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Surely the key is to attach explosive collars to each citizen. That way when the inevitable shooting spree kicks off, the authorities can just press a button to terminate the shooter. Obviously restricting guns won't work or having tougher laws regarding the purchase of high powered weaponry because then you're restricting the freedom to indiscriminately open fire on work places and schools, which is enshrined in the constitution.
"The Second Amendment has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public."
- Former chief justice Warren E. Burger.
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Really I have no idea at all which are the expectations USA authorities.
People can hold at home AK-47 or what they want for sport purpose, and they can use it as they want in their own lands.
So if some-one has a bad idea may start immediately.
Please just imagine if Thais can hold at home legally AK-47 .....
Yes, but only as a semi-auto unless it was imported before 1986.
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Nothing really new in this. Actually a bit of running behind trying to catch up, as many countries in the Western World have modified their laws to try to copy with cyber bullying, cyber hatred, cyber lies.
Err..not really. "cyber criminals have been using the social media as a tool to convey distorted information to cause dissension, post defaming messages..., spread propaganda," Limiting free speech seems to be the main goal of this, the opposite of what you find in the west.
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Can't challenge the jet ski guys. The army tried and failed, they are protected too high up. Best to stay away from the beach and Phuket also.
What is higher than the army right now?
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Back? They never left. (Except maybe a couple days in Patong.)
It seems very odd that the NCPO orders to clean up the island and it's reputation did not include, if not specifically then at least generally, jet ski's seeing as they damage the image of Phuket and Thailand, create the most negative comments second perhaps only to tuk tuks and taxis. Since it is illegal to operate a Thai flagged vessel in Thai waters without a Thai captains license, this is a no brainier. They make a small number of people a lot of money in the process. It just makes no sense whatsoever to keep them. The only explanation is they are paying big money to officials and police to continue operating. The NCPO claims to be on a huge anti-corruption drive, but they are missing a big opportunity here. They can start with the Marine Office 5, if only they can catch .Director Phuripat with his foot out of his mouth.
The biggest impediment I see so far, to the NCPO crackdowns, is that there is an initial crackdown, and then no follow up, and no enforcement. So, what is to prevent these knuckleheads from coming back? Certainly not the NCPO, who are fabulously weak on enforcement. Are these guys getting arrested, and going to trial? Has anyone served time in prison yet? Are any massive fines being levied? Are any of the jet skis being confiscated? What exactly is being done, other than a weak crackdown? The army runs the risk of becoming a laughing stock, if they do not have the guts to institute some enforcement. Everyone in Thailand, including the army know that if you crack down, and then show an incapability of following it up with penalties, arrests, and follow up enforcement, nothing will ever change. Nothing. And at that point you are doing nothing other than putting on a show. So, are they serious, or are they just putting on a show?
Actually, I would say the NCPO are following up on a lot on other issues. Beach chairs, beach encroachment, taxis. I have seen the Army (actually navy sailors and marines but same same) in Patong many times since the coup as recently as a couple days ago. The problem isn't follow up, it's a conscious decision to not address them. It has been said that the jet skis are exempt from this crackdown. If that is the NCPO's position, then the jet skis didn't need to take the 2 or 3 days off they did, and there is nothing to now follow up on. My guess is there was a local decision, interpretation, made to include the jet skis in the NCPO's orders. Somebody told them to leave at some point. That interpretation has apparently changed.
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Two days later and it's still knocking about. Every time I hear the dogs going off I step out with my camera, but it runs into the jungle before I can get a photo. Mrs. Nomad just sent me this. She managed to get a blurry shot of out through the window.
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I dont see such thingWhat does "’" in the thread mean ?
I see it too. In the header. It's a formatting error when software is unable to display a character. For some reason TV's software doesn't like the apostrophe after "THAILAND". I'm sure a mod will be along to fix it. Also to take it out of caps.
After skimming the link, it is unlikely they will allow this post to stay anyway.
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Automatic weapons with extended magazines should be a birth right and handed to citizens as soon as they pop out of the baby maker. Heavier weapons such as 50 caliber machine guns and hand grenades should also be permanent additions in every house. Tanks should be made available to everyone and each neighborhood should have an Apache gunship stationed nearby ready for use.
We all know that if there is a cloud of poison gas in the air killing people, the correct response is to add more poison gas in order to equalize and negate the threat. Yes, more guns, that must be the answer.
Finally someone who understand that one fights fire with (bigger) fire. It's what the US has been doing around the world for the past 60 years with great success.
The US protect their interests with thinly veiled excuses and manipulation, same as every country in the world. A few people in a previous administration even convinced many of us to support the invasion of a country because of 9/11 and WMD which had nothing to do with either. The lies were criminal and those people should be called to task.
However, before you vilify the US, take a look at the direction the axis powers were headed after WW2 and tell me if you think the world would be better off under that leadership. US leaders haven't always make the right decisions, but look at the foreign aid, look at the amount of money and manpower which the us puts into humanitarian efforts. I think some slack should be cut. It is the worst governmental system in the world, except for all the others.
None of this has to do with US gun laws, which to any rational person are completely insane, but will never change without first a civil war.
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"Two-thirds of incidents ended before police arrived, though only one ended when an armed citizen not working as a security guard responded with gunfire."
I think this clearly proves that there is a need for less gun control. If everyone would carry (preferably concealed) fully automatic weapons, I can garantee more than one of these incidents would have been stopped by a citizen...
Completely illogical, as all pro-gun rationalizations are.
Arm the public and except the number of "active shooter" incidents and accidental shooting deaths, especially among children, to skyrocket.
Also, just because they can, "everyone" wouldn't carry. Perhaps a few more people would, but most people don't feel the need or have the interest. Most people are rational.
The people that commit mass shootings are expecting to be killed. Knowing there is a better chance that someone might be shooting back is no deterrent to these people in the mental state they are in. It would actually be more of a draw. It would make it more "fun" for them.
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If I didn't know better, I'd say good old Marine Office 5 loves tea. For the life of me, I can't recall one good thing that has happened under this guy's watch. Why isn't he enforcing the law which requires anyone riding a jet ski to have a Thai marine license ( whatever it's called)? It can't be because of the tea, could it?
These jet ski and parasail hooligans are taking over the beach and don't even dare to put your stuff down where they are operating, or you'll immediately have a problem with a group surrounding you telling you to move if you know what's good for you.
Yep. This guy has jurisdiction over a great number of problems, none of which ever seem to get sorted.
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You could always adopt it.
Awww. That's one lovely lizard
Apparently they can be domesticated.
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Back? They never left. (Except maybe a couple days in Patong.)
It seems very odd that the NCPO orders to clean up the island and it's reputation did not include, if not specifically then at least generally, jet ski's seeing as they damage the image of Phuket and Thailand, create the most negative comments second perhaps only to tuk tuks and taxis. Since it is illegal to operate a Thai flagged vessel in Thai waters without a Thai captains license, this is a no brainier. They make a small number of people a lot of money in the process. It just makes no sense whatsoever to keep them. The only explanation is they are paying big money to officials and police to continue operating. The NCPO claims to be on a huge anti-corruption drive, but they are missing a big opportunity here. They can start with the Marine Office 5, if only they can catch .Director Phuripat with his foot out of his mouth.
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"Now the number of tourists has decreased because there are no sunbeds, no food or drink deliveries and no massages."
Lol. Well, not really. I fear they may actually fool some people with these kind of lies. Actually, the opposite is true. The whole point of the clean-up is to address complaints by tourists negatively effecting Phuket's image.
"we no longer have jobs.
“We have no money to support our families or provide medical care for them. We have worked in these jobs for about 10 years. We do not have the knowledge to do any other job and we have no land that we can farm.
More nonsense. There is a massive employment shortage in Phuket. Thai people are resilient. I have full faith the 100-200 people this is effecting will persevere.
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“Our beach must be cleaned and free of garbage for a good image,”
It's not your beach.
It is, it is everybody's beach.
My point exactly.
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Same as Jimi, I had just the dogs going nuts outside. I went outside just in time to see 2m monitor lizard slithered into the small pond behind the house then ran across the road into the klong. They certainly are fast! I don't recall ever seeing one in the wild in Phuket before. What a magnificent creature. A living dinosaur.
I opened the door at 3AM the other day to get some fresh air. All four of our terrified cats raced inside. I wondered what was up.
We had a 1 meter long river monitor in the courtyard.
I killed it.
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It's abhorrent to think someone would want to kill one of these. Shame on you. You disgust me.
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I had a bung arab like that at myhouse liked to sleep on the water tank. I shot it in the head with my ging didn't even flinch
What is a "bung arab" and a "ging."? You make your signature highly ironic.
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"He also said that if taxi is forced to use the same metre rate or 35 baht for the first three kilometres, then they may return to the previous bargaining system again and no metre use which will do no good to passengers"
Making threats to get there way is certainly the Thai way. The jet ski mafia did the same thing. They said if they weren't allowed to operate, thier "staff" would resort to robbing tourists. (as opposed to merely extorting them)
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Yes, standard procedure. If stopped by the police he will need his Thai ID card, a valid drivers license for motorbike, a copy of the green book (which the finance company will provide you) and the compulsory tax disk.
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^ Touche'.
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Hundreds of taxi sala's have been removed, black plated taxi drivers are getting arrested and heavily fined all over the island, and having their vehicles seized left and right. Green plated taxi's are now forbidden from parking in public spaces in Patong, or from taking people to anywhere other than the airport.do we live on the same island??
at most 30 or 40 stands dismantled but the drivers still sit there waiting...
go to Patong anyday or night an u wil see at least 100 tuk tuk 's on beach road,
u will see green plated taxis there as well and in front of Junk Ceylon an just about everywhere on the island siting and waiting for customers.
Here in Kamala there are 2-3 places on the main road that usually have 3-4 green plated taxis an there are 2 places on the beach road that tuk tuk and the taix's park waiting
Not sure about down south as never go there
Take off ur rose colored glasses.
Its a start, nothing more an i have a wait and see attitude ( high season is on its way)
No, we live on the same island. I am just apparently much more aware and informed of the changes than you are. I walk Bangla rd. at least a couple hours twice a week talking to and helping tourists and I occasionally work at a major hotel there. I unfortunately must deal directly with tuk tuk and taxi drivers.
Everything I reported is accurate, what you have said is not. The number of salas removed are near 200, not 30 or 40. And there are far fewer green plated taxi's parked around Patong. I know because I often am in a position to help people find one.
One of the biggest problems was the inability of any vehicle to enter certain hotels without being harassed, threatened, blocked, or have the driver physically beaten. This has completely ended and that is a huge accomplishment.
I used to get harassed when parking my car or motorcycle in public spaces. Since this crackdown, not a single driver has bothered me. There is no doubt the overall behavior of drivers has vastly improved. I admit I am cautiously optimistic. If nothing comes of this, nothing ever will. It's Phuket's last chance, and this is why I get a little frustrated when people have a chance to make a difference and they don't. If this happens again, record the vehicle ID and call 1584 as well as the Consumer Protection Police Provincial Office and Complaints Center at 1135 which handles issues with taxis.
Richard, please take of the $#!( colored glasses.
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Who would want one of those pieces of crap.
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^ In the light of every thing they have accomplished, I don't understand the defeatist attitudes. The mafias back has been broken. Karon and Patong mayors, head of the Patong taxi federations, along with about 200 others in supporting roles have been arrested, many are still in jail. Documents and bank records are still being investigated. Hundreds of taxi sala's have been removed, black plated taxi drivers are getting arrested and heavily fined all over the island, and having their vehicles seized left and right. Green plated taxi's are now forbidden from parking in public spaces in Patong, or from taking people to anywhere other than the airport. The new mayor of Patong is pushing for converting tuk tuks to hop on hop off baht buses. The situation at the airport has vastly improved as well, with more metered taxi's stationed up front, which can now pick up all over the island. Obviously it's still not 100%, but I have seen much of this with my own eyes. The war is far from over, but several battles have now been won. Big change has happened, and bigger change is still needed. They have accomplished more in the last 6 months than in the last 20 years. Until every tuk tuk driver is randomly drug tested (including alcohol), is converted to either "baht bus" hop on hop off for a nominal fee, or fitted with a meter, then the scams will continue and the islands reputation will continue to suffer.
pr had one incident of a meter taxi not wanting to turn on their meter and it's "Nothing has changed, nothing will ever change." I'm sorry, that's just ridiculous.
Sorry to hear your car broke down Richard. Phuket is still a bad place to have to rely on public transport.
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"Dont jump on the two of us cause we know the results of reporting the taxi's"
You do not, can not, know this.
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Car rental is an option that many are turning to now, however, parking can be a problem.
Same as the rest of the world then?
No, in Patong it is much worse than most the rest of the world. Though parking on the beach road has gotten a little bit better lately with some of the changes being made by the Army.
Police reveal how Phuket's public beaches were rented out - for billions
in Phuket News
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Hear that? That's the sound of any chance of sunbeds returning to Phuket beaches evaporating.
To see the extent they are taking this (not only kicking them out but now charging the beach chair operators with crimes) I think the jet ski guys aren't being ignored, I think they are just farther back in the que.