do when they had what they thought was a compelling suspect was to have a one off test expedited which cleared a number of suspects early on.

Edit: As a side note, I find it very implausible that Thailand doesn't have the ability to test for racial background. These tests are widely used and cheaply available commercially. Sounds like another example of an official making statements in the case without having all the facts.

what facts ?

“Currently, neither of the 6 forensic DNA laboratories in Bangkok is accredited for forensic DNA analysis by international accreditation bodies nor ISO17025:2005. However, out of the 6 DNA laboratories, one laboratory is ISO 15189:2003 accredited and one is ISO 9001:2000 accredited for the management system. All of the 6 laboratories are equipped with essential instruments sufficient for carrying out forensic DNA analysis, though a need to balance the capacity of major instruments to reach it’s full capacity. To strengthen the competency of staffs, specialtraining regarding forensic issues must be provided. All 6 laboratories have positive attitude towards standards and accreditation as prerequisite to carry out forensic case work. Over 66.67% of the DNA laboratories aim for being ISO17025:2005 accredited within 3 years. However, in order to process for the accreditation, the main organizationmust have a clear supporting policy. An external auditor may be appointed as a part of the auditing team to provide a broader view to the laboratory, as well as demonstrating clarity of the quality assurance process. In the beginning of this year, 2007, the Bureau of Laboratory Quality Standards, Ministry of Public Health, Thailand has launched anaccreditation program based on ISO/IEC 17025:2005 for forensic science laboratories. This is would help support Thai forensic laboratories to meet the quality and international standards in the very near future.”

http://mikeestravels.com/2014/09/25/the-dark-side-of-thailands-island-paradise/

-DNA evidence plays an important role in forensic investigations. Accreditations and standards gained by laboratories assure the quality of forensic DNA examinations. In this study, the current situation of all six DNA laboratories carrying out forensic DNA analysis in Bangkok was evaluated by observation, interview, and a questionnaire based on the international standard guideline ISO/IEC 17025:2005 and DNA Advisory Board (DAB). The data was then analyzed in terms of manpower, instrumentation, workload, and laboratory management systems. In the year 2006, a total of 11,000 DNA samples from criminal and paternity cases were submitted to the 6 DNA laboratories. The number of samples being typed in each laboratory varied from 400 – 5,000 samples. A budget of approximately 136,500 baht per 100 reactions is needed to maintain the laboratory work. It was evidence that the maximum capacity of the laboratories had not yet been reached. Two major instruments are required in forensic DNA analysis. Some laboratories had bottlenecks because they did not have enough capacity in one of these instruments. Staff working in all forensic DNA laboratories hold the highest qualifications related to the subject area with work experience varying from a minimum of 6 months to 26 years. None of the 6 forensic DNA laboratories in Bangkok is accredited for forensic DNA analysis by international accreditation bodies or ISO17025:2005, but some of them are accredited with other ISO standards which are not relevant to forensic DNA laboratory work.

http://www.grad.mahidol.ac.th/grad/research/abstract_view.php?id=4936091〈=en&fac=21&prg=2125M&gp=1

-DNA in Thailand within 3 working days. DNA Testing Laboratory Co.,Ltd. established on 3rd June 2011.

Currently (2012 ?) in Thailand, only Government hospitals offer limited DNA testing services, which may not meet the desired needs of each individual customer.

http://www.dnathailand.com/en.html

-express testing option which allows you to have your results in just 2 working days. costs only THB12,600 + 7% VAT.

easy DNA Thailand. com -Customer Service Award, iso17025.

http://www.easydnathailand.com/

a side note

-The DNA tests of semen can take several days or several weeks before results are available, depending upon which techniques have been used by the lab (and which lab has done the DNA testing). DNA tests can show that the semen is not from the suspect. Or these tests can show that the DNA in the sperm is not detectably different from the suspect's. But DNA testing can never prove with complete certainty that the semen is from the suspect.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=23321

one more

Problem 7: Rape with Two Suspects

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/human_bio/problem_sets/dna_forensics_2/07q.html

Some argument over how long it takes to do a professional thorough DNA test. This explanation is from lab in USA. " With lives and liberty at stake, the forensic DNA analyst has an obligation to produce the highest quality of work and with this commitment comes the cost of time." Time presented here with all the correct steps is 54 hours and 15 minutes. http://patc.com/weeklyarticles/dna-timeline.shtml

In a rape case like this with two suspects even longer i guess. I also doubt the credibility of DNA tests are made in Thailand. My understanding was that they were going to send samples of the semen to Singapore to do the racial profiling which presumably they are unable to do. The 2 boys' DNA samples did not match at first and were released. 300 people on the island were probably tested for nothing.

Just to throw into the mix: When asked his views Sean MCMystery said words to the effect :

"Check which 3 people did not come to work at the *** bar the next day."

It was at this time there was much speculation about 2 bouncers at this bar, one referred to as 'shark tooth ring.'

Reports stated that they both left the island that day.

Very little has been said about them since.

Just a reminder.

Where are they now I wonder?

Shark tooth man returned after the B2 were arrested, he's also got form, been accused of rape before by a HiSo Thai model, cant post that as its in Thai

Who is shark tooth guy? Chappie who posed with the hoe? or someone else?

Shark tooth man, different to the hoe guy

and this is the hoe guy. Aon Kohtao ( Facebook name )

Just to throw into the mix: When asked his views Sean MCMystery said words to the effect :

"Check which 3 people did not come to work at the *** bar the next day."

It was at this time there was much speculation about 2 bouncers at this bar, one referred to as 'shark tooth ring.'

Reports stated that they both left the island that day.

Very little has been said about them since.

Just a reminder.

Where are they now I wonder?

Shark tooth man returned after the B2 were arrested, he's also got form, been accused of rape before by a HiSo Thai model, cant post that as its in Thai

Who is shark tooth guy? Chappie who posed with the hoe? or someone else?

Shark tooth man, different to the hoe guy

It's not very important, but ...Shark tooth? I think this is a stingray spine ring.

'widely prized by the Thai and many others as symbol of luck.The large peak of the spine is also symbolic of prosperity,and a form of protection from evil.'http://968341712682304054.weebly.com/jewellery.html

The police guy chasing Sean does have almost the same one.

I dunno, I zoomed in but it's still inconclusive in my eyes. I couldn't really see his birthmarks, just shadow i thought. Could be wrong.

So do i. But you also said 'very similar'! In a high profile murder case like this nobody should just ignore 'similarities' but investigate. Because the fact he left the island after the murder and returned when the 2B get arrested makes this photo more important and himself more suspicious. He is definitely on my list of suspects.

Yes I agree. I would consider him a person of interest, and the police should investigate any similarities but I think the guy in the pub crawl photo is a different guy.

I don't envy real detectives (not the RTP) when seeing how frustrating it can be trying to draw all these little bits and pieces together.

Important correlations before a crime can often be revealing. Very little has been reported and investigated. What friendships Hannah and David had in Koh Tao and what do their friends have to say about this ?

I dunno, I zoomed in but it's still inconclusive in my eyes. I couldn't really see his birthmarks, just shadow i thought. Could be wrong.

I always thought he had been photoshopped in that pic. Surprisingly i've just been on the fb page and the pic is still there.

PS for what ? This photo has been uploaded 12. Sept 2014 !

I dunno, I zoomed in but it's still inconclusive in my eyes. I couldn't really see his birthmarks, just shadow i thought. Could be wrong.

So do i. But you also said 'very similar'! In a high profile murder case like this nobody should just ignore 'similarities' but investigate. Because the fact he left the island after the murder and returned when the 2B get arrested makes this photo more important and himself more suspicious. He is definitely on my list of suspects.

Just to throw into the mix: When asked his views Sean MCMystery said words to the effect :

"Check which 3 people did not come to work at the *** bar the next day."

It was at this time there was much speculation about 2 bouncers at this bar, one referred to as 'shark tooth ring.'

Reports stated that they both left the island that day.

Very little has been said about them since.

Just a reminder.

Where are they now I wonder?

Shark tooth man returned after the B2 were arrested, he's also got form, been accused of rape before by a HiSo Thai model, cant post that as its in Thai

Would be interesting to know where he was the night of the murder. He was very close with Hannah in this photo at the Koh Tao Pub Crawl event just two days before she gets murdered. Did Hannah go alone to this party? Does he has an alibi for the 14th to the 15th September? Did the Police ever ask him about when he returned to Koh Tao? I think it is also a part of a proper police investigation to go after information regarding to this.

I'm not entirely sure that's the same guy to be honest, very similar but not him in my opinion.

very similar...i think you can see the marks on his forehead.

Just to throw into the mix: When asked his views Sean MCMystery said words to the effect :

"Check which 3 people did not come to work at the *** bar the next day."

It was at this time there was much speculation about 2 bouncers at this bar, one referred to as 'shark tooth ring.'

Reports stated that they both left the island that day.

Very little has been said about them since.

Just a reminder.

Where are they now I wonder?

Shark tooth man returned after the B2 were arrested, he's also got form, been accused of rape before by a HiSo Thai model, cant post that as its in Thai

He was very close with Hannah in this photo at the Koh Tao Pub Crawl event just two days before she gets murdered. Did Hannah go alone to this party? Does he has an alibi for the 14th to the 15th September? Did the Police ever ask him about when he returned to Koh Tao? I think it is also a part of a police investigation to go after information regarding to this.