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Thank you again and I think I have the confidence to go for it myself.

In answer to the Irish Citizenship issue. My mother was born in Ireland as were both my granparents. I am an Irish citizen by birth (verified by citzinsinformation.ie.)

My daughter IS entitled to Irish citizneship by descent. It is that simple however I imagine the process is just as much fun as that offered by our beloved mother country and I'd prefer a UK passport unless someone else has any reason or benefits I don't know about when being Irish? Be very interested to know since I might get my own Irish passport!

I just had a look at the Irish application form and it is straight forward. Because she is under 18 she will need her mothers and your permission to have an Irish passport, to do this ye will need to also sign the form in front of a dignatory, probably a consulate official.

What makes it easy is that she is automatically recognised as an Irish citizen from birth without having to apply for citizenship.

Here is a sample of an Application form

http://www.dfa.ie/uploads/documents/Passport_documents/aps1e.pdf

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I don't think it is as simple as you make out.

Unless the OP was born on the island of Ireland before 1st January 2005, he would have to go through a similar procedure to that of the UK in order to obtain Irish nationality for the child before he could obtain an Irish passport for her.

Having first established his Irish citizenship!

See Entitlement to Citizenship

Sorry, that link doesn't open for me.

If the OP was born in Northern Ireland he will be automatically entitled to be an Irish Citizen.

i thought he may have been born in northern ireland as he advised he was born in the UK. If not it is a Moot point.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/irish_citizenship_through_birth_or_descent.html

Citizenship through birth in Ireland

If you were born in Ireland and your parent(s) were Irish citizens, then you are also an Irish citizen.

However, in certain circumstances some people born in Ireland have to claim Irish citizenship. You can find more details about claiming Irish citizenship through special declaration in 'Further information' below.

Under the provisions of the Irish Nationality and Citizenship Act 2004, children born of certain foreign national parents on or after 1 January 2005 are not automatically entitled to Irish citizenship. A child born in the island of Ireland on or after 1 January 2005 is entitled to Irish citizenship if they have a British parent or a parent who is entitled to live in Northern Ireland or the Irish State without restriction on their residency. Other foreign national parents of children born in the island of Ireland on or after 1 January 2005 must prove that they have a genuine link to Ireland. This will be evidenced by their having 3 out of the previous 4 years reckonable residence in the island of Ireland immediately before the birth of the child. On proof of a genuine link to Ireland their child will be entitled to Irish citizenship and can apply for a certificate of nationality - see 'How to apply' below.

If either of your parents was an Irish citizen at the time of your birth, then you are automatically an Irish citizen, irrespective of your place of birth.

So, if you were born outside Ireland to an Irish citizen who was himself or herself born in Ireland, then you are an Irish citizen.

If your parent derived Irish citizenship in another manner, for example, through marriage, adoption or naturalisation, further information can be obtained from your nearest Irish embassy or consulate.

If the parent through whom you derive Irish citizenship was deceased at the time of your birth, but would have been an Irish citizen if alive at that time, you are also an Irish citizen. Also, you derive citizenship through an Irish parent whether or not your parents were married to each other at the time of your birth.

Yes I was born in the UK to British parents.

Any chance that you are eligible to be an Irish citizen ?

If so, then you will not have any problems. If you could obtain Irish citizenship for yourself, then your child would be eligible for an Irish passport as a child of an Irish citizen. You and the child wouldn't have to jump through any hoops to get a passport for her, as the Rights of the Child are guaranteed in the constitution. She would be Irish in her own right, It wouldn't matter what you had done or what contact you may have had with her in her life up to this point.

You advise that you wish to have your child's third level education in Ireland, would you not also consider using an Irish curriculum for Primary education ?

Here is an Irish site, that may be able to advise you in the area of home education.

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