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7 hours ago, Rhys said:

I'm told, by a friend who was a teacher at a university,  in his classes, there would be each term or year, a transgender male/women.  According to him, the TG student would dress up as the female, go through the appropriate behavioral and physical changes and looked stunning and the teacher was challenged to differentiate the physical tells.  The TG students were on task

 

Sadly, they would be some point in the term the TG would come to class, face cover with bruises and wearing big  sunglasses covering an apparent beatings; then,  later the TG student would drop out of school. 

 

Can only guess the cause, sad outcomes..

 

Fantasy nonsense.

10 hours ago, ThaiCitizen said:

76 likes for a racist calling Thai people imbeciles. How very sad.

 

Two words, "go home".

 

Live in you miserable dreary countries on a pittance and leave the Thais alone. let us who love this country get on with being here.

 

I'm sick of the ignorant, racist posting here by miserable pensioners who never even try to integrate with the locals bar saying , "tee rak" and "boom boom you".

What do you know about racism, ThaiCitizen?

What exactly is a citizen anyway, according to you? That's rhetorical, I couldn't bear the tedium of your answer.

 

But onto the main course...

 

"They are imbeciles" means, according to you and your fascist, pseudo-liberalism, that farmers, somtam sellers, motorbike taxis and anyone else with Thai citizenship is directly responsible for how Thailand operates. It is your nonsense, bias, deceit, lack of insight or denial of reality that equates governance with race.

 

You're sick of [whatever] are you? Yet you still come here and read it. That in itself narrows down my above list of potential reasons why you think giving a damn about Thailand is racist. You know, the only interesting thing about you is you're a younger version of the usual twerp: your sort doesn't usually slag off pensioners. Anyway, my money's on you're an Alright Jack.

 

On 2/24/2017 at 9:22 AM, mikebell said:

Such laws are mediaeval and serve only to cement Thailand's place in the lower echelons of civilised countries.  Why nobody in Government can see this is mystifying; ditto house ownership; police corruption; traffic mayhem.

I think they can see it, they're just too dirty to do anything about it.

Ah, filthy Thailand and it's lack of honour and dignity again.

17 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Despite the Live8 / Comfortably Numb cameo at Water's Wall mutual favours, there is likely still much animosity between the pair. Waters was a pig, and actually surprised Mason made up with him.

Post-Syd Floydie myself. Love it all but, having grown up with it, Wish You Were Here is very special for me. Earl's Court '94... sublime! Consider myself very fortunate to have seen them, albeit minus Waters.

I'll get down there if I'm in UK.

 

I saw them at Earl's Court in '94 too. I saw them at Maine Road (Man City's old ground) prior to that. I also saw Roger's K.A.O.S tour.

 

Mason and Waters always were the most tight since they were youths, until Mason decided to carry on with Gilmour in the 80s. Waters doesn't seem to hold that against him (having ate some humble pie) which is probably why that surprise Waters-on-Mason reconciliatory beach massage worked out, 'cos (imo) Mason always was the true essence of the Floyd since the start, dirty slut, we can thank him for being there.

 

He and Waters could easily do their own version of Momentary Lapse.. (ie. what's currently left of Floyd trying to do Floyd, or thereabouts), but (imo) no Mason, no Floyd...

 

Only...

 

"An Evening With Gilmour-Waters"

"An Evening With Waters-Gilmour"

 

 

Hm, nevermind.

 

 

 

Anyway,

 

Shine on you collector of cars!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/21/2017 at 9:34 PM, bannork said:

That is a tremendous post Squeegee, full of useful information. It's always interesting for die-hard fans how riffs, musical phrases left aside, became other songs later.

For myself, growing up in Rutland county in the late '60s and early 70s, the beauty of those early Floyd albums resonated so much with the times and wonderful landscape in the summer. Cirrus Minor for example  could be set in any field or indeed in any graveyard in the region. Lie back in the grass and Grantchester Meadows takes over.

And the energy of all the early albums. After hearing the version of Astronomy Domine on Piper, what 14 year old could resist the superb version on Ummagumma.?

Oh, how I wished to be one of the roadies on the back sleeve of that album.. You mention Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast  -'Breakfast in Los Angeles, Alan with his London accent- I like marmalade, toast,'  

We used to imitate Alan in our boarding school- ' Breakfast in Rutland, burnt toast, dry porridge, tepid tea!.'

We used to listen and envy,. God, our middle-class school sounded so staid compared to this wonderful music, free and crossing class barriers.

Meddle and One of these Days- just so good.

 

Their pastoral stuff always appealed to me the most. Fat Old Son and the like. You're right it could have been any field anywhere really. They made me dream and inspired me to realise it.

It wasn't so much the materialism or money, it was the simple late summer sun shining down on a hillside, strumming my guitar except brown was the colour of her eyes and I actually got to live that dream in the summer of '95 (not '68, the year I was born!)

 

 

On 2/20/2017 at 7:42 AM, bannork said:

I've got to agree with you Squeegee regarding '69-72. a what a phrase- 'thrashing around creatively '- there was a lot of variety in the songs in those years.

After the monster success of DSOTM it was Water's structured concepts, great in themselves but somewhat more predictable. But as Roger says, ' I didn't want to dominate the band but no-one else brought anything to the table.'

 

I have a collection of recordings from throughout their career, but I have a lot from their '69-'72 period.

 

The Man & The Journey was their first real concept suite, from just a few performances in '69. Much of it was tracks like Julia Dream renamed with added sections like where they stopped playing their instruments to have tea with their crew on stage as part of the performance (The Man suite).

 

There is a Christmas concert from 1970 when they were touring Atom Heart Mother. Careful With that Axe and Embryo were standards during that time, but on this night in Birmingham, UK, for Christmas they performed Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast as a one-off.

 

 

February '72 Rainbow Theatre, performing The Eclipse Suite For Assorted Lunatics, nearly a year before Dark Side was actually released, and featuring some completely different material, such as The Morality Section that was later changed to The Great Gig In The Sky or The Travel Section that later became Any Colour You Like - these are completely different tracks. This early version of DSotM is a completely different animal, it's fascinating and any fan of the band or that album should check it out.

 

 

The (unoffically released) Zabriski Point Sessions encapsulated much of my ideal Floyd, shame they messed about so much over the music because it was some of the very best post-Syd/pre-Dark Side period stuff without all the concepts or politics: the 4 Floyds at their most musical.

Come In Number 51, Your Time Is Up is just a more polished version of Careful With that Axe.. but everything else is completely new material, not featured on any official releases.

 

Think about that: it's pretty much a whole new Floyd album from the classic line-up during the More-Atom Heart Mother-Meddle period!

 

Historically significant, not because it was largely rejected by the Director so even movie audiences didn't get to experience this extra material, it is significant historically because Rick Wright came up with a mellow riff over a couple of chords that was another completely new composition called The Violent Sequence. They really liked it but didn't know fully what to do with it at the time.

 

Unreleased, they later realised it fitted perfectly into The Eclipse Suite and it became Us & Them on Dark Side Of The Moon. Check it out and the other Zabriski Point Sessions.

 

 

Harvested is a highly respected bootleg publisher (a play on the name of their former record label, Harvest) with pretty close links to the band. Anyone interested in what I have been talking about could start there and a whole wealth of free Floyd material you may never have known about will open up to you. Seek and ye shall find.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was never interested in the Brit or Aussie Floyd. There is a need for it, I get that.

Since only 3 out of 5 Floyds remain we can never experience the original or classic line-ups again, and even if we could they are older now, the world has changed, it might be special, it might be just like it was way back when... but really it could never be the same. So tribute bands - or whatever they're called these days - can give us that Floyd from X, Y or and Z period, sounding more like Floyd than the Floyd do (so, um, which one or ones is or are Pink?)

 

I rarely even listen to Floyd themselves, these days. If I want Atom Heart Mother I will watch self-shot footage of their Japan '70 tour with beardy Rick in his skimpy multicoloured shirt playing with his amazing new Polaroid camera, grainy old hand-held footage interspersed with film of them playing up on a windy stage to the open air in Sapporo or wherever it was, and all with that amazing Floydian sound. Yeah, I went in deep!

 

 

But usually these days for that Atom Heart Mother or Careful With That Axe, Eugene fix maybe I'd go for something like this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This:

 

 

 

 

 

Or this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

If anyone loves Floyd, in my opinion they should get on a 'YouTube recommended videos sidebar journey' through post-rock. It might just scratch a few itches for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Share it fairly..."

 

 

 

 

 

Wifey should go to England to find her justice

 

and chok dee with that.

On 2/18/2017 at 5:28 AM, bannork said:

As many posters on that Youtube clip write, Obscured by Clouds is an album that has long been overlooked. As is More, a really evocative album in my view.

 

More was actually my favourite of the official 'albums' even though it was a movie soundtrack. Although Syd Barrett was my musical hero, my favourite period of Floyd was '69-'72 when they were thrashing around creatively looking for new directions.

 

 

 

Money, God, conspiracies, stamps,  cars, John Paul Sartre, golf, fishing, workaholism, Buddhism, cycling...

 

For me it was Floyd that gave meaning to my life from a very impressionable age, when all authority seemed to want to prove it wasn't worth believing in, they were mythical figures from a far away world Obscured By Clouds.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, elgordo38 said:

This serves 2 purposes 1. Do not embarrass the Communist party in this manner by brutalizing democracy in public in private only. 2. It is trying to show a modem of impartiality to the world saying "hey look here the Communist party has stood up for democracy. Its all a sham a Communist party dog and pony show. 

 

It could almost be a leaf out of the junta play book.

On 2/11/2017 at 6:02 PM, natway09 said:

I have grown, smoked (never sold ) ganja in 3 countries.

Used as a relaxant we have found it pleasant with less side effects than  alcohol.

Anything that diminishes the stigma around this pretty harmless drug is a good thing.

Getting locked up for having personal use amounts is just a waste of taxpayers money

 

 

The "stigma" is real and I think it is a very significant factor in developing psychological disorders.

 

Someone rightly mentioned psychosis further back in the thread. This is far better than to confuse things with silly tabloid sensationalism about schizophrenia.

Schizophrenia may be triggered or exacerbated by the cannabis but getting high on cannabis doesn't cause the illness in most people - we have established that.

 

Psychosis, on the other hand, describes very well the effect getting high can have on many 'normal' individuals who often report feelings of paranoia and deep unease.

The natural plant itself contains psychoactive compounds like THC which sensitises people, including already sensitive individuals.

 

It affects concentration - great for creative thinking but highly distracting (there is your case for keeping it off the roads, though not nearly so good a case as that for banning drink-driving, imo); and arguably it also has detrimental effects on short-term memory because it's like anything else in life: too much chocolate may make you fat and rot your teeth.

 

Social stigma is a real problem. It is ignorant and vocal and itself exacerbates mental problems like schizophrenia, paranoia and psychosis. For normal folk who want to enjoy cannabis but feel psychosis from it ("It makes me paranoid sometimes"), if they enjoy it then they simply learn to use it properly.

Whereas outside, the rest of the world is in a different frame of mind to you, if you smoke at home or in a relaxed environment around people you trust or know well and especially if they are into it too... there is very little need to feel paranoid.

 

Being cast as a bad person by stupid people who are dazzled by authority figures and tabloid newspapers isn't easy and can't be pleasant if you have schizophrenia and it's your parents sowing the stigma....

Good general this, good general that.

 

He'll lap that milk & honey all day. Foreigners amused by irony are of absolutely no concern.

 

 

It doesn't matter whether it is him or you saying he and his kind are the good ones - inside Thailand the message is the same.

All you using the good general cliche know Prayuth is smarter than you are.

 

As he says, a little misinformation goes a long way, so thanks for your help there, boys.

This topic really did bring out the whackos.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, slapout said:

The entire RTP are a pox on the nation and all the good people who reside here. Until the present PM cleans up this entire group, ( top to bottom) it will continue to ignore his orders as well as the law of the land which the rest of us follow, with minor exceptions.

 

The good general has a chance to go down  in the history of Asia as cleaning up and eliminating a group which would be like curing a run away illness before it wipes out the potential this country has to stand with or even above Singapore, Hong Kong, etc.

 

What good general? You aren't actually saying anything realistic, are you?

You do realise it's not difficult to see you are being deceitful, don't you?

 

 

 

 

 

 

43 minutes ago, ramrod711 said:

See what I mean.

Uh sorry no, what on earth does the behavior of the RTP have to do with politics. It is about greed, period.

 

It has as much to do with politics as your whitewashing of the significance of a powerful social force in an almost wholly corrupt system.

 

 

15 minutes ago, georgemandm said:

You do make me laugh read what I said if for medical use , ok no problems as long as it is  controlled .

i am talk about the  dope heads , who driver cars and kill people on the roads .

calling me shameful is very  childish by you , did I call you something so childish no .

just called you dr English because you had a  personal attack on me .

No mate, that was me. You're losing count of all the people queuing up to pick on you.

 

OK, anyway, I think I get it now:

 

"...that is my  Choice to believe [...] and your choice to believe..."

 

 

 

 

 

So that's why you were telling other posters to exit the thread: you are special.

16 minutes ago, georgemandm said:

Look dr English you need to go way as well , you not understand I not give a shit about you and that stupid shit stupid  drug 

because I not smoke it , I just had my say but people like that don't have a life and need to push your  View on others , like I say go away that is my  Choice to believe it is bad for you and your choice to believe in that drug.

 

You did not "just" have your say (unless you have tourette syndrome: was that the Drugs as well?)

3 minutes ago, georgemandm said:

Can't you not read go away 

 

Can you not spell, punctuate or use technology?

 

Stay with us, you can be our funny, cartoon mascot.

I would like to see a study on....

 

How many parents who were ill-equipped to deal with their child's mental illness went on to blame Drugs.

7 minutes ago, georgemandm said:

You are talking  rubbish 

but you can believe what you want and I can believe what I want 

 

And you are not talking at all, you are mouthing empty words unless you can say why he is talking rubbish. Since you refuse or are likely incapable of a reasonable answer your posts become content-free (other than aforementioned bad stuff like prejudice and misinformation, etc.).

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Get Real said:

And the answer is always a big NO! Just not going to be a discussion from my side on this. IMO....

 

You don't care about anyone else's views so why should we care about yours?

 

 

 

Admitting you are a closed-minded ignoramus also isn't going to bring much qualification to what you drivel on to say.

 

 

Entering into a forum topic asking to be left alone by anyone who may disagree with you, so you can spout your own views without showing any respect for those of others, and then insulting people when you don't get your own way.

 

 

 

 

You deserve to be be richly carved.

23 minutes ago, mikebike said:

Damn. I never thought of this. Bar owners are really getting screwed. They are also being told when to open and close and cannot even sell alcohol to those under 21, ostensibly because of stupid morals and religion. Why can't they just do whatever the heck they want?

 

Letting them do what they want means never getting elected into power. Better to just seize power and make them do what they're told in order to keep that power.

 

Culture and tradition is no different to the law in Thailand: it can be used, abused or ignored, and literally over night, by whichever pig or toad currently has their mouth at the trough.

 

 

 

 

"...will start next week and last three months."

 

In other words, as usual they have no clue it doesn't matter what they are talking about as long as it seems to sound good to them.

 

How can they possibly know how long talks will take?

Nobody has been allowed to give a real opinion!

 

They are clearly talking right out of their backsides again.

 

 

"Before, during and after elections" and "On the day of love" is just typical style over content. So now we must suffer the insufferable: hackneyed platitudes about love from the old Toads tea party "talks".

 

 

"Your Names Not Down Your Not Comin In" "Not Tonight You're Not On The List"

 

 

2 hours ago, khunpa said:

Criminals often seem kind of stupid though.

 

A life based on bad decision-making certainly doesn't bode well for the family gene pool.

8 hours ago, The Dark Lord said:

Can you let me know exactly when you will be transiting Khorat with several million in the car? Only for security sake you understand.

 

 

 

Alright I'm in. My Chinese Honda copy should get us out of there pretty quick. Never mind the CCTV. They just can't get decent betamax tapes these days.

2 hours ago, connda said:

Since the Trump election, how many irresponsible news media sites continue to promote political assassination of the current US president as a topic of discussion? No wonder Thailand is playing the conservative approach.  A free media has a responsible to not become the propaganda arm of monied interests and the power elite.  A true 'free press' are the watch dogs for the benefit of public interest, not the guard dogs of elite interests. 
Considering the chaos I witnessed from the time I stepped off the plane until the junta took over (riots, mobs, shootings, bombing, yellow and red killing each other) the takeover by the military was a welcome relief imho.  Some people want to act as those the junta takeover is permanent; it is not.  But they are trying to stabilize the prior stupidly before handing the reins back to a civilian government.  Having a press that incites instability again is counter-productive.  Is the junta perfect?  No.  But it is a valid stabilizing force in a country bordering on what could have easily turned into civil war.  Many people don't see the larger picture.  Give it time.  If you are a farang, note that this is not the country you came from!  It does not run like your country.  Nor should it.  I have yet to see a 'perfect form of government' anywhere on this diverse planet.   

 

Your twisted, manipulative perspective is anathema to truth and decency.

 

 

 

 

"Since the Trump election, how many irresponsible news media sites continue to promote political assassination of the current US president as a topic of discussion?"

 

You want to silence criticism and dissent. You are against free speech and human rights.

 

 

 

 

 

"No wonder Thailand is playing the conservative approach."

 

Slyly trying to justify... slyly trying to redefine... suddenly it's normal to ridiculously associate the Thai elite with the plight of Trump cast in some kind of moral light where we all just suck it down what people like you and those you support want to propagate (ie. your own way, not that of most of us).

 

 

 

 

 

"A free media has a responsible to not become the propaganda arm of monied interests and the power elite.  A true 'free press' are the watch dogs for the benefit of public interest, not the guard dogs of elite interests."

 

The junta-shill fashion for facts, and double-speaking them in the hope to catch a fool, since there's one born every minute it's a numbers game like dealing in spam, bottom-feeding stuff.

 

 

 

 

 

"Considering the chaos I witnessed from the time I stepped off the plane until the junta took over (riots, mobs, shootings, bombing, yellow and red killing each other) the takeover by the military was a welcome relief imho."

 

Nobody can blame many perfectly reasonable people for thinking the same some while back. A while back before elections and restoring democracy and cleaning corruption and all those other things became like water under a bridge for the junta's 'roadmap'.

 

 

 

 

"Some people want to act as those the junta takeover is permanent; it is not.  But they are trying to stabilize the prior stupidly before handing the reins back to a civilian government."

 

More laughable tat for the mud-scoopers and vested interests. Told ya', it's a fashion for junta-shillery, to catch a fool.

 

 

 

 

"Having a press that incites instability again is counter-productive."

 

As already noted, your pretense that the junta are doing anything worthwhile for anyone but themselves is plain to see.

 

 

 

 

 

"Is the junta perfect?  No."

 

Again, as if it were a perfectly normal thing to say about people who deny the human rights of their citizens (and potentially anyone else within their borders). Or do you say this about people who snatch students off the street at night because you are scared so this is your Neville Chamberlain routine? I think not.

 

 

 

 

 

"But it is a valid stabilizing force in a country bordering on what could have easily turned into civil war."

 

As if they poppped out of Neutral Saviour Heaven and are not directly associated with, nay a huge contributory factor in the factional politics you try so hard to twist and distort.

 

In no sense of the words are the strong-arm wing of the Thai elite "a valid stabilizing force" and flipping the facts really does seem to be your one trick, Mr Pony, with your zero out of four legs to stand on.

 

 

 

 

"Many people don't see the larger picture.  Give it time."

 

He is a star-gazer, a visionary! Only he (just like his idol) can see....

 

 

 

 

 

 

"If you are a farang, note that this is not the country you came from!  It does not run like your country. Nor should it."

 

Apparently the rest of the world is stupider than he is. No wonder he thinks repeating fake truths will stick.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I have yet to see a 'perfect form of government' anywhere on this diverse planet."

 

And here we have it, once again, that mantra of the morally lazy or corrupt. But he's alright, Jack, I'm sure.