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Just now, spidermike007 said:

The article is quoted as saying: "We have seen this attitude in Prime Minister Prayut, as well, when he claims the military and civil service know best what the country needs. The implication is that elections are unnecessary, since the electorate can make foolish choices. If they are to vote, he tells us, vote for “good people” like him. Unless the elite and the government stop thinking they are better and smarter than other citizens, we’ll keep catching glimpses of insulting documents like the Khon Kaen invitation".

 

Very good editorial indeed. The truth is, the public is far smarter than any politician, army, or police officer working today, within Thailand. The standards for these people are so low, that intelligence is rarely a quality required for the job. Arrogance is. So, there will be a natural tendency to think they are smarter than everyone else. It is a beautiful thing, when one of them is outed for saying so!

 

I say to the government officials, and especially the two fools at the top, Little P., and Prawit the Nitwit, get out. Leave now. Resign. You are not liked, you are not respected, and you are not wanted by your people. They did not vote for you. They do not want you. Get out. Get out. Get out now!

 

Of course, they want to collect few billion dollars more, before they leave. 

 

 

To be a member of the current "government" stupidity is a prerequisite.

Just now, yuiop said:

In my short experience, yep, I'm afraid they are. Sadly.

But, this is their Land, we have NO right to complain or change things.

Take it or leave it.

jm2c

I think referring to over 60 million people as stupid, is...well... stupid. Western superiority complex.

Just now, Jonmarleesco said:

'Pol Gen Sriwara has committed to questioning the suspects himself.'

 

Over scones and a cup of tea, no doubt.

 
'Firearms found at Premchai’s home, which have been tracked back to the United Kingdom ...'

 

Funny how they can track firearms - so they claim - but are unable to keep track of wanted miscreants overseas.

It's called selective tracking

Just now, Just Weird said:

Why so cryptic?  Are you referring to this..."NACC secretary-general Worawit Sooksombon said on Tuesday that the panel had received a 38-page letter, which explains all the 25 watches..."?

 

There's nothing else in that link that you could have misinterpreted as a "blatant lie" of mine.    If you can specify the "blatant lie", let's see it; if you can't, give it a rest, eh?

You really are Just Weird

Just now, Just Weird said:

Do you mean the ones who were happy to accept millions in compensation?  Whether I would or not is as relevant as asking you whether you would make every comment that you post here to the target's face, i.e. irrelevant.

Yes I would. Gladly.

8 hours ago, Just Weird said:

I make no apologies for anyone and you can think what you like about me (I'm sure you can imagine how much that bothers me) but in this case you'd be wrong, of course, but that's part of what a forum is about and it doesn't make you right or my views wrong.

Would you make the same comments to the family of the man who was killed? Face to face? I seriously doubt that.

8 hours ago, Just Weird said:

I make no apologies for anyone and you can think what you like about me (I'm sure you can imagine how much that bothers me) but in this case you'd be wrong, of course, but that's part of what a forum is about and it doesn't make you right or my views wrong.

Yes it does.... your comments are twisted

Just now, robblok said:

You really don't get it do you.. you can't find an recent example of a politician being convicted of a crime he did not commit. So i stand.. you can't be disposed if you are clean. So if this guy is clean and I certainly hope so he has nothing to fear and will hopefully do good things for the country.

No, be we can find numerous examples of politicians and "soldiers" who have obviously committed crimes and are free from prosecution. The head of state should be made to declare his assets. If he refuses, he should be investigated... but that's not going to happen.  And if you can't be "deposed" if you are clean, what about Major General Paween Pongsirin who had to flee to Australia in fear of his life after pointing out that high-placed members of the current "government" are involved in human trafficking? This was an innocent person who, although not "deposed", was forced to leave the country.... I don't see the government/junta taking up his case.... is it because he was wrong and they're all squeaky clean?

Just now, robblok said:

Like I can't understand you you don't understand me, i have attacked the junta probably more then you have called Thaksin a crook. Like its hard for you to wrap your head around the fact that people can dislike Thaksin and the junta its hard for me to understand that people can attack the junta and not like Thaksin. I would call it even.

But I was not the person who dragged Thaksin in this discussion so please get your facts straight. If you want to read me posting about other stuff.. read the Ikea thread.. read the other threads. I think i post far more then you in non political topics. 

It's not a competition.

Just now, robblok said:

I think you had to go back far too deep in history to find just 1 example that kinda proves my point that they don't make up things to convict people but so if you stay clean you have nothing to fear. They can want to kick you out but they can't. 

No they just make up new laws so they can go after people. They make up this stuff as they go. What is all this "if you stay clean you have nothing to fear" nonsense? You have nothing to fear if you're rich and/or protected, like the junta. The corrupt and dirty prosper in Thailand providing they are wealthy and uphold the backward patronage system that that perpetuates this ridiculous situation. Stop attempting to defend what is completely indefensible.

Just now, robblok said:

Your not deflecting at all.. 

 

Strange... the story started with me stating that if this guy stays clean he would not be kicked out like Thaksin and somehow we ended up discussing Prawit and Prayut.. not discussing that unlike Thaksin this guy can't be forced out if he stays clean. You don't like to discuss that because then you have to admit Thaksin was a crook.

 

I have always branded Thaksin a crook. I was glad to see the back of him and then his sister until I realized what would replace her (them). You, like many others here on TV, cannot for the life you get your head around the fact that someone who is disgusted by Attitude Adjustment and making freedom of expression a criminal offense is not necessarily a so-called red shirt or Thaksin supporter. And no I didn't deflect, I was merely responding to your comment. You have difficulty posting anything that doesn't mention Thaksin/Yingluck/red-shirts... in fact, in the past, it was you who often deflected from criticism and mockery of the junta with response involving the above. It turns out your beloved junta are the same thieving scum as Thaksin was. The only difference is that the junta has a license to steal by those we cannot mention. Those that installed the junta. I would gladly mention them but don't want to risk being prosecuted for LM.  And that really says it all, doesn't it?  Or shall we go back to your favourite subject: Thaksin. Get over it, he's gone.

Just now, robblok said:

That still does not change the fact that if the guy in the OP stays clean.. then even though he is a millionaire like Thaksin he can't be kicked out because Thaksin was a corrupt crook. Your deflections don't really fly here.

 

I have no idea where Prayut got his money from, but unlike with Thaksin you have no evidence to state he is corrupt. Thaksin has many court cases against him for loads of money. Prayut does not. Prawit is someone who needs to be investigated as there is proof against him. YL also has much money.. how did she get this ? Maybe Prayut got it the same way.

I'm not deflecting at all. Why should I? Of course Prayuth does not have any court cases against him. You cannot prosecute Prayuth. He is completely untouchable. If he refuses to allow people to question how he amassed such a fortune (and that's only the fortune that has been reported - not the full whack), then he clearly has something to hide. He knows  - even if he wanted to - he could not dump Prawit because Prawit knows full well where Prayuth got his money. The same way they all did.It doesn't take a genius to work out that Thai generals' (in general), particularly the junta inner circle's assets do not add up in terms of their salaries. Not even close.

Just now, JOC said:

Not being an apologist but realist....

Unless you are on a 3-weeks holiday, we all know that the rich and powerful will never see the inside of a jail....

Like it or not....just a fact of life.....no matter how much you post on Thaivisa demanding justice...

According to the ways things are working here...this case is not active anymore......The perpetrator has expressed remorse...victims family accepted and received economic compensation = End of story

A very pragmatic and practical way to handle it.......

Making a pay-off is not an expression of remorse.

Just now, Oziex1 said:

Ah, The need to clarify the misunderstandings, what is it with this country are they not speaking the same language?

 

To be fair it is common in politics to clarify, means to change what was initially said to appease the people or specific groups.

 

AKA, back peddling or flipping.

I don't think his comments on religion required an apology. I agree with him.

Just now, lvr181 said:

With apparent "silent" agreement from Myanmar's Buddhist neighbour? The kingdom seems to pay lip service to human rights abuse but is silent when it comes to their neighbour? 

The junta is a human rights abuser.

Just now, robblok said:

As long as he is clean they can't kick him out the last guy who tried it was a corrupt criminal. If your clean and working for the country they can't kick you out. 

So how do you explain the continued presence of Prayuth and Prawit still within the borders of Thailand. Neither is clean (far from it) and neither is working for the country, they work for the powers that installed them. End of list.

Just now, JOC said:

Why?

Is your personal life affected in an way by him being on the run.....?....

Why not?

Just now, merlin2002 said:

As usual the Thais deflect blame onto a 3rd party. They are never at fault... 

I don't actually buy into that much trumpeted belief by foreigners about Thais. It's a huge generalization. It seems to be something that Thais in positions of authority who find themselves in the spotlight do, but it's certainly not a trait shared by my Thai friends and acquaintances. But they are not in positions of authority.