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22 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It could be approved by the division headquarters before the 60 days ends. You can check with immigration to find out if it has been approved.

My experience of it being approved prior on the date on the under consideration stamp is not good. My wife has called immigration a day or 2 before the report date and they had not received the approval yet. This year she called on Friday since the report date was on a weekend and they did not have the approval back. On Monday morning the officer called her to tell her they had received it. She then went to immigration that afternoon and got my stamp done.

Thanks for the useful info again. All I can do is try I suppose and if it hasn’t been approved before the 60 days I’ll just have to wait.

thx again 

11 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes

They started the 30 days from the end of your current extension.

 

The IO did say to keep in contact with  her through line after a few weeks as she said good chance it’ll be ready before the 60 days.

is this correct??

44 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Were you applying 30 days early? Many offices start the 30 days from  the day your current extension expires.

Yes I was applying 30ish days early.

so this is the reason I was given 60 days?

Had an issue renewing my yearly extension on dependant visa for being sole guardian to my son the other day also, mine was up country and not in bkk.

This is my 5th extension I was going for and had all documents x 2 ( salary income for proof of income for 12 months, bank statements, court and amphur docs stating I’m sole guardian, anyway all docs were correct but they was trying there hardest to refuse it or find something wrong!!

had to go back the following day with a Thai witness saying it was my kid etc etc.

Wanted my parents names and dates of births, the witness also her families details and their blue books, they was just making it as difficult as possible.

Also got 60 day under consideration stamp instead of usual 30!!

I don’t understand why this year they made it so difficult…. They made me feel like I was doing something illegal, when everything was in order and all docs correct!!

2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

So, who signed the papers?

I can't read Thai or understand enough to be clear on what goes on during sale. Did his mother not also have to sign papers as guardian?

I had to sign the papers.

I’m a single father so this is the reason I bought it in his name , his mother not involved in anyway.

I suppose it all depends on the office and the person in the office dealing with the signing over. I had to show all my court docs and docs from amphur and it took more or less the whole day as they wasn’t so sure what way to go about it, but got it in my sons name in the end.
Also the person I bought the house from was there to help me do it all.

Bought a house few months back and put it in my sons name who is 5 years old.

His name is all that is on the chanote.

17 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

A lawyer changed the mind of the manager at Pak Chong office with a threat of court action.

The lady we dealt with today said that I will get yellow book when we put my sons name in the new blue book and she said any problem to contact her direct.

I stay in a small town so hopefully it’s like she says and no issues.... if I don’t get it no big deal just have to show immigration that my sons name is on chanote for my place of residence I suppose as he’s too young to sign any papers he’s only 5.

On 4/1/2022 at 11:24 AM, davidst01 said:

Thanks

 

Re the bank cheque issue.... I dont think the land office care or have any recourse for checking where the funds came from. I think as long as the foreigner signs the letter saying none of the funds came from him/her then thats all that matters. 

 

I've had delays with my purchase as the sellers are greedy re the price. its a waiting game now to get the price down. 

 

thank

 

 

Hi all,

Just an update in regards to buying a house in my kids name.

we completed it today and his name is on chanote, have to go amphur tomorrow and get his name in blue book and have been told a yellow book should be issued to me also.

I should add I didn’t use my lawyer like I mentioned I was going to, went with person I bought the house from and it was all transferred to my sons name.

Quite a long day but quite straight forward.

thanks for everyone’s input on this Matter.

3 hours ago, KhunLA said:

If successful, while at it, get a usufruct for yourself, 'allow to modify' for life if possible.  This way the 'manager' can't sell it without your signature.

 

What a lawyer says can be done, while paying them and what actually can be done, may differ.   Tried to adopt 'my daughter/village orphan' ????(not blood), and even had mother's permission.  Lawyer said no problem.

 

Checked with family services, the actually Pol. officer who would approve it, and he said no way in hell.  Lawyer would lose, then appeal to Bkk, and lose again, after my huge legal fees paid of course.  Human traffic laws simply wouldn't allow adoption, without a 'fat envelope' being passed.

What is usufruct? I’ve never heard this before.

Also like someone else mentioned can I not go ‘manager’?

sorry to hear about your adoption but I believe it’s very difficult to near impossible to adopt in Thailand with what I’ve been reading and been told, so your not the only one.

I would believe getting a child put on the house name would be simpler than adopting.

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

 

The real answer can only be given by the manager of the land office processing the sale. They are the ultimate kings of their empires.

 

Same for the yellow book, some office managers say yes, some say no. You ain't gonna change their mind if they don't like foreigners.

Yeah that’s correct. Like I said previous reply it’s a small town and getting things their over the years at different offices has been no problems, but like u say if the person i see on that day don’t like foreigners them I’m fkd but hopefully with a lawyer assisting me on the day it’ll make it possible.

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You'd get yourself appointed as property manager (which is recorded on the chanote).

Why not give it a go ......... but don't agree to paying a deposit so no risk to you.

Yeo totally understand mate.

I think it depends on the land office where you are based also, like all offices in Thailand.
I stay in a smallish town and all other government offices there are quite relaxed so I’m hoping it’s granted but i will find out when I go for it.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

A guy posted last month this happening to him.

Full custody, no mom, land office said no when they went to transfer, lost his deposit.

I appreciate your input and good to know. 
like I said all I can do is try I suppose, I’d they do say no I’ll need to look at other options.

Let’s say if it does get approved do you know if I’d be entitled to a yellow book or how would it work for immigration as my kid is only 5 and can’t be issuing docs to immigration himself.

Just now, BritManToo said:

Land office will likely refuse.

Would be different if mom was dead.

I spoke to my lawyer about it on the phone not a proper consultation, the same lawyer who got me custody of my kid and she has said this is the way to do it.

Why do u think the land office would say no but my lawyer says it’ll be fine?

I think she would know more about Thai law, no??

16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You believe wrong.

Kid can own a house in own name from the day it gets a birth certificate.

Permission is required by both parents at the time of purchase.

One parent must be declared property manager at time of purchase (foreigner or Thai) by mutual consent of both parents.

No loans are allowed on the property, has to be owned outright.

The property cannot be sold until the child is age 20.

 

Beware!

Many Thai mothers will not agree to this, and will often convince the lawyer/land office to not proceed with this arrangement. You will just be informed 'not possible'.

I have full 

16 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You believe wrong.

Kid can own a house in own name from the day it gets a birth certificate.

Permission is required by both parents at the time of purchase.

One parent must be declared property manager at time of purchase (foreigner or Thai) by mutual consent of both parents.

No loans are allowed on the property, has to be owned outright.

The property cannot be sold until the child is age 20.

 

Beware!

Many Thai mothers will not agree to this, and will often convince the lawyer/land office to not proceed with this arrangement. You will just be informed 'not possible'.

I have full custody of my kid from the courts and amphur so his mum isn’t around and has no say in this matter.

Any idea how that would work with no Thai mother been involved?

is it still possible to do what I’m asking?

cheers 

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

You believe wrong.

Kid can own a house in own name from the day it gets a birth certificate.

But no loans are allowed on the property, has to be owned outright.

Oh... that’s good to know.

so the kids name would go on the deeds/blue book no matter what age?

Hi... I’m wondering if anyone has bought a house / land and put it in their kids name as a trust fund?

If so how does this work when buying the house and whos name goes on the deeds and blue book etc since I believe the child can’t own it until he/ she is of legal age?

I’m going to see my lawyer in the next week or so regarding this but want to hear 1st hand accounts from anyone who has did this.

Also when doing it this way how would it work for immigration of where I am staying, would I be entitled to a yellow book etc?

Any advise pls?

Thanks 

Hi... I’m on an extension of stay and will be moving to a new house very soon.

Can any one inform me of what I have to do at immigration?

I take it I would need to show proof of the new address, owner  blue book and new rental agreement?  Anything else?

Would immigration need to make a visit to the new address?

thanks in advance. 

Hi... I wonder if someone can answer my question.... it’s not 100% visa related. I have a single non-o visa in my passport with a re- entry permit while I went to the Uk for work and to get an Indian work visa. The problem is my work used the passport with my re-entry permit to apply for my visa, but I have another Uk passport different passport number which I will have to use to enter Thailand when I return start of December. I understand I will lose the non- o but do you think I will have an issue when doing my finger prints at the airport and they see my name attached to another Uk passport? 

5 minutes ago, GinBoy2 said:

You will need to get a letter from the local amphur, with Mom's signature stating that she gives her permission for the child to leave the country.

 

Now this is a bit of a fuzzy point, and you could, since he's a dual citizen try to without it, but from bitter experience it can be a problem without that piece of paper.

 

I had a very similar experience.

 

My son is dual US/Thai. You have to show their foreign passport at check in to show they have a legal right of entry to the country you are going to, but at immigration, since they are Thai, they need to provide their Thai passport.

That's when things get sticky without that form from the amphur.

 

I spent 40+ minutes at immigration, getting my wife on the phone to talk with the immigration officer, and it was touch and go that they let us depart

 

Take your wife to the local amphur, expect to spend half a day dealing with Thai bureaucracy, but it'll be worth it

Thanks for the reply.

I was aware of the passport issue when checking in with different passports but thanks for the update.

and as you mentioned I could try with just his U.K. Passport but there is always the possibility he wouldn't be allowed.

anyway we will make a trip to the amphur.

cheers

Hi

im not sure I have started this in the correct section, apologies if it's wrong.

Im planning to take my son out of Thailand before songkran with out my girl friend, it will just be the 2 of us.

What I'm I required to show at check in or immigration to show that I have permission to do so??

My son has both U.K. and Thai passport.

thanks in advance 

scott 

19 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

You can only get a single entry non-o visa. Vientiane requires 800k baht in the bank or proof of 65k baht income or a combination of the two, a police clearance certificate and a medical certificate.

UbonJoe is this new rules for single non - o also for  a non-o child visa?

2 hours ago, theoldgit said:

The UKVI specifically advise against sending photos in respect of applications for visit visas.

OK that's all understood.

1 hour ago, theoldgit said:

One of the most important elements of your girlfriends application is her ties to Thailand, the fact she has evidence of a rented house will go a long way to meet that requirement, she should provide a copy of her lease.
The offshore working is quite common, do as you suggest and copy your passport stamps and the residence card you mention.
Include details of your offshore work and the length of your contract, you don't want the decision maker suspecting that you'll be returning to the U.K. shortly with your girlfriend and child in tow.
When providing evidence of affordability, include evidence of the financial support you provide to your girlfriend and child here in Thailand,
 

Thanks for the reply again. 

The info you have given looks very useful. 

Also Should we take pics of the house to show the application people?

And pics of us together through the years?

thanks

Just have a question maybe you  can answer?

we live together in Thailand, I work offshore and when my trip finishes I go back to Thailand and the house we share.

but how can we prove this?

all my passport entry stamps?

we rent the house and it's in my girlfriends name.

but I have the form stapled to the back of my passport saying I'm registered staying there.

thanks