thaigirllondon

Lets get back on topic.

What happens if the British partner dies 7by7 (and no Luifer, I do not intention to kill anyone......yet)

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if you find a post objectionable do not respond and provoke a silly argument but use the report button.

I did that already.

I took it as a joke based upon your posting history.

But, as I have said to you before, if you find a post objectionable do not respond and provoke a silly argument but use the report button.

Oh, a joke. I see. Take this as a joke too please.

I think Lucifer is judging me based on his experiences with Thais to date. I think that he is assuming that just because me and the people/person in his expereince come from the same country, we are all the same. ha ha.

Not quite, Milord,

If a marriage breaks down before the foreign spouse has ILR then the basis for that spouse's visa or leave to remain will no longer exist and they should leave the UK immediately; although in practice they have until their current visa or leave to remain expires.

There are exceptions to this, of course, such as the marriage breaking down due to the foreign spouse being the victim of domestic violence or the death of the British or UK resident spouse.

If the marriage breaks down once the foreign spouse has ILR then their ILR is not canceled and they may remain in the UK. Unless it can be proven that they obtained the ILR fraudulently or they only entered into the marriage in order to obtain ILR.

This is a good post, I will add some comments please. And who is Milord?

Actually, yoi, 7by7, said soemthing about death. What does happen if the British partern dies?And for the sake of those with bad expereinces of low so Thais, no I do not plan on killing anyone.

I said that the women, by all commentary, has the ILR. So what if breakdown is her fault and she does then want to stay, are you saying she can stay forever? So women can get a ILR or ILE and then ,as soon as they do, cheat on their partner and still get British nationality? And even stay in UK forever with ILR visa. Wow, thank you. I didn't know that.

Sometimes I think England's laws are too easy and relaxed.

Are you thinking of an affair then Thaigirllondon? Better wait until you get your sought after naturalisation before being found out.

Is the real reason for your questions about how long naturalisation takes coming out now?

No, I would not cheat on my husband, family and indeed myself. And no, I do not plan to chnge that when I become British.

Assume she is on a ILR visa (I believe she is from reading commentary)

What would happen to this woman's status when the husband removes her from the marital home for cheating.

By the way I think the husband is a weak man. And I use the British term, he needs to 'Man up' not because I think he need to act in a violent way as some posters suggest this phrase means. But, more than that, that he needs to act now, kick her out of the maritial home and not be the mat in front of the door for her to wipe her feet on.

So, what would happen to one's visa status in this sitation when you have cheated on the husband (assume with or without Kids with british nationality).

Lets not forget that seven, yes 7 said that there had been no direct violence. And he said that there was one incident when the husband (whom she felt a kind of love for) put her out of the marital home. A marital home that was his idea, not hers.

Opps sorry, I meant 7by7

If you PM me, I will prove I am Thai if you want. And why would a Thai not be able to write like this? Please avoid the sterotypes.

So, any irregular readers who check in every 23 days like to comment on this (like the ons who visit not so often as their partners already got the visas and are living happily in the UK for years)? Thank you in advance and thank you to Boo and Endure so far.

So, how many of you have a partner who has become a British citizen?

Do you have a partner that has lived in the UK for a long time but never bothered to get naturalised?

Perhaps you've been living out of Thailand for a while. In Thailand confrontation can easily get you killed and that's one of the reasons that in Thailand grassing and annonymous actions are relatively common.

Why do farangs always make up these outrageous comments aboutThailand and Thai people? Why are you so scared of the locals? Just because one ex-hooker's boyfriend and brother club a farng to death, you think we are all so violent.

I have seen more fights in UK in 3 years than I saw in Thailand in my whole life!

How so? Having a "manly" confrontation could very well have these consequences

My Englih might not be as good a yours BUT you are twisting it. Being a man and confronting the owner if he believes he is expoliting his wife is different from having a 'manly confrontation'. The nuance in your quote infers fistcuffs and I didnt mean that. I just meant do not hide behind the coat of annomity but to outwardly talk to the owner and defend his wife's rights.

I hate violence and vilolent confrontational ones.

What if he were to take your suggestion and end up in hospital from a "random accident" and his wife in trouble with the tax or immigration authorities, are you going to take responsibility?

The last part of your post is nonsense. sorry

How so? Having a "manly" confrontation could very well have these consequences, maybe the odds are slim on the former, but I don't thinks so on the latter.

I honestly think she should just get out of there and leave well enough alone.

I also agree that "grassing" isn't appropriate, but if it is going to be done then IMO should be done safely.

Good post BigJohnny (nice name too)

I meantthe part of me taking responsibility, that is all.

I agree, she should get out of there. I guess that is happening is that she is being paid a monthly salary based on 40 hours per week and paying tax and NI but the job needs more than 40 hours, so she is coming in and doing it all (and taking 60 hours) and she's not getting paid for it or asking.

I get paid a salary for a 37.5 hour week and I always work at least 48 hours and sometimes a lot more. But so do all the Brits I work with too. However, because my job is professional (and not of course minimum wage) so no one ever questions it.

And good point about grassing also. No need to do that when his wife has a good relationship with all at the restaurant and she would not want it.....trust me on that. Irrespective of background Thai females share this cultural trait. Men are men and women are women and hiding behind annonymous calls to destroy another's rice bowl is cowardly and un manlike (even though some Thais do it and just as many farangs would not whereas others would).

(this has relevance now due to preceding post)

For a system of law and order to work, majority of citizens must be compliant. And therefore for forum to work the vast majority of posters must be compliant. Many posters on this thread (read up) have suggested to other posters to keep on topic. I am no different. Please treat me fairly despite my outspokeness and Thai ways you may find to be unfamiliar. I am not the compliant little quiet asian wife.

Now, can we keep on topic please?

Firstly the OP's wife should ask for a better deal from her current boss, including a decent contracted salary.

If this is not forthcoming (most likely outcome) she should find a new job or start her own business.

Simple

Sent from iPhone; please forgive any typos or violations of forum rules

Good post. It is that simple!

.....Back on topic please....

It's generally up to the moderators to serve this function, have you been made one and your icon not updated?

Also, rather than posting a half-dozen in a row to the same thread, you may want to take advantage of the "multi-quote" feature.

Finally, challenging people's "manhood" is considered by most to be pretty neanderthal these days, we're trying to avoid such patriarchal gender-stereotyping attitudes around here. What if he were to take your suggestion and end up in hospital from a "random accident" and his wife in trouble with the tax or immigration authorities, are you going to take responsibility?

No, I have not been made a modertor but this is a community and we all need to take a responsibility for that. Dont we? I am not a policewoman too but I encourage others to follow UK laws. As you have suggested with the quoting mistakes .

Most in England orr most in the world? I am Thai and in Thailand we like our men to be men and our women to be feminine. Thats why we dont have chavettes drinking pints and acting like men. Different cultures and just cause I live in UK doesn;t mean I become English over night. If my husband was a grss hiding behind annonymous calls and no confronting a man he thought was exploiting me, I would kick him out of my life. I reiterate, man up.

The last part of your post is nonsense. sorry

Why don't YOU go and speak to her boss, or at least give her some support. She probably feels intimidated by this man.

Meals for staff in the catering industry are gratis. One of the perks of low-paid work...

Well said Simon!!! Finally a man who acts like one.

On a different note; wh

On a different note; when my wife arrived she did not want to work in a Thai restaurant, even though she was offered a job in one. Her reasoning being that working only with Thais meant she would be speaking Thai most of the time and her English wouldn't improve. It took a few months, but then she did get a job working with Anglophones and her English improved rapidly.

Please stick to the topic (as a poster). The topic is about exploitation of his wife in a Thai restaurant not your wife's employement choices to improve her English with 'Anglophones'

By the way, an Anglophone commonly refers to an English-speaking person, especially one in a country where two or more languages are spoken. Or indeed someone who just speaks English. Perhaps a better description would be 'Native speaker'

.....Back on topic please....

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If you don't want to get involved, it may be worth an anonymous tip to the UKBA. If the restaurant is paying below minimum wage they are likely to be employing people whose visas do not allow them to work, or students working more than the 20 hours a week they are allowed. Even if they are not a visit from a UKBA enforcement team may shake them up a bit.

Oh my, another under-handed comment. Rather than be a grass, why not be a man and speak to owner, a couple of guys together? You can get a long way through communication than you can by playing such silly annoymous names. Mybe better than if you believe in an action to put your name to it not to hide.

do the 'Thai' thing and grass the boss up to the authorities.....get the UKBA round to the restuarant as well so it really shakes everyone up in there including your wife who if she is being exploited will not be prosecuted...the authorities may question you as to why you let things like this carry on to someone you are married to and have brought over from a foreign country though...

Or just man up (unlike the one above) and talk to the owner face to face, like Farangs do :-)

i think you should let her carry on and build up her confidence

Why d you assume that she doesn't have confidence? She's not a little chick to be warpped in straw.

Thank you so much, Boo.Good for him and your baby too

Thank you again

Jazz

With all due respect, I know what you have said but you are not the oracle and not a professional so please could you let someone else have some input? I am looking for poster opinions, not just your take on it all. Is that OK? I am sure you have better things to do on thi lovely summer's night.

You keep on asking this question

Yes and no. I keep trying to find a way of asking the question which meets your requirements.

I agree with 7by7. This is all true. Friend did the same last year.

My friends payment went 5 weeks after it was made.

Heard of 1,000 signatures on a letter from an MP to UKBA boss to support a Thai woman who's child is in the UK to a Brit husband who's visa was refused as she had had too many tourist visas (and the husband was in process of divorcing his brit wife). It worked and she got in again on a tourist visa and later commonlaw wife visa (cant rememebr the name of it).

They are very happy now. Thing is, he is a millionaire and they still didnt allow at first! Crazy. She used to be HR manager at Nike Bangkok!!!!!