BaanOz

14 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Someone in the village

Ahh yes typical reply here.

Just spent 6 months on a METV and extending the visa at immigration twice. Plan to do this yearly.

Went to the local family shop to do some printing and the second time I went they inadvertently printed the first set I have them do 2 months earlier.  They had stored scans of personal stuff but I made sure they deleted it but probably wasn't fully deleted on their laptop.

Don't think anything criminal would be intended but don't want this happening again. Yes I might be able to find a less dodgy place to do printing but rather do it myself.

Looking up printers found a good option may be a cheap portable thermal printer as I hate troubles with ink while leaving them sitting for a long time. Would bt least 6 months between printer use.

Question, would the crappy thermal paper be accepted by immigration please?

10 hours ago, Sheryl said:

No, this is not correct.

 

The "30baht" covers surgeries, medications etc. 

 

However motor vehicle accidents are different and medical costs are paid gor by the compulsory 3rd party insurance. Which I believe pays up to 30,000 baht in medical costs. 

Thank you Sheryl,  great it covers all but know why now he has to pay.

Not sure if the motorbike he was riding was registered but doesn't have a drivers licence so that would void any insurance.

On 6/8/2024 at 11:43 AM, Sheryl said:

OP has already decided his wife will rely on the universal (aka 30 baht) government system, as most Thais do. 

A Thai relative here has recently had a motorbike accident. A pedestrian ran across a road and the relative hit them and they crashed the motorbike, breaking bones in their shoulder.

I'm getting this 2nd or 3rd hand but he needs to pay for the surgery 30,000 baht. Questioning this, it seems the universal 30 baht system only covers the hospital bed and not the operation. This is the government hospital in Phuket Town.

(no haven't been asked to pay or help haha!)

Is this correct? Could this surgery be subsidised and the 30,000 baht is a minimum fee?


 

Don't think anyone has mentioned Georgetown Penang.
Did it a couple of months ago, about 5000baht return on Firefly. Quick flight.
 

Nice spot for a couple of days but don't think you could do it with Firefly timing on the same day.

On 6/8/2024 at 12:18 PM, BaanOz said:

Yes both Thai passport and ID are different to Aussie. Have just sent a message to see what the Australian travel insurance company say about this.

Just a follow up, I asked our Australian travel insurance company while being a dual citizen, if she enters Thailand on her Thai passport (with different details), will she be covered?

Reply:
Kindly be advised that you are eligible for our international travel insurance plan under the condition that your departure and return are to the same residence within Australia.

That seems strange why the residence matters but definitely back to the same address.

I've followed up with another question: If the worst happened and needed to visit a hospital in Thailand, which passport would she need as ID? Australian or the Thai passport that she entered with.

 

12 hours ago, tosha420 said:

This thread is usless so far

It took a different direction as I had no idea what would be appropriate, not knowing anything about the Thai hospital situation but I found it very useful!

OK so maybe the title should be Thai Health Insurance vs Falang Travel Insurance vs 30 Baht.

7 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

Do find out which her primary hospital under the  scheme is. Suggest she register for a patient number at Vachira (good to do in advance anyhow)  and ask at that time. It might be Thalang hospital. In which case she must go there first and, if necessary, get written referral from them to Vachira. That referral letter is essential for getting care under the universal system. 

Thanks Sheryl, will do. From what you have said, it probably would be Thalang.
 

10 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

It will certainly matter if her insurance policy is in one name and her passport (and I assume Thsi ID card)  another.

Yes both Thai passport and ID are different to Aussie. Have just sent a message to see what the Australian travel insurance company say about this.

We want to travel to surrounding countries so I guess exit with Thai passport and enter them on Australian passport so we can use our credit card travel insurance in those countries.

Just to save on Thai visa fees for her! 

 

2 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

Does your wife have a Medi care card BaanOz ?.... my daughter 50+ came over for a visited and travel around Asia took out insurance with AMH   - (Australian Health Management)  This owned by Medibank--her insurance was about $Aus300 for a year.

You must have a Medicare card to access that price, because if anything bad happens to you---then its just stabilizing and returning you to Oz.   

Get a quote   https://ahm.com.au/

Yes she Medicare and and has health insurance in Australia with HCF. Actually, used to have AHM too 

We have been using credit card insurance that uses "Cover More" and is. free for 12 months except if we pay extra for her pre-existing condition which we have done.

I think I'll have to contact them to see if she would be covered if entering on her new Thai passport (which has different details to her Australian). Otherwise we might use the Thai universal.

10 hours ago, Lorry said:

If she can get into Vachira through the 30B- scheme, that would be good enough.  Bangkok Phuket Hospital isn't necessarily so much better,  especially when it comes to pancreatic surgery. 

Thanks, good to know. Hopefully no more surgery.

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I have never seen an Australian travel insurance policy,  but I can tell you that European travel insurances do cover trips into one's country of nationality.  It was not always like this,  iirc the law was changed after a law suit (i could be wrong here). It's definitely a good idea to look into it more closely. 

I've been using our credit card insurance (has up to 12 months cover) and have just checked the pds and can't find anything NOT covering trips into ones own country of nationality.

Happy to continue to use that but her Thai passport name is different to her Australian passport and not sure if that matters to the insurance company.

12 hours ago, Sheryl said:

 

in Phuket, Vachira Hospital was recently upgraded to regionsl status. But you'd gave to find out if she can register there under the 30 baht scheme or has to go through one of the community hospitals. If the latter, she can still use Vachira but only if referred. (to use it for free, thay is. She can slways use it on a self pay basis). 

Thanks Sheryl, we have never needed to know about this until now since she'll be coming on her Thai passport. Thinking for emergencies as she will continue with her specialist in Sydney for her existing issue. This seems the way to go thank you!

BTW I think you might have helped me concerning a question about Creon in the past as she has had numerous operations in Australia to remove pancreatic stones.

OK now but just concerned for insurance in Thailand when we visit.

24 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

hopefully, linked to a higher level hospital.

Thanks Sheryl, yes she is registered at the taban ban where we are in Northern Phuket. Her ID was transferred here a few years ago so that is all good.

Just wondering what a higher level hospital is? Is it still a 30 baht one?

Also, how is a higher level hospital  linked please?

BTW she just got her new passport delivered this afternoon. Super fast!

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

180 days travel insures for Australian citizens exists?

Yes but her Thai passport has a different name and didn’t think if she enters on a Thai passport she could use travel insurance from Australia.

Maybe I’m wrong? If any health issues she could pull out the Australian passport (with travel insurance) but won’t have an entry stamp in it.

I suppose this is more to do with Thais with dual passports.

Wife has been using her Australian passport for 30+ years to enter Thailand and she is about to get a new Thai passport after so long!

We are planning to spend 180 days in Thailand every year and she’ll enter on her Thai passport so don’t think can use our travel insurance and wondering what to do about health insurance.

In Australia she has had some health issues and wondering if we could avoid mentioning these to an insurer in Thailand? How could a Thai health insurance know of past issues in Australia?

Also, any recommendations of Thai health insurance please?

6 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Even if for any reason the Amphoe 'forgot' to issue the certificate, or your wife misplaced it,

How many times, nothing to misplace - it was not an amendment.
 

She went to Isaan where her Mum was registered without her old ID, got a DNA test and a shiny brand new ID. Not sure maybe 10-15 years ago.

How this was actually achieved? I wasn’t there to tell you the fine details.

Would you like me to attach a picture of them - haha.

End of story, I’m dreaming to get a visa based on our marriage unless we can dig up her old ID and that’s not going to happen.

Just now, Liquorice said:

Not ID number, that never changes from being issued.

The Thai ID number on her old ID card and new will be the same.

It is definitely possible and they are not the same.

2 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Thai ID number never changes

Correct but she got a new one. This may explain all 😝 

6 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Tabien Baan

Thanks for your help!

Original ID was registered in Bangkok.

The new one initially registered in Isaan.

1 minute ago, Liquorice said:

Now, was her name merely amended in the existing TB or did they issue a new TB?

It couldn’t have been an amendment. It would have been new.

5 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Was this in Australia or Thailand 

Thailand, just before she came to Australia.

8 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

There will be, it's just finding it.

Probably but we eventually gave up.

40 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Curiosity, but by what name is she registered on a Tabien Baan, her aunt/uncle or her Mothers.

Her mother’s.

OK this is the deal. As far as we know when she came to Australia in early 90’s there may have been issues with dual citizenship and at the time of getting a Thai passport her ID expired and it was cut up.

We spent many years trying to dig up her old ID information in Bangkok and they also “lost” her old Thai passport.

I understand it sounds highly irregular but there is absolutely zero link/s between her old and new ID.

Maybe a lawyer could give advice (although I doubt it) but think the simplest solution would be for me to stay here on visa based on retirement.

2 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Possible she doesn't remember and has misplaced it.

It was never a name change on the original ID, it was a completely new ID.

31 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

What ID did she use when you married?

Got married with ID under Aunt/Uncle surname.

They died.

DNA test with mother and new ID has mother’s surname.

16 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

 

She would have been issued a 'certificate of name change' at that point, and probably not realising its importance not kept it safe.

No, never.

As mentioned in the OP there is no link between her ID when married early 90’s and the ID with her mother’s surname and yes she did this after Auntie/Uncle passed away and after we married.

Didn’t want to get into exactly why there is no link (with no name change certificate) as it’s a saga 🙂

As-is because we can’t provide any evidence to link the 2 surnames I’m assuming we can’t go down the visa “based on marriage” route unless someone has a brilliant idea.

24 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

comprehensive list of the required documents

I’m only interested in the marriage certificate as this is the only hurdle to jump for us.