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My passport is valid until I get the new one so that is not an issue. The problem is that it's full and that I'm running out of time before my trip abroad. Even if I got the emergency travel document (which is difficult as I don't live in bkk) I still find the visa/reentry confusing. Do I get it in the emergency travel document?

Any even if - my non b vill expire 3 days after I return to Thailand (that is if I manage to get a reentry permit and don't lose my non b ) . Even if I have the work permit by then, I don't think it's enough time to apply for an extension of permit to stay. Or is it?

My passport is full, applied for a new one but will not get it in time, before I leave for my holidays away from Thailand.

So will the wp remain valid if my non b expires?

Is it possible to hold on to a work permit without a valid non b visa?

Let me explain. I'm in Thailand on a 3 month single entry non b visa based on an application for work permit which I should receive soon. Unfortunately, due to some complications I won't be able to extend the current visa, I will actually be leaving Thailand soon and returning one month later, probably with a tourist visa, only to leave again to go for a visa run to apply for a non b.

Will my work permit remain valid so that I can take it with me for this visa run, apply for a new non b and live happily ever after?

My embassy tells me that my current passport is valid until I receive the new one. And I'm going to my home country so I don't think I'll have trouble entering it. I'm just concerned about Thai immigration as I don't think I have space left for a reentry permit stamp or maybe even a departure stamp.

I guess worst case scenario is that I leave without a reentry, lose my visa and have to get a temporary passport I'm my home country, come back to Thailand on a on arrival stamp, collect my new passport at the embassy in bkk and apply for a new Thai visa in a Thai embassy in one of the neighbouring countries.

Hello,

I run out of pages in my passport. I already applied for a new one in my embassy in bkk, however it will take them a month to get it ready. In the meantime I'm traveling abroad soon and I'm not even end sure if I have enough space for a reentry permit (I have a non b visa) in my current passport.

Is there anything I can do? Will immigration squeeze in my reentry stamp between other stamps in my passport?

Hello,

About 2 years ago I posted here about hell me and my girlfriend went through to fix our visa situation after we got scammed by a teachers agency. Topic here: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/582541-dishonest-work-agency-visa-problem/

Now, two years later, I learn that a mate of mine got scammed in almost exactly the same way by the exact same agency, same people working under a different name. They didn't even move their office and are still located opposite of Don Muang Airport. Story as usual - promises of WP and Non B visa, asking for more patience, no salary, lots of stress.

I googled the agency's name and the search engine came up with a bunch of complains form other scammed teachers.

My question is - is there anything that can be done to stop them? It's been going on for years and I can only imagine how many people got scammed by these frauds. I fixed my problems with the help of DOL, got my money back but lost a lot of nerves and time.

But can something be done to stop this for good? Any thoughts?

The plot thickens,

I was offered another job that I could perform while keeping my current job. The new job pays enough for me to get a one year permit to stay.

From what I understand from a quick search of TV archives I could have two work permits/two jobs in one work permit. How would I have to proceed to have it done and secure a one year extension of permit to stay?

cheers,

Unfortunately the company I work for is very strict with the rules and I don't think they'd agree to paying me different salary than the one stated in the books.

But assuming they would - can I just get another one year extension in the immigration or do I have to leave, get a new non B and only than an extension?

And assuming the wouldn't - what do I do? Leave on November and apply for a new non b, this time multiple entry?

if the company goes for it, seeing as you are already on an extension of stay, all you do is extend the extension for another year, new mutiple re-entry permit in your PP, dont need to leave the country.

if they wont, come end of Nov, your extension expires, so would suspect you need to leave Thailand and get a new visa, however you might have a problem getting a mutiple entry B visa "locally" in SEA a lot of places will only hand out a single

the best way for all parties IMHO is to pay the tax and get the extension done

As expected, the company didn't go for this one saying it's illegal and they do everything by the law.... Which leaves me I don't know where. When doe's my one year extension od stay stops being valid? The moment I sign a new contract with lower salary or do I get to stay till the actual extension expires, in November?

Unfortunately the company I work for is very strict with the rules and I don't think they'd agree to paying me different salary than the one stated in the books.

But assuming they would - can I just get another one year extension in the immigration or do I have to leave, get a new non B and only than an extension?

And assuming the wouldn't - what do I do? Leave on November and apply for a new non b, this time multiple entry?

if the company goes for it, seeing as you are already on an extension of stay, all you do is extend the extension for another year, new mutiple re-entry permit in your PP, dont need to leave the country.

if they wont, come end of Nov, your extension expires, so would suspect you need to leave Thailand and get a new visa, however you might have a problem getting a mutiple entry B visa "locally" in SEA a lot of places will only hand out a single

the best way for all parties IMHO is to pay the tax and get the extension done

Well, not having to leave the country and bothering with a new visa would make me very happy in deed. The minimum salary for one year extension for my nationality is just 35.000 baht. What is the difference in taxes between 35.000 and 25.000 monthly salary?

I believe these are thresholds for a one year permit to stay extension. But getting a non B is a separate story. For example I know Americans who earn around 40k a month so they are not eligible for a one year extension, they only have a multiple entry Non B visa and have to leave the country (do a so called boarded bounce) every 90 days.

My question is if there is a minimum salary required to receive a WP and than a Non B based on that.

Anyway you will need the Non B visa before you can get a WP. So the company which will employ you have to give you all necessary documents so you can and you have to travel outside Thailand and apply for a Non Imm B visa at an Embassy or consulate.

Yes, I know that. I'm just wondering if they will be able to provide me with the paper work, namely - is 25k/month salary enough to get me a WP.

The whole situation is actually a bit more complicated. I'm already employed by this company, I earn enough to get a one year extension of stay and this is what I'm here on. I also have a WP. However the conditions of my employment are about to change in the next couple of weeks and I will be getting less money (25k) so a one year extention of stay will not be an option anymore.

My current extension is valid until late November

My WP is valid till October 2015.

My contract will be changed in the next 2-3 weeks.

Any thoughts on how I should proceed?

your current extension will be good until November

and maintaining you extension shouldnt be a problem if you or the company is prepared to pay tax on the amount stated for your nationality ie they have you on the books for say 50k/m pay the tax but in reality you are only drawing 25k in salary in practice this is very workable and in practice nothing changes

Unfortunately the company I work for is very strict with the rules and I don't think they'd agree to paying me different salary than the one stated in the books.

But assuming they would - can I just get another one year extension in the immigration or do I have to leave, get a new non B and only than an extension?

And assuming the wouldn't - what do I do? Leave on November and apply for a new non b, this time multiple entry?

I believe these are thresholds for a one year permit to stay extension. But getting a non B is a separate story. For example I know Americans who earn around 40k a month so they are not eligible for a one year extension, they only have a multiple entry Non B visa and have to leave the country (do a so called boarded bounce) every 90 days.

My question is if there is a minimum salary required to receive a WP and than a Non B based on that.

Anyway you will need the Non B visa before you can get a WP. So the company which will employ you have to give you all necessary documents so you can and you have to travel outside Thailand and apply for a Non Imm B visa at an Embassy or consulate.

Yes, I know that. I'm just wondering if they will be able to provide me with the paper work, namely - is 25k/month salary enough to get me a WP.

The whole situation is actually a bit more complicated. I'm already employed by this company, I earn enough to get a one year extension of stay and this is what I'm here on. I also have a WP. However the conditions of my employment are about to change in the next couple of weeks and I will be getting less money (25k) so a one year extention of stay will not be an option anymore.

My current extension is valid until late November

My WP is valid till October 2015.

My contract will be changed in the next 2-3 weeks.

Any thoughts on how I should proceed?

I believe these are thresholds for a one year permit to stay extension. But getting a non B is a separate story. For example I know Americans who earn around 40k a month so they are not eligible for a one year extension, they only have a multiple entry Non B visa and have to leave the country (do a so called boarded bounce) every 90 days.

My question is if there is a minimum salary required to receive a WP and than a Non B based on that.

I know there is a different minimum salary requirement for different nationalities to get a on year permit to stay based on employment.

My question is if there is a minimum salary requirement to get a Non B visa / work permit? I'm after a job that pays 25k baht a month (Not much but there are other benefits, good work hours and stuff) and I'm wondering will I be granted a WP and a visa based on that (multiple entry Non B I guess)

Thanks,

One more thing. I extended my WP already, maybe a week ago and it's valid till October 2016. And it still has the old, higher (over the required threshold) salary stamped inside. I'll sign the new contract soon. Should I bother with changing whats in my WP or maybe I can even try and get another permit to stay based on whats currently written in my WP?

cheers,

Hello,

I work in Thailand. I have a Work Permit, a Non B visa and a one year extension of stay.

Soon the conditions of my employment will change – my salary will be lower. In fact not high enough to grant me a one year extension of stay according to Thai immigration law.

My current, one year extension of stay will expire in December, I will sign a new contract with a lower salary next month.

What do have to do? Do I need to leave the country. obtain a new visa an based on that a new extension of stay requiring me to leave the country every 90 days? O can I do it without leaving the country, in my local immigration?

thanks in advance,

So no way od doing this without leaving the country?

this combined with the cost of the visa and extension makes it quite expensive. Is it really worth it?

By the way, the baby is not Thai, born in Thailand but not holding a Thai passport.

Hello,

Here's my situation.

I live and work in Thailand, have a one year extension of stay based on my Non B Visa.

I have a girlfriend, non-Thai, different nationality than me, who lives and works here and has a one year extension of stay based on her Non B Visa

We have a daughter 2 years old, holding the passport of my country. She is currently here on a overstay after she entered the country on a 30 days on arrival stamp.

Until recently we didn't worry much about visa for the baby as baby overstay wasn't (isn't?) an issue. We traveled abroad together a couple of times and never had any problems. But now we're thinking of getting a dependent visa for our daughter.

The questions:

What's the benefit and how much does it cost.

Once the baby is dependent do we need to get her a re-entry permit each time we travel abroad?

Whats the procedure of getting an extension?

Is it better if we get the dependent on the mothers extension (keeping in mind that she holds a different country's passport than the baby but her name is on the birth certificate) or on my extension as I have the same passport as the baby but I’m not sure if I'm legally the father of the baby according to Thai law ( I think, sadly, I’m not)

thanx!

How does your non Thai wife remain working when you have to leave the country. She has the correct visa and WP? You cannot become a dependent visa wise on her permission to stay?

My bad - by wife I meant long term girlfriend, just like wife but no no papers. And, yes, she works legally, but I don't think I can be her defendant if we're not officially married.

I live and work in Thailand legally, have a small family ( non Thai wife, working, a young baby).

Imagine a situation I lose or want to change my job. Work permit gone, visa gone. What then? Do I have to leave the country? What visa do I get to go back to my family?

I went through this situation a few times before. Was forced to do a number of visa runs while waiting for documents from my new employers, labour offices to process the papers, immigration to make up their minds. There is no lack of different stamps in my passport. And now, with the current crackdown on via runs, people with tourist visas not allowed into Thailand things seem to get more complicated.

Me and my girlfriends, (non Thai) stay and work in Thailand legally, few years already. We earn about 40k each, rent a house, have a pretty old, second hand car. We have a young baby too.

We work quite hard and long hours and we managed to save some money, still far from what Thai immigration or many people here consider enough to live on. Yet somehow we do and quite happily.

Still, I can easily imagine a situation, when one of us loses the job or is between jobs. Then what? No more visa runs, people with tourist visas refused entrance to the country, harshly punished overstays...things get complicated.

Obey the rules people say. I do but still don't feel secure. Go back to your country they say. Not as easy as it sounds, my girlfriend wan't get a long term european visa, at least not right away, and moving from one continent to another, leaving all our lives and friends behind is not exactly what we wish for. This is all theoretical, we are good for now, but things might go south just about anytime.

Hope it doesn't affect children under 12 or whatever the age is that they let it slip....

If you don't have / need a Visa then you cannot "Overstay".

Patrick

Officially they need a visa, in practice immigration doesn't fine kids under the age of 14. Don;'t know if this is a law or an unwritten rule. Now will they become part of the "blacklisting" thing is the question.

If a child enters Thailand other than via its Mothers' birth canal whilst here in the Country they need a Visa - there may be a silent agreement not to charge Overstay if the child does not exit in accordance with their Visa but I am not at all sure of that, rather doubt it actually.

The only situation which I know is true is that if a child is born in Thailand he / she will not be charged "Overstay" when he / she leaves for the first time - at least unless the child is older than early teens - because, obviously, the child does not have a Visa.

Patrick

Thats actually not exactly the case. Even older kids (under the age of 14 or 7 depending on the source - one is here: http://www.thaivisa.com/visa-overstay-thailand.html ), do not get charged when leaving Thailand, and this is not limited to children born in Thailand. And i still don't know if it's official or unofficial rules but it certainly is the practice, I personally know a number of parents who live and work here legally (it must be hundreds of families in all of the country) yet didn't bother with getting visas for young kids as this was never a problem - Immigration at the airports doesn't even blink an eye when they see a chid on overstay, they do however stamp the overstay in the passport. Even with that stamp though, it's was never a problem to come back - I know this from my own and other parents experience.

Now I don't want to argue if this is responsible or not, or if me and many other parents like me should have gotten visas for kids or not. All I want to know is will the new rule affect my child and if so, is there some grace period, when I can actually get my child proper paper work to avoid the ban. Before it wasn't necessary (though still might have been recommended) to go through the trouble of getting a visa for the kids. Is it now?

Hope it doesn't affect children under 12 or whatever the age is that they let it slip....

If you don't have / need a Visa then you cannot "Overstay".

Patrick

Officially they need a visa, in practice immigration doesn't fine kids under the age of 14. Don;'t know if this is a law or an unwritten rule. Now will they become part of the "blacklisting" thing is the question.

Hope it doesn't affect children under 12 or whatever the age is that they let it slip....

Thank you.

So me, beeing on a one year extention, I can get a dependant visa for my daughter right? 

And later, once she goes to school gets her  Ed visa I can get an extension as her caregiver? Sounds cool - would be nice not to be completly dependant on having a job here in Thailand as far as visas go.