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Im curious, been here 15 years and can count the private aircraft I've seen on two hands. Never see private planes anywhere around the country. What about Helicopters, I've never seen a single private/company helicopter. Granted, I don't spend much time in Bangkok. My question, is civil aviation really that non existent in Thailand? My next question, where do the Military and Commercial Pilots learn to fly? Straight from Video game to Simulator to Passenger Jet or Military Jet or Helicopter?

Private helicopter or aircraft ownership is illegal here, with a few exceptions.

Nonsense.

Patrick

Prove otherwise then.

I wonder why don't you see former regions of cambodia now part of thailand do this? Why don't you see northern thais who were under laos for example do this?

Thailand has invaded Cambodia several times this century and only returned the land after WWII. Victory Monument erected by the Thai fascist dictator Phibun celebrates the 1942 invasion I believe.

Siem Reap means 'defeat of Siam' in Khmer.

Let's not forget the border skirmishes a couple of years ago, and the continuing killing of illegal loggers along the Cambodian-Thai border by Thai paramilitary forces.

The Thais backed the Khmer Rouge in the 70's and 80's against the Vietnamese in Western Cambodia. Pol Pot had safe haven in Trat for many years after the genocides were exposed by the Vietnamese.

The problem in the South is that the Thais claim sovereignty over the majority Malay Muslim provinces, and would have had another seven more that form part of modern Malaysia had it not been for the British. There has been an agreement that the Sultanates would pay tribute to Siam but in 1909 they were annexed as part of Siam lock, stock and barrel. The troubles escalated in 2004 but there has been an independence movement for decades. Those who support independence (and it should be noted many do not), cite Thai authorities corruption and incompetence, neglect of the local culture, language and traditions as reasons. It has many parallels with the troubles in N.I. but it should be noted in just eight years of violence many more were killed in Southern Thailand than in all of the 39 years there.

Thailand is the only country I have lived in, and I have lived in many through the years, where someone I have known personally has been shot dead, assassination style.

Im curious, been here 15 years and can count the private aircraft I've seen on two hands. Never see private planes anywhere around the country. What about Helicopters, I've never seen a single private/company helicopter. Granted, I don't spend much time in Bangkok. My question, is civil aviation really that non existent in Thailand? My next question, where do the Military and Commercial Pilots learn to fly? Straight from Video game to Simulator to Passenger Jet or Military Jet or Helicopter?

There are quite large fleets of choppers owned and run by a private commerical company that services oil & gas in the Gulf of Thailand and the Thai pilots are typically ex-Thai miltary along with expat pilots and they are excellent and they are based nowhere near BKK...and one assumes there are a few other companies as well..

They have special dispensation and operate through oil and gas companies connected to national companies such as Chevron/PTT. Funnily enough I fly with them on a regular basis to go to work.

Further to my previous statement I should have said; private individuals cannot own helicopters or aircraft without the dispensation; Carabao was refused it.

Here is the current list of all civil helicopters registered in Thailand. About half of those 42 listed will belong to the companies you mentioned in your post. Many won't fly at all.

http://www.rotorspot.nl/current/hs-c.php

WOW!!! i'm gonna say this one last time VERY SLOWLY,,,

NO where did I say Thaksin was the PM at the time of the coup, FACT!

now, you say I was (implying) he was PM at this time, so YES you miss quoted me, FACT!!! you are now saying I (implied) it,

ok up to you to see as you like, so now i'll Quote you Thaksin was the ("care-taker)" PM at this time,

next sunshine, the issue is about the immunity for the coup leaders,,, for me retro legislation is sometimes a good thing and sometimes bad, ie cancelling of the immunity,

Just tell me which PM you were talking about when you said "the PM was in New York" and "Thaksin's diplomatic passport was cancelled" in the same sentence.

Just tell me,,, do you accept the democratic vote of the people of Thailand, They voted for Thaksin and that the democrats could not fight their way out of a political paper bag...

you don't have to like it sunshine but if you support democracy then you need to work on your, ohh bugga the dem's lost again and Mr T won issues,

it's the Thai peoples choice not your unless you are a Thai citizen, get over it...

I accept that Yingluck is the elected PM, just as Abhisit was the elected PM.

But with a crucial distinction that Abhisit became PM through corrupt back room deals.He was unlike Yingluck never given a mandate by the people of Thailand in a general election.

That's the point they just can't seem to get their heads round.

Anyone who believes in democracy will support this. It is a good test of those who do and do not. Whatever your poltical differences, a coup is never the answer among democratically aligned political parties. Period. It is also another chance for the Democrats to actually make good on a hideous error they made before. Interesting.

They have made several "hideous errors" if history is anything to go by.

They've never made good on any of them, ever.

Look at all the trash in the picture. The morons in front hoping to become MP, senators or even ministers so they can enrich themselves and the uneducated idiotic sheep behind who keep voting for them and hoping for a free hand out. Makes me want to puke.

Are they not Chinese looking enough for you?

This song has some relevance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NsjhBfKCwo

I agree there should be a balance; and I don't currently see it. From the purple line in Bangyai, Nonthaburi to Asok in Bangkok there are about 26 stops. Who knowns how much this will cost as well as any problems associated with changing from the puple to the blue line. I expect that very few car owners will give up their car for the problems of a compute; such as the availability of parking for their car near a station for the communte to Bangkok, the long ride and expected high cost of the communte and the inconvenience of not having a car once they reach Bangkok in order to get to work. I think the consumers that would actually make use of the lines, the van riders, will find the commute too costly.

There are hundreds of thousands of people that use the existing trains rather than using vans or driving themselves. As more lines are opened, the trains will quickly be filled (as seen on the ARL City Line).

If the trains were so cheap that all the people that are using vans and buses could afford to use them, then, as I said earlier, it would make them unusable.

At the moment, all the train lines are overflowing during peak times and often quite full out of peak. That indicates that the price is not too expensive.

I agree that the trains in Bangkok are crowded. This is easily remedied by installing more carriages: which no one cares to do. Traffic on the BTS and MRT currently is local. I suggest that movement on the new line from Nonthaburi , another province, to downtown bangkok will used sparsely by car owners for this long commute for the reasons I have already listed. It will be sparsely used by van riders because it is too expensive.

Installing more carriages and running more trains will cost more money.

That's the main reason it isn't being done.

There will come a tipping point where they will have to pay back the billions of debt both the BTS and MRT are in, instead of trousering the profits.

Watch how quickly the system goes into terminal decline once this inevitability happens.

Im curious, been here 15 years and can count the private aircraft I've seen on two hands. Never see private planes anywhere around the country. What about Helicopters, I've never seen a single private/company helicopter. Granted, I don't spend much time in Bangkok. My question, is civil aviation really that non existent in Thailand? My next question, where do the Military and Commercial Pilots learn to fly? Straight from Video game to Simulator to Passenger Jet or Military Jet or Helicopter?

Private helicopter or aircraft ownership is illegal here, with a few exceptions.

hi-tech! Helicopter used in inspecting high voltage transmission. What country have you heard of using helicopter for that job? In USA, , Germany, Japan or Cambodia? Oh no. i am sure they don't. Only in Thailand...

9. Helicopter Linemen (UK)

Helicopter Linemen

Although it looks risky, working on high voltage transmission line from air is saver than from the ground. The dangerous things are coming from the helicopter rotor blades, loose safety harness or winds. Every Helicopter Lineman received special training before working on any transmission line field and their salary is better than the Skyscraper Windows

http://smartestengineer.blogspot.com/2012/01/10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-world.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVD0vWg3Kgo&hl=en-GB&gl=SG

He had passport, not on bail, so he can leave normal from airport.

I think not. The airport/border authorities have computer access to 2 'blacklist' databases. One is to deny entry into Thailand and one is to deny EXIT from Thailand. I suspect his name is on that second list.

Simon

Not all of them are computerised and connected to the system.

Easy to leave if you know where to go.

Two such journalists working in Thailand are Andrew Drummond...

Are you serious? When he's not bickering with certain people in Pattaya, he's bickering with other people in Pattaya....

His confrontations with certain petty criminality aside, he has provided some valuable services and information to expats.

This is the same as in any country, just look at Britain and the few people who own most of the papers and media. Stories that produce "scandals" are (most of the time I would wager) rolled out in a way that still suits one party or the other (s).

It might help Thai "journalism", if reporters asked questions rather than writing down verbatim all of the bizarre quotes that come out of politicos mouths.....

Many people died during the student uprising, no matter what PM Samack said. A dictator was overthrown, but since than there have been attempts to set up new dictators. Now 37 years later we have a another form of rebellion. The government calls out 12,000 riot police to protect the Dynasty from 200-300 demonstrators. We will see the press relate the information, but they must be careful, as not to reflect badly on any government person or the police, or they will be punished. Where were the police in 2009-2010? Is this 2013, or 1984?

Not to forget that the same military dictator; Thanom Kittikachorn, was appointed to an honourary position by former PM and Democrat party chairman Chuan Leekpai in the 90's. Chuan is of course Abhisit Vejijiva's mentor.

Thanom's funeral was also paid for and attended by some very influential people.

This from the man who wants to absolve himself from any responsibility for the deaths, injuries and destruction caused by the red shirts riots he helped lead.

But then he doesn't accept any responsibility for his actions so why the need for absolution?

If there was no coup, there would have been no red shirts.

If there were no yellow shirts, there would have been no coup.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

This topic is not able to be discussed properly anyway due to forum rules and Thai laws so the discussion is baseless and thus directionless when we cannot even hint at or acknowledge some of the true reasons behind it.

The only way forward for Thailand is there is no way forward... yet, but it seems to me if that they are unable to take responsibility for the simplest of mistakes or actions in everyday life, facing the consequences like adults, then resolution on this current situation is either impossible, or must be absolute.

 

 

 

Karma is a biatch

Vote PTP and you get to live under water

 

Vote for the Democrats and be happy, save from all harm and been taken care of at all times!

Reality is a bitch, too!

 

I agree, the dems most likely would not have done much about the flood problems either, but at least with the dems in power, we would not have had to pay 350 billion for "nothing"

In short, it is better to have a government that does absolutely nothing, than a government that does nothing but steal public funds!

 

 

I am not sure Moses himself could have done anything about it.

 

 

 

If the Dems were in power with the amount of power that the PTP has things would definatly be a lot better. But when you depend on other parties like they had to do with Newin you are definatly in a hole. I am not saying there would not be problems but they would not be near as bad and the government would not be lying to you every time they open their mouth.

 

The Chuan Leekpai governments in the 90's were plagued by corruption. Deputy PM Suthep was partly responsible for one of them collapsing, you guessed it, due to corruption.

Just two cheeks of the same ar@#.

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Chauffeur?

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Several supermarkets in Phnom Penh have it. Funnily enough, the last lot I bought was made in Thailand by TGM.

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Makro have both. Several varieties of mozzarella; both processed and fresh.

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Phew.. For a moment I thought they started bombing foreigners..

They regard Thais as foreigners on Muslim Malay land.

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I personally believe that the question is irrelevant, as the days of the Shinawatra empire are drawing to a close. Those who believe this is not possible would be advised to read up on the fall of the Roman empire.

It is the other 'empire' that is on its last legs.

The Shinawatra dynasty will continue for many years to come, having no other viable alternatives.

However poorly the people 'up-country' perceive this government, they are still far more embittered by the Democrat government's 'Bitter Medicine' policies of the 90's than anything this government could possibly do to alienate themselves.

Nevertheless, Mr. Prompong Nopparit, the spokesman of the ruling Pheu Thai Party, said the apocalyptic prediction of 8 October is "unscientific". "There has been many such prophecies which turned out to be false, such as the Doomsday prediction few years ago," Mr. Prompong said.

He said in a press conference that the leadership and the members of the party are not daunted by the prediction, and added that the party has no plan to conduct any ceremony to ward off the prophesied disaster.

http://www.khaosod.co.th/en/view_newsonline.php?newsid=TVRNNE1URTBNVEl5TWc9PQ%3D%3D&sectionid=TURFd01BPT0%3D

Common sense from PTP. Don't the Democrats realise how stupid they sound?

The British Embassy sucks more than The Nation newspaper. Disgusting, again.

... and certainly takes every opportunity to suck what it can out of British nationals needing nothing more than a rubber stamp and a signature....!

And who pays for the person to be sat there to do the stamping? who pays for the desk and the chair and the paperwork and the carpets and the rent and the holiday pay and the money that pays for all those people sat waiting to give letters and stamps where only 10 people a year pitch up but they complain bitterly if their is no service. Do you have any concept of the system needed to provide a service and the costs involved? Or are you just another cheap expat on the run from troubles at home that wants everything for nothing provided on a plate for you?

I do apparently. 2,800thb for a letter of residence the other day which was done in little over 5 minutes.