GarryUK

Sorry if it looks like I'm hijacking the thread, but a further question. The GF read on Google that she needs something to say she's single along the same lines as the affirmation I need, I disagree and think she only needs to show she is divorced if she was ever married. Anyone clarify for me, does she need anything more than her house book and ID card? Sometimes I hate Google, all it takes is one misleading post and for her to take it as true and all my preparation goes out the window as she argues I'm wrong.

The marital status of a Thai person is in a central database, that is why a Thai person only shows the ID-card (if an adult). That she is single does not have to be confirmed.

When you divorce in Thailand, you hand in the colorful marriage certificate and in return get a divorce certificate. This divorce certificate must be handed in if the person marries again.

Nice clear answer. Thanks.

Sorry if it looks like I'm hijacking the thread, but a further question. The GF read on Google that she needs something to say she's single along the same lines as the affirmation I need, I disagree and think she only needs to show she is divorced if she was ever married. Anyone clarify for me, does she need anything more than her house book and ID card? Sometimes I hate Google, all it takes is one misleading post and for her to take it as true and all my preparation goes out the window as she argues I'm wrong.

I definitely prefer the options here in the UK with so many different cuts available, I tend to buy thick cut back bacon when it's on offer in Asda. I visited my brother in the US a few times while he was living there and could only find wafer thin streaky bacon, 90% of which was smokey bacon. Not a fan.

EDIT: Sorry, sticking to topic, I never found anything close in Thailand, though the GF wouldn't let me go to Hard Rock in Pattaya.

First milestone passed: I went back to work Wednesday. House is still there and she's not begging to go home yet, couldn't ask for more than that

How did the purchase of the tickets go, Did you send a letter to her to explain at check in?

Malc

Turkish airlines would have been the cheapest for her, but I don't think it would have gone down very well me meeting her in Bangkok airport having flown Emirates myself, so in the end I paid the extra for us both to fly Emirates so when we go to Thailand in October we'll be on the same flight. I gave them a call and expressed my concern over whether she'd be allowed to board if I bought the ticket, and they explained to me that if I paid by any means other than a credit card then everything would be okay, or I could use a credit card if I went into one of their offices and paid in person. Birmingham airport is just 30 miles away, so Saturday morning off I went and did just that.

What is the best way to get a true valuation on land? Don't want to be ripped off because I'm a farang, but at the same time should I really trust when the GF says it's worth much more but the family are doing a good price.

She wants me to give sinsod when we marry later this year (no problem personally with that, no responses on sinsod though, let's stay on land topic) which her mum will use to pay off the bank and transfer ownership of the land to the GF. As we'll (well she'll) only own the land and not the house on it (in which the parents will remain living even when the land is transferred), I don't know what'll happen when we want to build our own house on it in a few years. Hopefully I can persuade everyone to let the parents move into grandmas house when she's no longer with us, otherwise I'll have to build an annex to accommodate them too. Luckily retirement is some 18 years away so plenty of time for grandma to kick the bucket!

You can only split land and house ownership from new build, unlikely this has already been done. You won't be able to do it.

This site is so annoying - it's so difficult to quote just one part of an answer without it screwing everything up.

Apparently the mum owns the land, the dad owns the house, not sure how that works. I've read before that it's quite normal for some families to give sinsod back in the form of a gift to the couple, often land on which they can build their first marital home. I'm not against helping the family out, I don't think they're doing it to scam me, but it appears too that you also see shortcomings in the deal as we're not free to build what and when we want on this particular piece of land.

What is the best way to get a true valuation on land? Don't want to be ripped off because I'm a farang, but at the same time should I really trust when the GF says it's worth much more but the family are doing a good price.

She wants me to give sinsod when we marry later this year (no problem personally with that, no responses on sinsod though, let's stay on land topic) which her mum will use to pay off the bank and transfer ownership of the land to the GF. As we'll (well she'll) only own the land and not the house on it (in which the parents will remain living even when the land is transferred), I don't know what'll happen when we want to build our own house on it in a few years. Hopefully I can persuade everyone to let the parents move into grandmas house when she's no longer with us, otherwise I'll have to build an annex to accommodate them too. Luckily retirement is some 18 years away so plenty of time for grandma to kick the bucket!

So if she can pass the GESE at grade 5 (B1) that'll cover her English requirements for both the spouse visa (grade 2) and settlement (grade 5)? I see she'll have to pass the Life In The UK test as well so I'm looking for the 2013 book(s) already, and the changes that come in on the 28th October will affect us as we'll only just have got married and submitted the spouse visa application.

Just read about the 2 year validity period for immigration purposes so it'll be no good by the time we reach the ILR stage

Wow, I'm going round in circles on the UKBA website. Via your link 7by7 I've found the nearest approved test centre, but I'm confused as to what test should be taken as there are so many different tests.

My GF's general visitor visa was approved so she'll be coming next week. She speaks, reads and writes English pretty good. All being well we'll be marrying in October whereupon we'll be applying for her to return on a spouse visa and we'll work our way through the rigmarole of further leave to remain and indefinite leave to remain, so what test should she be looking to take? Can we do something that covers all the requirements going forward, or is it not so straightforward?

Hmmm, so many people deviated from the OP.

My GF says sa-peek and sa-leep on purpose to wind me up, but she can say them properly. She can't, however, pronounce "dumpling" always saying dum-ping, even though she can say ling (monkey) perfectly well.

I work with computers and deploy many every day, I've seen this happen often.

Some good advice given, but if you've not tried yet, just install them one at a time. It'll take a long time and a load of reboots, but I've seen it where they keep failing as a bunch and undoing the changes, but one at a time has worked for me. Can't hurt if nothing else has worked yet.

Well, this is it, the end is near...

Just waiting for my most recent bank statement to arrive. Have to finish the new sponsors letter and print out the pictures, then get it all sent off to her. Thanks for all the input, both those "for" us reapplying, and those "against", I'm sure what was said by the latter will give us something to think about should we be refused again, but of course let's hope all the extra documentation addresses the ECO's concerns that the relationship isn't genuine (by showing them it is) and that they grant her a visa.

Had a reply from AXA insurance, they'll only cover her for the first 90 days as suspected, so just have to keep an eye on her email to see what LMG Pacific quote as I know they'll do up to 180 days. If I have a response back in time I'll be including the quote with the supporting documentation to show she won't need to rely on the NHS should she need medical treatment whilst here. I'll also be including flight quotes to show possible outbound and return flights she could book. And I think in my letter I'll mention that both return trips to Thailand have been to go back to see her, but that whilst we stayed together in those hotels, I only have booking confirmation emails (which I'll include) for some which are in my name only as I paid using my card.

Good luck to us both (damn, where's the fingers crossed smiley when you need one)

I find it sick and degrading the way that Thai wife's of British subjects are treated by UK government when applying to join there husband in the UK. I would like to see greater respect for individual privacy. The should be no fee for visa, simplify the process and complete in under four weeks.

However they must remain together as husband and wife for a minimum period of time, say five years to qualify for permanent residency in the UK, unless the husband dies or children have been produced.

I think 5 years is necessary now. Forgive me because I've not studied it so deeply yet, trying to get the first visit out of the way, but I'm pretty sure people have posted that you get a 30 month spouse visa, have to apply in the last 3 months for FLR (further leave to remain) giving another 30 months, and then again in the last 3 months of that one for ILR (indefinite leave to remain). Pretty sure there are tests and stuff to take at that stage, and of course there are fees to pay at every stage. Not sure what the situation would be if after children the father was to die before she is granted ILR, I fear she may not have an automatic right to stay even though the children would have.

Anyway, other than to say I agree you should need to stay together 5 years before they can stay (can we extend that to before they can screw you for half of everything too), it's off topic.

sorry guys but garry is not going to take any advice from us if its not what he wants to hear he has already made his mind up,he feels that all my advice is negative,well garry after 30yrs.i do know a fair amount on the do's and donts.you dont seem to answer some very important points thats likely to be looked at,one important one is how many stamps do you have in your passport the eco will definately look at that.

"Been here 30 years" ... meatboy, how do my words/advices in post #166 stack up against your experiences?

Must admit, it's not directly related to the OP, but go issues which may assist Garry.

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David, some of these girls are terribly naive, others are unworldy and uneducated, some are too quick to believe what other Thais tell them (usually BS), such as my husband gives my X per month, some of them are also emotionally immature, they maybe 25 but have a mental age of a teenager.

Wait until the first time she sees farangs digging roads and doing manual work, jobs many Thais consider beneath them in Thailand.

Next up English skills, I have talked to Thai girls in Thai down the pub, they are bored out their minds because they cant communicate, the girl cant communicate to the farang why she doesnt want to socialise with him and his friends, he ends up giving up his friends and soon the only friends he has are farangs married to Thais, this way the girl can talk Thai to other Thais, the farang ends up becoming nothing more than a taxi driver for his wife.

It may come as a shock to many, some of these girls cant even cook Thai food, they think you just walk out onto the street and buy it, some of these girls have never used a washing machine in their life, others think you will have a maid to do household chores.

Believe me you will need the patience of a saint.

I knew a guy who took a girl to the UK on a visit, she damn near bankrupted him, couldnt cook, would only eat Thai or Chinese takeaways twice a day, spent all day on the phone to the family whilst the guy was at work.

Etc etc.

English skills or lack of is the biggest problem

A fair post "rgs"...

I take back all that I first thought about you...lol

Agreed rawhod, I was about to reply when I saw you had, I think it's a perfectly reasoned post, but if I may

I've heard the stories of so and so gets 20k from her farang boyfriend but I'm only ever going to believe it if they show me their bank account. I'm stingy, she knows this, I give her enough.

Nothing wrong with a proper days work.

Her English is excellent, there's just the odd word I can't understand through the accent which winds her up terribly, and the odd word now and then she has to type in Thai for me to Google. I've even managed to teach her a few new words and phrases, like when I pointed out how we use the phrase "give me one" I think we were talking babies after she'd seen a cute photo posted on FB, so I thought it quite apt at the time She's far from being a snob but I don't think she has any desire to socialise with other Thais when in the UK. Me however, I think it's a great idea if you can find some nice ones, can't think I'd like anything more than to make a few new friends with other mixed couples.

I love to cook, so does she, she has to cook for her family while she's living at home, so there'll be no problem there. If she can't use a washing machine I can always send it to mum And in Thailand there are plenty of places do laundry.

Garry, just to get my head around all of this, can you answer me these questions or try and summarize from were you started to where you are now on this what seems to be a long journey.

1. when was your first visit to Thailand and how long did you go for?

2. you say you got dumped on your second visit, Did you go to Thailand just to meet this person, like your meeting your GF i assume you met her on your first holiday?

3. You say you made a visit in October last year, how long did you go to Thailnd for, how many days you spend with your GF, I understand that you met her after you got dumped,

4. on your return to the UK, You decided to go back to Thailand (3rd visit) with the hope of getting a Visitors visa, did you apply once you got to Thailand? this will give more understanding on the refusal, Such a short romance.

5. You say that you went to were she lives, was this north east Thailand ? and was this planned before going to Thailand

6. I understand that you did a lot of walk in hotels, so before you landed in Thailand, you had very little in hotels booked

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7. Your GF decided that it would be good to visit her parents, what was your thoughts on this and how was it once you got there, I am thinking about the culture change here!!! (my wife lives in a Village, totally different!!!

8. since you come home she now looks after her sisters daughter, Can i ask, where his her mother and who will look after her daughter if your GF gets the Visa.

9. whats your GF's thoughts if she does not get the next Visa, she must have a lot of doubts on if she will be coming or not.

10. have you thought about, what if she does not like the UK or maybe you and her don't get on and she wants to leave you or you want her to go, what would you do? Send her to her aunt until her departure date, Yes Garry, these are things you must think about.

11. You hear stories on Thai lady's, You will have heard them, we all have, Hand on heart, Do you really know the lady who your planning on marrying? I didn't after 7 months, is she really communicating with you from her home, As she a Thai boyfriend or husband, Believe me Garry, it happens.

12. You talk about your savings that you have for your marriage, But you have not taken into account the expense on the settlement visa, getting her a flight to the UK, your talking £2000, whats your plan, Get married with no plan on her coming back to the UK with you. My wife was back in the UK 5 weeks after we got married and its not a nice feeling saying good bye to someone in BKK airport who you have just married.

i do wish you the best of luck, Most people are saying take a step back and these people are people who care and yes you say that you have your head screwed on, But yet you have missed so much that i and others have pointed out to you. There is not a to do list, Its up to you to do the research, So little things likes showing a Credit card at the airport, I found out by checking and these are the things you should be doing.

Oooo such a long one You've muddled the timeline up a bit but all the information you've asked for has been addressed throughout the 3 threads. However, for clarification I'll answer here too.

1-3 Easier to answer in one go. I met a girl online (no need for more history than that), went to meet her in Thailand on Friday October 3rd 2012 but after a couple of days things didn't work out. Skipping a couple of days I met an English guy who introduced me to the now GF on Wednesday 10th (hence why I think it would be cool to marry on October 10th).

4. Got home and immediately started talking via FB video daily for many hours. We'd start at 6pm when I got home using the laptop while I cooked and eat, then switch to the desktop and stay online until 9 or 10pm. Decided I had to see her again so booked another 2 weeks off work to go back for a SECOND visit over Christmas and New Year.

5. Spent a few days in Pattaya, went to see her parents (one overnight stay), her father drove us back to Pattaya and took everything from her room back home bar the bed. We stayed another night or two, handed back the keys, stayed in a nearby hotel, then went to Bangkok for New Year. Yes the trip home was planned (see 7).

6. The first trip was a fully booked holiday, flight and rooms. The second trip we decided I'd stay in her apartment initially to save money, then move to a hotel when we handed back the keys. The only one we booked online was for the last few days in Bangkok, all the others we walked in to and asked if they had any rooms. For the third trip I booked the first hotel online for 3 nights, but in the end we decided to stay a fourth night but it was full so we just walked around to a nearby hotel and asked if they had a room. We again booked Cha Am online, but just telephoned the hotel we'd used in Pattaya, then again booked our return to Bangkok online.

7. If it was her idea I was in full agreement. Yes they live in the middle of nowhere in a hut. Her grandma offered accommodation but the GF knew I'd struggle with squat toilets and no aircon so made me stay in a hotel. In fact the thing I struggled most with was eating food shared with flies and ants.

Returning here to 4: I initially planned to go over for a THIRD visit during Songkran, and during that visit we planned to apply for a visa, but she decided she didn't care about the celebrations and wanted to apply sooner so told me not to bother coming so saving my money. However, when we started to put the application together we realised just how much work was involved so in the end I did go over for a third time, two weeks earlier than originally planned, to help her with the application process.

8. We decided in November in between my first and second trips that she should leave Pattaya after my visit in December (for obvious reasons), and she must have raised with her family the possibility of looking after her BROTHER's baby while he and his wife worked. They are currently also living with the parents and not currently working so the baby's mother will have to take responsibility.

9-10. If the visa is refused again we've already agreed she will go to work in a supermarket and we'll have to decide whether we still marry in October when I go for my FOURTH visit (it's important to me she experiences life together in the UK before we marry because yes, she might not like it, so I imagine we would postpone, probably for 12 months as I still like the idea of marrying on the anniversary of when we met, call me a romantic ). If she can't come to the UK I'll have to give serious thought as to whether I move to Thailand but she's against the idea, thinks I'd be giving up too much. If things went south in a bad way while she was here and we couldn't overcome the problems then I'd change the ticket and she'd go home early, she has no desire to stay with her aunt.

11. No doubt there's a lot to learn but yes, I have absolute trust in her. I'm not going to list all the reasons why I trust her, but some of them being I know she's at home because we video every day and I've been there and seen it, and even if she had time for a boyfriend she doesn't like Thai men and farang are in short supply where she is.

12. Without resorting to piling it on a credit card I have £9000 available, and my grandma left my mum a healthy inheritance last year which I'm sure would be available if I ran out and hadn't wasted my money. I'm trying very hard to be careful with it as when it's spent it's spent, but should I need it I have a lot of equity in the house as a last resort. We know it will take many weeks to get a decision on a settlement visa when we apply in October but will be hoping she'd be back for Christmas, and yes, having spent the best part of 5 months together both here and in Thailand, and having got married, we know it's going to be awful waiting.

I admit we missed plenty in our first application, but I refute that any of it was pointed out and I chose to ignore it, at least it wasn't done on purpose. Unfortunately I can't seek answers to questions I don't even know I need to ask, so all we can do is learn from any mistakes we might have made in that application, or that we'll go on to make. I believe we have learned from the first application, and we've gathered a tremendous amount of advice here which has helped us reach the decisions we're making now. Are they right? Who can tell, some think so, some don't, all we can do is choose a path and see where it leads. We've chosen that path now (which is to try a second application) and not everyone agrees with it, but for them to say "garry is not going to take any advice from us if its not what he wants to hear" and similar such comments is just insulting. If the visa is refused again I'll use a lot of the advice given by those in the "wait, don't reapply yet" camp, but just now I'm using that given by those in the "go for it" camp. Thanks to all whichever your opinion

Regarding tickets...

Do bear in mind that they may request to see the Credit card that booked the flight. Beano is not quite correct, they saw my passport but still wanted to see the Credit Card.

You could book through an agent, I have used ...

http://www.gazelletravel.co.uk/

...previously.

Are you aware that, for a few Baht more, you can have the passport and documents returned by EMS Mail when the application has been processed. It saves a trip to Regent House

Edit.

ps. My wife has been to the UK three times, likes it, but wouldn't want to live there...

For the tickets I'm looking at 1. Get an email off the airline confirming I've paid and she doesn't have the card is okay, or 2. Book via a travel agent.

She mentioned paying before but only seemed to get an sms when the application was forwarded to the embassy, not when it was returned, and she had to go back to collect everything. I'll raise it this time because I'm sure it'll be cheaper than a bus trip and hotel for the night

As for not liking it here, that's why I want a visit visa first, give her the chance to find that out.

Perhaps Garry could print out this thread and include it with the application!

Sarcasm? Not sure some of it would be very helpful

sorry guys but garry is not going to take any advice from us if its not what he wants to hear he has already made his mind up,he feels that all my advice is negative,well garry after 30yrs.i do know a fair amount on the do's and donts.you dont seem to answer some very important points thats likely to be looked at,one important one is how many stamps do you have in your passport the eco will definately look at that.

I've taken onboard plenty of advice with that given by 7by7, rawhod, tomcreeduk and malct standing out as being the most helpful, and contributions by many others much appreciated. Of course I don't agree with everything that everyone has said, how can I, but there are clearly some people "for" us reapplying, and some people "against". So you're right, having considered everything, we've now made up our minds to try to reapply as, to the best of our abilities, we've tried to address the issues raised in the refusal notice and think we have a greater chance of success this time. If the border agency decide they're still not happy and refuse her visa again we'll then have to change our plans for the future as per some of the other advice given.

How many stamps do I have in my passport? I've mentioned many times about my first, second and third trips to thailand, so for anyone not able to work it out it's 3 within the space of 6 months. Would more visits reassure everyone including the border agency that the relationship is genuine? Well of course they would, but then anyone with an unbiased view must be able to accept that I can neither get the time off work or fund that amount of trips indefinitely, and to go back twice to see her in such a short space of time after meeting her has to show there's at least some sort of relationship been formed.

Air Ticket.

when they check the ticket at check in they see how it was paid, if the person whose passport it is matches the person who paid for the ticket then okay, if not they will ask for the owner of the credit card to come forward, if that person cannot come forward then no getting on the flight.

The best way to get rid of this problem is to book through a travel agent, or send your beloved the money for the ticket.

Good luck.

Not a bad idea, I'll see where I get with the emails to the airlines, but a serious backup plan

Garry, I have not taken offence, Its your life and your money, you can do what ever, but as a TV forum member, I like to give advice where i can, People on this forum know far more than me and help me more often than i give my limited advice.

​like i pointed out, I have just saved you 50,000Baht, If i was not bothered about your situation, I would have sat back and waited for your thread saying, My GF was refused to board the plane, but i am not like that.

at the end of the day Garry, it is your path that your taking and no one should tell you what to do, its your choice.

people on here have life experience of what your going through, I have done 3 VV, 1st one turned down and 2 accepted and also have a settlement Visa, So we have gained a lot of life experience, we are applying for the IIR in September We are focused on that and have been for some months, We cant afford to get it wrong.

can i ask, How much thought have you put into the Settlement Visa?? lets face it your getting married soon.

like others on here, i am also wise on possible scams etc, take for instance, a lady asks your GF at regent house to check your file and telling her its not correct, unknown to her its someone from a scam agency!!! We were approached and told we would fail and wanted X amount of Baht!!!

its up to you Garry if you want to take my advice but what ever path you do take, i wont take offence.

Malc

Thank you, yes you have probably saved me a lot of money. Good luck on the ILR, sincerely.

I thought about a settlement visa but ruled it out. I want to be sure the relationship will last, so I want to spend a few months together rather than a few weeks. I accept what people are saying, it's early in our relationship, but I disagree with some in that I think you can find love in a short space of time, even given her past. To apply for an £85 visitor visa we get the time together I think we need before we commit to marriage, and she gets to see if she can live here with me, away from her friends, and with our weather, food and people. If, as it was, her visa is refused and we have to apply again it's just another £85, but I think I worked out a settlement visa is more like £650 which is not a figure I want to be shelling out twice (I don't think that includes the English test or X-Ray). It's gonna cost me an arm and a leg either way, but I'd rather pay for an extra one-way flight knowing marriage was the right move and that she's coming over to stay than find out after that we jumped into everything too fast that it was a mistake.

See, don't have my eyes shut, the big head is making the decisions not the little one

We weren't approached by anyone when we went to Regent House, maybe because we were together. I'll make sure she avoids everyone and doesn't accept anyone's "help" outside of the restricted area in the application center when she goes this time.

Just a couple of points...

At check in, I have been asked by Emirates, Thai Airways and Air Asia to show the card that was used to purchase the tickets.

For travel and health insurance, try LMG Pacific Healthcare, available through AA Brokers who used to be sponsors on this Furum. They offer a policy at reasonable cost. We paid about 6,000 Baht for 160 days cover.

Following what malct said I will be investigating further the ticket issue as of course I don't want that to be a problem. New one to me but I've said throughout "is there anything I've missed" and it's taken until now for someone to pick up on it. Glad it was mentioned now.

I looked up LMG and will apply for a quote online (once I've told her she may get a call or email). I was already looking at AXA Thailand but they seem to only cover for a maximum of 90 days (I've emailed to see if they can cover for longer). Thanks for that.

Gary, you wrote back to me and said, I sort of agree with everything you've said, but won't be following the advice on this occasion

Garry, you do need a reality check, your going into this with your eyes closed without thinking it though.

You met a lady on beach road and within a short time its wedding bells!!! i asked questions that you decided not to answer, not because i want to know about your personal stuff, its to try and make you think about whats going on around you, because your just looking in one direction and not giving a dam about anything else.

So, lets look at the E-Ticket for the flight, Before i raised the issue, YOU were going to buy a ticket on line in her name, Email her the E-ticket and she would turn up at the airport expecting to board the plane. WRONG, she would be told that she could not board the plane because she cannot show the credit card with a loss of 50,000 baht because she didn't following the T&C. So at this point Garry, You should be thanking me for saving you 50,000 Baht if you had In your words I sort of agree with everything you've said, but won't be following the advice on this occasion

Come on Garry. Read my post again and give yourself a reality check, because i am only Malct sitting on his PC who like you, asks a lot of questions and i can pick many holes in what you have said and what your doing, I am not the ECO who can refuse the VV or a immigration officer who has the right to send your GF home after she landed in the UK who WILL question her, and if she gets anything wrong, Its bye bye UK and back on the next plane back home.

Garry, I can go on and on because there are many holes in what your doing, But looks like you know best, well that's until someone points something out to you.

Thank you to Meatboy for saying about Best Advice, we are a community of people from different walks of life and i seek help all the time and i like to give help to.

Regards

Malc

When I said I agree but won't be following the advice I was agreeing that going to Thailand to hold her hand through the application again would be a brilliant idea, but that against your advice I was still going to send the new documentation through the post. I did explain my position financially and how our existing plans could be changed, but deleted much of my response as I see no reason to get into a slanging match when I say I'm going to do something different to how someone else would do it. With some "for" advice and some "against" advice I'm always going to have to choose one path, and that path for now is that we want to apply again to see if we can get her to the UK before we marry, rather than postpone and rethink all the plans which we'll do if she's refused again. You seem to have taken offence to me taking the "for" path when you seem to be "against" reapplying immediately, but it's nothing personal, I have valued your input throughout the thread. However, meatboy's contribution has been pretty negative throughout as he's clearly been "against" all along so no surprise he agrees with you now. Thankfully there are plenty of others "for" us reapplying as well.

Yes, the ticket bit is exactly right, that's what I was planning to do, but only because I didn't know I shouldn't. If I read in Emirates T&C's that I might have to produce the card with which the ticket was paid for then I've forgotten seeing it because in three trips I've never been asked to produce it. If I've read it in anyone's responses in any of my threads then again I've forgotten which is why some posts back I said I would be re-reading through all my threads before I send my stuff off. But if I've never read it and nobody (until now) has ever said it, how was I supposed to know I shouldn't do it? Now it's been mentioned I'm going to look at the T&Cs for Emirates, Turkish Airlines and Lufthansa to see if I can find anything on this, and email them if I have to. I'm also probably going to start a new thread on the subject because luckily I have more than a month to figure out what we have to do.

Regarding her flight.i meant

Also your GF will need 50,000 baht for the airfare and if your going to buy the airfare for her, She must show the method of payment at check in, so if you pay by Credit card, she must show that credit card at Check-in with you (Garry) with it (not sure if your allowed a cover letter from you)

This is the first time this has been mentioned. I've never once been asked how the ticket was paid for or to see the credit card that was used when I fly to Thailand (or home), I just give them the flight confirmation page printed off the Internet, they look at their booking screen and away I go. I have to say I'd prefer to book and pay for the ticket myself rather than have the hassle of transferring a large sum of money over to her so that she can pay as she doesn't have a credit card so don't know how she could do it short of taking the cash to the airline's nearest booking office, and how dodgy would that look.

More thoughts on this one please. Has any Thai girl been asked to show how the ticket was paid for when coming to the UK? And if their farang partner paid and wasn't travelling with her, how did they solve this?