quiuvo

Mario: As usual you are the voice of reason, thanks. In one case the woman demanded a high amount (at least 100K) and she had contributed nothing of financial value. When the guy refused she trashed his bike and apt and then physically attacked him. He then went to the tourist police (I took the report for the TP) who tried to negotiate but she wanted the money. The TP then advised them to go to the Royal Police. I think that some Thai women look at sex as a commodity so they performed it say 100x and could have made 1,000B each time so now want the 100K. I'm afraid mine would make very little based on that logic.

Mario, could we move this to the general forum to get more responses?

Moderators move the topics to their whim, dictators they are. I copied this. Oh , I was never asked if they could move a topic, they just did.

I just increased my gf allowance and people said I was crazy or similar things. Well OP you friend is crazier if friend their is.

No, I don't get or give for free.

i highly doubt it that you dont get it for free.

what b.s here about 95% of the girls looking for money. Sure if thw guy is old and ugly. Then he has to pay do these guys seriously think al guys pay Crazy i get it for free and most thai young males too Things change when you are old and want a younger attractive girl.

Then you pay as they rather have a young handsome nice guy (thai) then a wrinkled old foreigner.

Must be great believing everyone pays just bexuase most old guys do.

Sorry christy not meant for you just that first remark.

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

The percentage I got from five Thai men. You must go Dutch for everything. Good for you. In general, In USA, young guys with great cars and a house get many ladies, whereas the Nissan or ford drivers get the left overs.

"Jeffrey Race is a Harvard-trained political analyst and Bangkok-based business consultant" and that means what? Not Harvard educated let alone graduate. So what is trained?

I think about 95% of Thai ladies are looking for money. Self confidence has nothing to do with trying to get what I want at a bargain price. My ex wife got money too . In USA .

Do you get or give for free?

Well, I hope you keep on living the dream life at a bargain rate.

I have no need to continue this conversation..

Good luck on your future endeavours

Oh, no reply To my above question? Also it's not about need to continue but "want."

10,000 a month was a bargain I would say. Now I will raise her "allowance" to 13,000 per month. Still a bargain. Yeah, no money no honey. I know that. Most of us men must pay for the partner one way or the other.

Are there any men out there that get all of what I get for free? You guys are studs and kudos to you!

Not ever Thai girl is after money believe it or not.

It seems to me you lack self confidence. Instead try and do some real soul searching instead of ATM card withdrawals, you may actually find a loyal Thai girl who is genuine and values your time.

I think about 95% of Thai ladies are looking for money. Self confidence has nothing to do with trying to get what I want at a bargain price. My ex wife got money too . In USA .

Do you get or give for free?

If it took the OP TWO years to realize she was only in it for the money, u have much to learn about Thailand..

O....M....G!!

10,000 a month was a bargain I would say. Now I will raise her "allowance" to 13,000 per month. Still a bargain. Yeah, no money no honey. I know that. Most of us men must pay for the partner one way or the other.

Are there any men out there that get all of what I get for free? You guys are studs and kudos to you!

Scarpolo, sorry but she got back to apt at approx. 10:15 pm and she called me some times today about nothing really. The only thing Was the key. It's crazy dude. Thanks for the advice.

Actually, I see it differently.

He said, unless I mis read this, that, with a key he did not know existed, she just opened his door, and (I shall insert) when she saw he was there, picked up a mop and started cleaning;

not fell in to his arms?

this was a thwarted robbery in my mind,

he is lucky she came to rob him alone,

had there been a few thai guys with her, we would have read his last post yesterday, and never heard from him again,

let me repeat,

with an unknown key, she just opened his door......that usually, BTW, is a crime, in any country

No, I doubt she's a thief, very very few of these girls are, they're on a much more lucrative game than that. Note she could have cleaned him out when she had much better opportunities beforehand.

True some might be surprised about her making a copy of the key to his flat, but by local standards, that's just her showing how much she cares, she was just checking to see if he'd brought another girl back yet or not.

Now that she sees he hasn't, she'll be reassured that he does indeed care for her and only her.

Most likely the greener pastures she'd moved on to weren't as green as she thought.

So he's in a better position than ever to see if he can get her to stick around for a bit longer without just giving into her unreasonable demands.

Wow, I like this one really. After she cleaned one hour she took a leisure thirty minute hot shower.

Actually, I see it differently.

He said, unless I mis read this, that, with a key he did not know existed, she just opened his door, and (I shall insert) when she saw he was there, picked up a mop and started cleaning;

not fell in to his arms?

this was a thwarted robbery in my mind,

he is lucky she came to rob him alone,

had there been a few thai guys with her, we would have read his last post yesterday, and never heard from him again,

let me repeat,

with an unknown key, she just opened his door......that usually, BTW, is a crime, in any country

This is a bad accident waiting to happen......and it will all play out, right here, in the ether........

An unknown key?

No outrage?

Right to cleaning?

have you had an HIV check?

do you not know when you have been lied to?

where is the line drawn between lying and stealing?

wow

Two things strike me here:

1) why didnt you immediately take her to the bedroom, and then

2) after she left, change the key?

Because he wants her to stick around obviously, he's been clear about that from the start.

If he'd had her replacement there then there would have been a scene sure, that's why she showed up unannounced.

What's this about lying and stealing? Maybe I missed something, but I thought the only problem was he hadn't given into her demands for more money and was sad about her leaving. . .

You TV members really have something going here. the key copying is a violation of my privacy, stealing. Also if she didn't come back I was going to spend 2-4 K tomorrow now it may be 300 baht. Both points of view are correct in a way.

I was sad her leaving and now I say I think I will capitulate to her demands, increase in her allowance but not by five but by three K. Many variables as per above. But if I pay 13,000 per month for the entire package and I'm comfortable with it and I get to go see a GIG once in awhile I think it's ok.

Ok, she is not my girlfriend, she is my xxx. ---fill in the xxx---- plz. : Not sex slave since she is obviously not a slave; maid, cook, cultural guide, sex ? , masseuse, devil,s advocate, Also I may be pussy whipped, very tight I may add. Or is it black magic, I doubt that one now.

I'll get some tonight or early morning. Damn men, who don't understand women and aren't able to communicate with them bz the brains are in very separate parts of our bodies. Or is it that damn women who control us, like one red POST above said.

I should let her go after the Big Bang and try going cold turkey but I can't and the cost benefit analysis stops me. S..t

HEY, I should have waited to send my previous email. I was going to watch some sports and the key to the door was inserted and the door opened up. My "x"girlfriend apparently had made a KEy with out my permission and waltz right in! We talked five minutes and she then dusted and groomed the floor and then mopped it! Friendly as ever could be. I'm looking at some TV programs and movies.

What the .... Some of you hit it on the nose. I'm going to be careful now. First about no privacy here y her cavalier attitude about making copy of the apt. Key! No privacy at all. But overall a keeper for some time. I'll give her 3,000 per month additional as an allowance.

We will see how fast you say no, to your "real" girlfriend, if she is suddenly not working, spending all her time with you, and the mortgage is due.

you may speak from experience, but solely; your own

peace

OP, has gf come back for more yet? If not, be glad, but be sad for the falang she is getting higher income from. Sad facts of paid girls. Sorry.

She is not back yet. I went out to a decent restaurant paid 300 baht. Yesterday went to macdonalds. Today I'll hang out with some Thai guys n drink medium. Tomorrow I'll go to sukhumvit for two hour lady. Not the same but moving slowly. There is a hotel/massage place on soi udom suk for two hours I'll pay 1,700 baht. You see TV members, it can get expensive. I'll send laundry and pay about 400 baht. Massage I'll pay 450 with no extras.

Ummmm... REAL girlfriends (Thai, not Western,) do all of that because it is part of "take care". If they didn't, they know you would move on to someone younger in 1/2 a heart beat.

You can have a new girl in your bed faster than she can hook another farang to pay her, but likely she didn't leave you until she already had found one.

Read the posts on here and on other sites about how to find a REAL Thai gf.

Hey, live and learn! It is easy to come not knowing the difference given how Western women act. For less money (wine and dine changes to give cash) we get WAY better 'service' here. But, man, REAL gf does not need money, she just wants to take care of each other. Don't buy what you tried to buy in the West. Only Western women and BAD Thai women are whores. Good Thai women are amazing and easy to find.

555 you sad ones who think you have a lady and not spending money on them. They adore you? They worship you. Bah. All over the world we must give and take. Ten Thai men told me so today. They pay for Mia nois etc. we pay even in a legal marriage. I had a good deal and now I must look again. You guys can spend for short time. Short time. Not the same. Plz don't reply any more if you think that way since you are know it all but in reality you know jack sh.t

OP, has gf come back for more yet? If not, be glad, but be sad for the falang she is getting higher income from. Sad facts of paid girls. Sorry.

She is not back yet. I went out to a decent restaurant paid 300 baht. Yesterday went to macdonalds. Today I'll hang out with some Thai guys n drink medium. Tomorrow I'll go to sukhumvit for two hour lady. Not the same but moving slowly. There is a hotel/massage place on soi udom suk for two hours I'll pay 1,700 baht. You see TV members, it can get expensive. I'll send laundry and pay about 400 baht. Massage I'll pay 450 with no extras.

"Notmyself" I'm not my self these past few days. Let me adjust to what may be a new reality.

I think the OP is winding everybody up....just look at some of his other posts.

However, if I have misjudged this, all I can say is 'never mind you'll get over her'. At least you weren't married!

This post is the whole truth. I don't want to be alone and don't want a hooker, a maid and a cook once or twice a week. Get used to it, yes I will. It's just difficult for me. Not for others.

I have posted some others and I think that is the point about this site, correct? Some post many more than me. Up to them.

I was paying her 10,000 and she wanted 15,000. Actually not bad . I'll wait a week.

She worked for a high tech co for ten years before co left town. She got a bachelors degree and eventually wants to get married. I told her maybe in the near future.

It would be interesting to have a little more background concerning both you and your girlfriend, ie your ages, where you met, is she a former bargirl, are you employed, how long together etc. I think you already mentioned that you're from the USA. I hope things work out for you. Good luck.

I met her at a massage place in a shopping mall. I told her no need to work. She does everything for me. She wants to work but I say no.

I'm happy to see the sunlight today. You TV guys don't care about the results of your members health in general. Sad really because I wanted to ask about hospitals near my apt. Now I'm going to do double work since TV will not advice . Sad.

Oh, I'm alone now. Yeah yeah, go get a soo pee nii . I will but I really want different ..... Bah.

this is another thread guys are taking too serious. op is just playing! a parody of what some guys really do.................lol.

Attack quiuvo, but why? I take it serious bz it is hurting me. Plz get out of here if you don't share something meaningful.

I hear so many stories that start like this: "I've been with my wife/girlfriend for X years, she's great/wonderful/perfect, I give her 10-20k/month --"

I always want to stop right there and say, "what?" I don't get this, why do guys do this? Is this normal? I never had a girlfriend who I just gave money for whatever she wanted to spend it on. Am I alone in this?

I don't just give my wife money. Whenever she wants something or needs money, she justs asks me, and we talk about it and I usually just give her what she needs. Whenever I want to spend money, I always consult her. Yes, the final decision is usually mine, but the vast majority of the money comes from my side, so I think that's only fair. If its her own money, then she can always overrule me instead. Am I the strange case for handling our financial decisions like this?

Seriously, do most of you guys just give your wive's discretionary allowances (either farang or Thai), no questions asked?

We are in Thailand first of all.

When I was in USA I was making xxxx very year and my wife was making the same amount. We graduated from a well known law school .

Things turn out to be this way. I divorced. I have/had new lady wanted money in return for taking care of me and not working. Many people have this arrangement newbee. I agreed and it was wonderful with the massage, food, and things I can't say here on this conservative forum. Now she wants more, simple... I think another 5,000 baht. No more.

"If you're having girl problems, I feel bad for you son/ I've got 99 problems but a b*tch ain't one."

Jay-Z

I know you will help me even with you initial post which made me have a small smile man. I'm really sad and some a.h think I should bend over more. I will not . I am desperate without my girl! Got to bitch about it. Maybe close this thread but I'm going to sleep alone . I'm not that kind. Maybe I will with practice. It is too late to get a nana or soi cowboy partner now. I'll get one late next day, Saturday some are very beautiful but my heart is sick in some way.

"If you're having girl problems, I feel bad for you son/ I've got 99 problems but a b*tch ain't one."

Jay-Z

I know you will help me even with you initial post which made me have a small smile man. I'm really sad and some a.h think I should bend over more. I will not . I am desperate without my girl! Got to bitch about it. Maybe close this thread but I'm going to sleep alone . I'm not that kind. Maybe I will with practice. It is too late to get a nana or soi cowboy partner now. I'll get one late next day, Saturday some are very beautiful but my heart is sick in some way.

Where di she leave you?? I mean can you ask an adult to help you find your way home.... I think you need one!!

Read child of whom ever. She was in the apt and told me not to go back until she packed her stuff. I was with some friends and told her ok. So know she is out of the apt and I'm in. OK for your answer? Yes many other little words mixed in dude but this is not a novela let alone a book

Dam you all! Soo many correct answers and I yet wanted to avoid the welled reasoned TV people yes yes in their own fxxck way you all may be correct. I think maybe when she talks to me 7-9 hours. she may change her mind. I want to raise her $ to $500 per mo which is 15,000 baht per month and still pay for all the extras..

I think it is over. Sorry to waste your time. Now up to me to do what........

15,000 a month is not fun to simply burn because you thought LOS girls were not very smart. She had a job to take your money, and I give her an A for effort. But not an A+. IF she married you in USA, got pregnant, had you buy a house, and then got a divorce and managed to take the house, alimony of 3k a month, plus child support. A+.

What have the TV community learned today? Always marry a girl with more money. And if you will not marry, simply date..........short-term only.

this lesson is free. next one, 20,000 baht.

I now got an A but before your explanation it was a simple B