antpet

No one dies from being slashed on the face or body. They die from stab wounds again to the body.

The reporting is absolute trash.

What we do have is an area of Pattaya expensively attravctive, suitable for a late night stroll by the sea and the scene of a viscious murder.

Pattaya.

At least no one was raped and murdered [?].

But alarmingly the dead man was killed by his colleagues. No doubt if it were true the same men working on the same boat. Yet no mention of any police presence let alone arrest.

How cheap has life become in pattaya? The casual informing that he was 'in all probability' so guess work, idle hypothesising, 'a Cambodian.' As if being a foreigner ....... that means 'falang' ...... makes it somehow to be expected, accepted, sanitised.

Enjoy your stay. Another day. And it wasn't you with the knife in your belly.

The crime? Wrong place wrong time. Best strike the Bali Hoo from your list of places to visit.

Why not just go back to the bar and if she works there you'll see her? It should be as straight forward as that. That's her job after all. Selling the beer and arranging bar fines so she can have short time sex with you and any one else who pays her. Then she can hit her targets set by the bar - you know so many bar fines and so many lady drinks per month so she doesn't get her salary cut.

But you could take care of her. Is that what you want to do? Finish her work at the bar; go visit mom and pop; build the house upcountry and live happily ever after. It happens!

Go to the bar and if she doesn't show they'll tell you she isn't working that day. Next they'll phone her to tell her 'some farang' turned up , give your name and see if she can remember you, or get back to the bar sharpish. Where she most likely is will be earning a few more baht underneath or on top of some other paying farang. If he likes her he'll probably be more careful with her phone number. You need to get in quick.

But don't let that stop you getting all romantic over this nice girl. After all, these bar girls really want to marry you and live happily ever after. Really. They dream of romance and many do sincerely and genuinely have hearts of gold.

But there is something special about how you met. It sounds to me as though she saw something special in you. Probably only went with you because she liked you. Di she laugh at your jokes?

You could have found a good girl there. You know, one who's not like the rest.

Good Luck.

Hi antpet,

thanks for yr reaction. no i'm not going to her mom and dad and not will take care her. she's just a friend. i'm well experienced and not a greenie therefore i wrote down not to worry about hanging myself in the rope. sometimes people just have sympathy to each other.

but i fear you not can help me, can you?

take care

isanboer

Do remember that friends do actually take care of each.

Although I'm getting confused. When say that you were 'together short time' I think that needs explaining. If you had to rush off from having a chat in the bar and you only talked, say, for an hour; hence the short time, then there may well be a friendship being established. Personally, I think that's what you meant.

However, I do have a concern that the term 'short time' does in fact have a darker menaing on the mean streets of that wonderful city pattaya. You may not be aware but sometimes it can refer to a sexual liaison lasting literally the time it takes to come and go. A sort of sexual 'wash and go' but not in a bottle. In a brothel, or rented room, or even back at your place.

So you've made friend. Got lucky. Come to Pattaya [ that wonderful city] and met a girl. A nice girl. And now you've lost her phone number. Bit of a shame that as i expect someone will be keeping the bed warm for you ..... as they say.

What language do you communicate in? That is unless your thai is as fluent as the average Soi 8 tourist occupying a bar stool for the two week hoiliday that he stays here. Pigeon english then. You're own command of your native tongue reduced to 'you go with falang.' To which she no doubt romantically adds: 'You pay bar.' And they say romance is dead.

I think we should be friends. I certainly have sympathy to you - as you say. And who ever suggested you are green purely meant how environtmentally aware you are. Not throwing any condoms from the balcony into the som tam cart below. 'A bit chewy this papaya, today' said one bar girl to the other. You did of course wear a condom with your new friend?

As for me, well I sit in a bar and have a chat with my friends, talk about the football, wonder if the no fire will hold in Gaza, even share a pizza. What I don't do with my friends is ferk them but then I could be confusing relationSHIP with friendSHIP. Besdies my friends tend to be people I have something in common with; same age group mainly. How old is this ncie friend?

So, to summise, you picked up a bar girl in a bar, paid for sex, lost the phone number, didn't fall in love just made a friend and then came on here and told the world and his cousin about it. Oh, you forgot to add your real name. Best get that bit in sharpish. And then want to go back to see this friend again when in reality there are thousands of other friends waiting for you to rent them in Pattaya; boy and girl friends. And they come [literally] in twos and threes.

Nearly forgot .... you're not green either. OK. That's clear.

The answer to Thailand's shortage of donors will not be solved by an enthusiastic response from the first 19 posters on here. I think 19 pints plus was less than even the great Thai thinkers settled on. Could be wrong.

The problem, Thais don't donate their blood in adequate numbers, needs to be solved. They shed their blood in some of the greatest numbers seen outside of a war zone but like so much stuff in Thailand it is allowed to run down the gutters from the smashed limbs and motorcycles at the side of the road. Perhaps if collection pots were placed along all main roads it could be collected as it spurts from severed arteries into the plastic bowls people call helmets.

Models from other countries, always a touchy subject, should be studied and copied. But then the problem of trusting farangs arises; being seen to suggest that anything 'foreign' may benefit Thailand; and, not knowing how to solve the problem without foreign intelligence, always has to be avoided.

Then there is the basic lack of health care, provision, facilities, technology, communication or education. Ask for blood and half the country will be boiling a pint and delivering the rubbery blob in a plastic bag, the like of which they sell and do so enjoy in the market. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm tasty!

Add to that the inevitable corrupting influences whereby 30% of anything disappears into the back pockets and you're left with donating a pint into a half pint pot. We could have clinics collecting it. Clinics based in hotels where those increasingly UV whitened and vain thai women go to save money and have their fat sucked up a starw and injected into their brain to make them more clever. One leading pretty said, 'I saw it in a cartoon so it must be true'.

It is a problem and I'm scratching my head to think of any examples that are positive where Thais have managed a situation to achieve a desired outcome. In parliament they are considering genetically modifying mosquitoes, making them the size of herons, and using them to extract the blood.

If building futsal stadiums is anything to go by we'll be receiving urine transfusions and told it'll work anyway - safety no problem.

If only Thais could provide blood in the same quantity that they deliver their daughters, young and fresh, to the brothels that operate from Phuket to Pattaya. The streets would run with the stuff on a par to match any red shirt rally.

Really the Thais need look no further than Pattaya and it's discreet blood doning. Take 5 Thai guys and set them on one unsuspecting farang. Thais who operate car hire businesses at 4 in the morning are experts in blood extraction and the spin off is all the work they generate for the local hospitals stitching up the concussed tourist afterwards. Oh, it does make for a fun filled holiday. The holiday snaps will entertain back home: 'And here's another one of me having 35 stitches inserted in the head wound. Care of Hertz [and boy does it!] Thailand.

That's the same tourist that the sweet and dear, not to be taken seriously Thai PM just promised the British PM would be safe here in Thailand. And I quote: 'It am the thing not dead that show they come safe because have holiday.' Well that clinches it for me. Clear as a bell - end.

So expect to be infused with ketchup aroma from a bubbling pot in a corner, told to not ride a bicycle too vigorously for a couple of days but you can go jogging no problem as it up to you.

What a waste of time.

Really the stupidity of these people never ceases to amaze!

We're not corrupt honest. We not corrupt so we need to prove we're not unusually rich through pocketing the money. We're also honest because we say we're honest.

Yeah.

Where I live is a large new house. A large, modern, flash expensive bew build. Across from it is a resport. a dozen single room dwellings, landscaped grounds, restaurant and all very tastefully done.

Quite a lot of money spent.

So who owns it?

A local, low level serving policeman.

Corruption right in your face. Everybody knows it yet noone drops on him and does anything about it.

Dual pricing any one? After all, who hasn't a tale to tell.

Thailand. Pure and simple. Well actually not pure but definately simple.

Not yet gathered evidence and so no one arrested.

Time to gather the evidence. Of course.

The same time needed to get safety certificates issued along with up to date inspection certificates showing all is correct and proper.

I expect to see a certificate showing a fully working brake mechanism maintained only 10 days ago. Mysteriously it has been removed since then! Must have been a burglary done by one of those lift brake mechanism stealing gangs you hear so much about. The local police will no doubt find the culprit. A single low intelligence drifter will be 'interviewed' and admit he done it. Case closed.

At least the stores owners aren't to blame.

They did everything they could to keep safety number one oh ....... and er ........... safety first.

With all this publicity they'll be having a some special offers with prices to die for.

It reads like a 9 year olds efforts at fiction.

Inadvertantly it highlights the activities of some blacks in the Sukhumvit area who seem to deal drugs with impunity. Having sai that it also highlights the corrupt Police who do not clean up this well known and tourist popular area. It also highlights the fact that the Nigerian Embassy seems to tolerate and condone the activities of their nationals whose drug dealing damages the image of the country.

For example, it is very easy to ridicule Nigeria for its world wide scams and drug dealing yet more difficult to priase the place for something worthwhile.

We know Thailand is corrupt and money number one. Nigerians deal drugs. They deserve each other.

The sophorific heat doesn't help but Thais are incredibly lazy other than the rural poor who work like the buffalos along side them, tirelessly for hours on end. I admire that strength of endurance and having tried it, when cutting sugar cane, couldn't match them in any capacity.

In BKK I have seen organised physical activites that included areobic sessions [which I question the value of] and running laps, for example in Lumpini Park. These sessions are usually shortly after work when the temperatur drops an the day light is still present. However, what has always surprised me is that Thais don't seem to know how to run. They have a strange and awkward shuffle, often refusing to use their arms as a form of propulsion. Most odd.

It is a hopeless objective to raise health awareness when there are so few safety standards applied in the workplace; when wages are so low and hours so long. To expect a nation whose people make up a bulk of 70% poor, 20% middle class, 4% priviledged and 1% elite, to find the time to improve their lifestyle at the same time as struggling to simply survive is not realistic.

Well meaning and well healed social commentators show a lack of reality when commenting on the subject and avoid addressing the real issue of inequality, wasted lives, lack of opportunity and education as well as the endemic poverty that envelops the majority of Thai citizens.

The Uk has agreed to the Thai extradition request. That is the story.

He will not receive the death penalty. That is the quid pro quo caveat that has been agreed between the two respective governments. The Thai state prosecutor will not seek it.

Also, the official pardon, graciously given in Thailand, will be applied in this case after a period of several years. I would anticipate 5. Thereby, every thing has gone quiet and the perp. returns to serve out his time in the UK prison system, while further cementing good diplomatic relations between the two democracies.

Next.

I'm a social drinker only which means when annoying drunks keep pestering me to 'have a drink' I'll accept a beer in a glass full of ice placed in front of me. It sits there getting warm. It makes a puddle. Some idiot will shortly add more ice. The puddle spreads. The experiment continues.

I see drinking as a weak man's problem. The inability to say no, the need to be 'lubed' in order to relax and find a voice. I've also never been entertained or impressed by bar room fully paid up members holding court on every subject and giving thier addled views on everything from art to argon; zachariah to zoology. They make as much sense as binomial theorum.

They amuse each other only when soused. They find each other only when soused.

I chose life; the fully awake version without morning, afternoon, evening hangovers, domestic abuse and violence, full employment, good health and an appetite not only for 3 squares a day but .......... where I started: life.

My best friend doesn't nor ever was to be found in the bottom of a bottle.

So for me it's water. Until you appreciate how good that tastes then you really haven't started living.

I think 'aeroplaning' is something that aeroplanes do and 'aquaplaning' is something that you meant to write about.

My car has cruise control plus a limited slip diff, which senses any wheel spin and reacts accordingly making your ' doubling of the speed' an impossibilty.

In the development of vehicle safety and the application of a new technology i.e. cruise control, what you describe is impossible, smacks of 'urban myth' and is negated to my knowledge by LSD. Not to mention traction control, which you wouldn't switch off in the wet anyway.

Next.

After reading about the german who stabbed a dog to death - 17 knife wounds - I'd recommend learning to ignore the dogs.

Any farang with any gun in Thailand is asking for trouble no matter what the actual circumstances or law may be.

Wave a stick, shout or throw stones at your peril as some Thai will take objection to your actions [ Temple dogs? Are you serious?] and then your life will not be your own.

Think about it.

Carefully.

It's idiomatic speech. That is, it is an idiom.

The problem now is to determine which native english speaker would use it. Clearly, the Brits don't.

I'm going good: is the same as saying 'I'm good' [American] or ' I'm doing fine / well' [ British].

- and so are you: Needs no explanation

by the look of things: is either a comment made on how healthy he/she appears or a comment based upon what he/she has told you.

It is a compliment. It can be used early in a greeting along with observations such as 'You've changed your hair style' or ' Is that a new coat?'

Should you use it with a native english speaker they will understand its meaning.

As I did.

Thailand a hub of home based botched crime, extortion and fraud. As long as it involves carrying a big stick and using it to beat money out of you Thailand will remain world masters.

However, as electronic money replaces the stuff we used to carry in our wallets, then Thailand is in serious danger of dropping off the 'do not do business with' list.

I blame the education system for not educating enough graduates in the art of technological identity theft. If a generation of Thais miss out on the opportunity to commit cyber theft due to not understanding and abusing a university education, then what hope is there of Thailand retaining it's place as a world hub of corruption? Very little I would argue.

We already know that the Russians have cornered the market in credit card cloning; the Chinese master the art of malwear invasion, and we accept and expect this abuse from a dictatorial superpower. Yet the Thais have a dictatorship in the Shinawatra's, a corrupt family who sold Thailand's telecommunications industry to the Koreans [or whoever cared to pay most] and you'd think with such a bunch of amoral parasitic blood suckers at the top that they would at the very least sponsor several hundred computer savvy grads in honing their hacking skills.

Thailand needs to invest heavily in cyber crime if it is going to compete with the Nigerians and their 'plane crash my uncle is National Gold Bullion treasuer' . And yet this is clearly an area where they already lose out through not having adequate English language skills as we saw earlier today when Yingluck Shinawatra starn..gul..led her way towards confirming 'it the financial economy way balance ordinary that the progress'. But then why let verbs get in the way?

I'm still wondering how the New York Times is going to squeeze a headline, let alone a story, out of that one.

No. I think we just have to accept that while Canadians are best cutting down trees and Australians doing something to a sheep they call 'Brenda' and usually after dark and a few tinnies, then the Thais are best left to tea money, crude and rude, even on a grand scale.

It's not rocket science to figure just what is keeping Shinawatra number 1 out of the country. The cross hairs landing on his chest would be as certain as grease following palm, although in reality I envisage a large ticking object being under him and most every one else within a hundred yard radius. It's certainly not brains that are ticking away in Thailand.

So there we are back to big sticks, rude an crude, and light years from anything as sophisticated as a keyboard, a plan and an untraceable electronic transfer.

Well that's OK then.

There's a democracy, har earned and fragile, and the Army take to the streets when there is a protest and invoke a special law that prevents people democratically protesting.

And the people are told not to worry.

But worry about what exactly? the fact that their hard earned democratic rights are being swept away by a coup crazed military dictatorship kept only in place as long as the pay offs are high enough, the public profile flattering enough and the nepotism strong enough to reward even their third cousin twice removed on their grandfather's side, who is currently serving 20 to life for his murder of 15 infant school children, ploughed down at a bus stop when he dropped the yaba tab into his lap.

Sounds about right.

But don't worry. The army won't be indiscrimantely shooting into the crowd at defenceless women and children. No. The media controlled publicity will explain that the women and children were carrying dangerous missiles made out of tap gai skewers, ice cream cones and the potentially lethal large foam hand that could be used to suffocate those soldiers who were only doing their duty.

The same duty that saw 80 killed when suffocated in a locked container they were being detained in. That suffocation just goes to show how lethal those foam hands can be. It wasn't the lack of air then and the baking temperature. No. It was the foam hands they were wearing that slipped over their air ways and cuased death by misadventure.

It seems that life and death in Thailand is not so muuch an adventure as a mis-adventure for any one foolish enough to venture onto the captal's streets and exorcise their democratic right to peaceful protest.

Armed with banners, ice creams, liver on a stick [a very small stick] is a riot waiting to happen, as every military General with the IQ of a mosquitoe and the same desire to draw blood at every opportunity.

At least we're grateful these generals are ignorant, backward, ill-educated thugs; imagine if they had brains. Then they'd be really dangerous and Magodishu [when is the next flight?] would seem as attractive as the Dordoigne in Spring.

As a trained and very experienced motorcyclist [owner of large bikes]. European Tour rider and Advanced qualified I feel able to comment on riding botth in Pattaya and Thailand.

Having been a resident of Pattaya for many years I never rode a motorcycle there. The reason was that it was simply unsafe. Thais have their own approach to riding and great tollerance of what we would perceive to be errors, arrogance and intimidation by other road users. The commonly accepted norms of not going against the flow of traffic, under taking, u-turning, cutting in, are not applied here.

Hence, you are at risk, unable to predict actions logically and also the effect of defensive riding is diminished. Frankly, you are an accident waiting to happen and in pattaya they come along like taxis: don't worry, you'll see another in a minute. Add to the mix that motorcyclists do not wear protective clothing, shoes, gloves or helmets. The plastic bowls sold as 'helmets' meet no safety standards.

You only need to look at the knees of any bar girl to see a road map of scars acquired since she was a child. Worse, there are terrible and hideous injuries to be seen quite commonly. Beyond that there are the corpses. Most worryingly is the lack of medical response. Well meaming Thais throwing you [literally] into a pick up following an accident without applyinga neck brace or carrying out a simple examination - remember, they don't spek your language adequately to ask 'where does it hurt?' - lweaves you at risk of paralysis and most definately a worsenning of the original injury.

Financially, you are vulnerable because the Thai attitude to an accident is to seek compensation immediately. The Police also respond in this manner and demand that you pay on the spot. This is despite you being the victim and not at fault.

Just to add the anecdotal examples to the full, i have known farangs killed through no fault of their own; brain damaged survivors; crippled survivors; walk away wounded; lucky unhurt.

You can not expect to be able to avoid injury when motorists do not have licenses; have never recieved training; are under age; are drunk; are on drugs; are simply incapable of ever ridinga motorbike safely.

Just to cheer you up further .................... I was once walking on a deserted Pattaya Soi. In the distance a motorcycle appeared heading at speed, say 70 kph, towards me. The underage 15 year old girl, panicked, lost control of the bike, fell off, yet the bike continued upright. It was coming straight at me. I chose to step to my left and the bike veered marginally to the right. It missed me by inches yet threw a hail of grit over me as it smashed into a tree.

The Polcie arrived and asked for 10 k baht. I called a lawyer. Two arrived. Despite this I was to be detained at the police station unless I paid compensation to the girl. A girl who got the bike the day before and had crashed it already. She was simply unfit to ride a motorbike. I paid 3k baht to avoid being locked up for taking a walk and witnessing the accident.

That is Pattaya.

Out of there and in the quieter regions known as 'up country' it is a marginally different matter. The roads are empty due to the rural poor not owning vehicles to any extent. Driving is safer due to reduced vehicles. Here I use a motor bike, tour and travel at a speed that can still negotiate and react to pot holes, emerging animals, slow moving farm trucks and the genrally poor driving seen everywhere. Defensive riding is much more effective due to reduced volumes of vehicles at all times.

In all honesty, ask yourself when you see good driving. If you can not assess that, then you should not be driving full stop. In my case I do not see the simple mirror, single, manouvre operation used by other road users. It is as basic as that. And without the most simplistic of methods being applied then the chances of accident are multiplied disproportionately.

You can not ride / drive and avoid these people. You are out numbered by them. The argument that speed can save you is an erroneous one as the fact is it will simply propel you towards a greater injury.

The general lack of standards and application of the law that prompts people to ask ' I can't ride a bike - should I get one?' deserves ridicule. By all means, go ahead. But accept the consequences. My good freind was wiped out - dead by broken neck - when a car emerged from a 'T' junction without stopping first. He never knew what hit him. Dead at 42. He'd popped out to Tops for some fried fish for dinner. Dead before he reached Sukhumvit Rd. The car driver wasn't drunk or drugged but he was Thai, without a licence and without due care.

He said that if the foreigner hadn't come to Thailand it wouldn't have happened. His own fault then.

At least the Rangers are trying, and I imagine the threat to their well being is very real. Good on their boss for standing by them and accompanying them when they go out. With this sort of publicity, maybe, just maybe a difference will be made. If even one animal is saved, it's a giant step in the right direction.

They should let the rangers shoot the poaching bstards on site. That'd stir things up.

The inevitability of that is that it will happen.

Fire with fire if there is no justice.

The gathering of evidence is woefully inadequate and the opportunity to simply shoot someone deep in a forest with no chance of being caught is an option for the concerned rangers. It may becoem a consideration for the disgruntled ranger.

It would be quite easy to turn their guns on themselves and therefore make it look like a mass shoot out by a hunting party upon their own. The wondeful Thai police would explain the event as ' a personal conflict' or ' a business conflict' or even ' a drunken fall out.'

Whatever.

Unless the rule of law is enforced then eventually decent people, and particularly highly motivaed animal lovers, will take the law into their own hands.

Personally, with the rotten state of Thai society, I can not understand why vigilanteism is not wide spread, as clealry the justice system fails olrdinary Thais.

The rule of law must succeed and wrong doers, irrelevant of status, must be prosecuted.

But this is Thailand so let's have a bit of shoot 'em up in the hidden depths of some forest - and would any of us miss some scum cop and his animal killing mates?

Dumb and dumber do security.

I love it when we have 'foreigners' - eastern Block scum bags - trying to muscle in on Thai cultural heritage. In Pattaya, a place known for being totally corrupted from top [wherever that is] to bottom [ the street], I love the idea that something as well honed as 'protection' can be undertaken by any foreigner.

It is accepted knowledge that every boy in brown chisels money from every street vendor at every oportunity. The tea money scams of 'helmet stoppage' are merely the visualisation of a racket that includes every living, breathing business in Pattaya. Too often have I heard of the police turning up and sitting in foreign business premises shortly after start up and waiting to be paid off!

Ask yourself why Carrefour pulled the plug.

Worse, I remember the tale of the large motorcycle business, ex-pat owned, where they simply arrested him and put him in the cells. He refused to pay the 200 k demanded and so they left him there. He stuck it out for 2 weeks then paid, plus the extra 50k for making them wait! After that they hit him again. Another arrest but this time he fronted up 50k and they let him walk. But even that wasn't enough as he then made a point of annually servicing and repairing a top cops family motorbikes all free of charge. But it still doesn't end there ............. to ensure his liberty, he annually visited the station, handed over 2 bottles of scotch, sat and chewed the fat with same top cop and left graciously.

That's what it took in Pattaya. I was there when he told that story shortly after selling up and leaving Thailand.He'd built up a large and successful business that was targetted by the endemic protection racket operated by the Thai police in pattaya.

Protection is an institutionalised industry run by franchised mafia with the involvement of and consent from the current police. The same police who get shipped out from Bnagkok and dumped in all the Thai up country backwaters in an attempt to end the Pattaya corruption. it's so bad that real law enforceforcement only happens when a cohort of Bangkok police are secretly dispatched to pattaya to make an arrest. The local force is all too interested in graft and pay offs to enforce the law. Pattaya is seen as a gravy train; make as much as you can while posted there and then cut an run. You'll never be allowed back by the Bangkok authorities as they know you are corrupt but without punishing anyone one; without facing the fact that the police are totally rotten; then, nothing will ever improve.

Therefore, foreigners can not work in the protection industry in Thailand. The exceptions are when the few legitimate foreign businesses fall foul of their fellow country men who operate only with sleeping partners who wear brown uniforms.

That explains the widespread presence of Russians in pattaya. The self same Russians that Wikileaks reported as being of concern to the US as their activities are merely a front for money laundering to fund organised crime and terrorism. That is just below the surface in Pattaya.

The misguided, unaware decent tourists who do visit the place are a veneer's depth from serial criminals and the consequences of crossing them.

To support this thesis with fact I refer to the Dutch estate agent who was assassinated by a contract killer during the two day period when associated criminals were executed in Holland. It made round the world headlines as major drug dealers were killed by their own. One of the career criminals was here in pattaya, fronting as an estate agent, selling new build estate properties to unknowing, unsuspecting foreigners.

Imagine arguing the point with that kind of person.

It is all organised, sanctioned, approved and condoned by the Pattaya City Hall mafia and the police mafia.

Enjoy your time in Pattaya.

The 'many' word is an indicator to the casual approach to this topic.

In so 'many' things [ 99.9%] we see that Thais are represented by unqualified, unknowledgeable idiots who do not consult the few experts that they have. That takes too much time, trouble and effort. Besides a good or bad job does not increase the money you earn. Only increased corruption does and no one ever got rich being honest; at least on Thai soil anyhow.

These stories where Thais venture into Western topics and imagine they can comprehend actual safety standards are merely grist to the mill. This place is third world. Life is cheap, corruption rules, apathy reigns, never mind is the response and no one is ever held responsible. Thais, as a people, do not accept personal responsibility or accountability in anything.

It is as if the 21st century replaced the 14th and thais suddenly discovered motorbikes for all and flash cars for some. There was no evolution toards wealth or technology, industry or understanding. Like something from Star Trek beamed down one day and they all found themselves living 400 years in the future without the means to comprehend or play catch up.

And so we have the science of seismology, grasped only in 3 universities, being discussed by feudal barons who occupy government by way of murdering, intimidating and thieving their way to power for generation after generation. Even the US mafia tried to legitimise itself byway of business fronts in order to launder money. Here no one cares where the money comes from as long as you have it.

Unfortunately, for the Thais they are found out in their incompetence when they have to open their mouths and explain themselves. Hence we have no stats that stand up; merely the use of that vague word 'many.'

There are laws as there are planning regs, but anyone with a grain of sense knows they are circumvented, never applied, not necessary. Buildings are thrown up, stuffed with little red bricks, cement is substandard, concrete incorrectly mixed intentionally and pay offs made.

As I've always said you have to accept that Thais do this ultimately to themselves. That is the real beauty of their art. We can comment all we like but in reality it is their country and their people that they harm. We do know better but we are not to be listened to due to the inherent racist nature of Thais, who are told how superior they are. Hitler had Goerbels belting out the propaganda to convince a generation. Thais have each other, media brain washing, an Orwellian society, streets lined with informants and a people who are trapped in 'their place' without hope or aspiration.

If Hitler had got anywhere near that we'd all be speaking German and eating bratwurst.

The concrete and the clay will crumble and no one will bat an eye.

Thailand.

Hopefully the facts will be revealed in the fullness of time to expose what really happened and put the family angst to rest. What a horrible shock to lose sisters from the same family. A tragedy I cannot imagine how one would cope with.

Sisters tend to come from the same family in my experience. Brothers too.

It's a natural phenomena found in breeding. That is, a male and a female have off spring. Those offspring are then related. It even occurs when male female are born. So you could have a brother and sister related. That is, from the same family. Family is a term given for a group who happen to be related. they tend to live together, adopting roles such as parent / child. The children in such families then relate to each other as brother / sister etc.

Hope that helps.

How old and still needing to ferk prostitutes as soon as his wife is away?

He could be dead at any time he's so old but living the life he clearly missed out on when much younger will only hasten the early grave.

Silly old fool.

The figures are totally unbelievable and the stupidity of bar staff and owners would be off the scale if any of this were ture.

Yes, there may well be a scam but it is impossible to run up any 'credit' in any bar, where you simply turn up and start ordering.

Fiction.

This story is similar to others where a large majority of Thais inflict serious injury on a lone foreigner.

That is the fact of the matter.

It is alledged that the Brit had a knife. It is not a proven fact.

We can be sure that the Police will do a poor impersionation of investigating the fracas. It is also clear the farang will be held responsible for being beaten by 5 Thai men. Also, the Thais will not be found.

It does underline both the constantly present danger and volotile nature of vengeful, racist an cowardly thais who never decline the opportunity to attack a vulnerable foreigner visitor. A guest in the country, a tourist and someone to be treated as a target for scams, muggings and assault.

It is a disgrace.

It is also the way it is.

At the same time as the Thai authorities are trying to cover up the rape of young woman in Krabbi, we have this serious assault. Cameron meets with the Thai Premier who promises protection of tourists. The timing is perfect and I hope the British press cover both stories on the same page.

I hope the poor victim recovers and returns home never to return to this thrid world hell hole; when it goes wrong it is beyond redemtion.