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4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Yes i see, however these are just 2 articles while 100's say otherwise. I can find anything i like on the internet supporting my opinion. I keep to the mainstream news not outliers. 

 

I can find on the internet that the earth is flat too and a lot of people supporting it. Does not make it true. However if all over the world lockdowns that bring hardship and unpopularity to goverments are used then I know its the right thing. Because no government would lockdown and make itself unpopular if they really had too.

 

You can always find outliers but that does not convince me. As the logic of a lockdown is sound. Less contact is less spread. Unless you can destroy that argument yours are not strong enough.

That first article actually lets you know WHY you can find any point of view.

Read it.

I also believe that if you think lockdowns work… lockdown! Stay in your house. Grab is cheap. Let the rest of us live our lives. If we can agree on that we can be friends lol

You also don’t seem to understand, I am not saying lockdowns don’t work. I am saying they are detrimental. Meaning, they kill more people. 

43 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The heavier the restrictions, the more effective in stopping the spread.

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Who in his right mind likes lockdowns, i sure as hell don't. I also dont like them. My life and that of many people has become boring. I am not an outgoing person at all. I like my home i like entertaining myself there however i am bored too.

 

I hate that its hard to see my parents or to do anything fun in Thailand right now. I am not super scared of the virus but I am scared of what will happen if the numbers get too high for the hospitals to cope with. We have seen Italy, Brazil, India all get far higher death rates because they could not help everyone.

 

That is what a lockdown is for to slow the spread so the virus. Lockdowns are used in all the countries in the world. So for those that doubt do you think everyone is wrong and you are right. 

 

Maybe more a bit of wanting something so much. I understand a lot of expats are retired and came here for fun and now there is no fun. Being locked up in a small condo nothing much to do. Not fun at all. I get that does not make the points of a lockdown less valid.

You have a lot of time to read during your lockdown

https://www.city-journal.org/panic-pandemic?wallit_nosession=1

https://academic.oup.com/cesifo/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cesifo/ifab003/6199605

10 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

And meanwhile Thailand is reeling in money by exporting vaccines made in-country.

Yes. Someone who is examining real answers. 

6 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

You do understand people were dying of these things long before Covid too? They still would be in the absence of lockdown, surrounded by people (friends and relatives)  getting sick and dying in large numbers and unable to get treatment in bursting at the seams medical facilities. It may even exacerbate the numbers. 

Seriously man. Inform yourself. You can go down the line. Those number btw, far outweigh covid numbers, even in a single issue like drug overdoses. So imagine depression, abuse, undiagnosed cancer…

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/07/14/drug-overdose-deaths-surged-29-last-year-amid-covid-pandemic-cdc-says/?sh=6c54a1d734d9

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

So you don’t like lockdowns, we get it.

 

Bottom line: restrictions can hold virus spreading in check until vaccination is available.

But Thai people are not restricted. Go to a market. 
 

I actually agree with you. If you can do a bars on doors and windows four week shut in, China style, that would work. How can you possibly think anything short of that will work? One person started all of this. You can look at infection curves, they don’t just drop off when countries went into lockdowns, they peak and taper naturally. 

7 minutes ago, Johnny Mac said:

Do you spend all day, every day talking about this? That's a rhetorical question, by the way.

More like he spends all day thinking erroneously about this. 

17 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Flood damage, major crashes, all easy to spot.

And many people might have got caught up in the Covid masquerade and lost their source of income.

I look at a lot of used cars, and this is the story I am told often.

Is it true ? Unknown.

Are the cars in like-new condition - yes

Apart from the original buyer eating the depreciation.

Where exactly do you look at cars like this? Thanks

9 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

They do, it's labeled Sinovac.

Placebovac

Now what is probably rightfully happening in the mind of Thais is, well waiting for a shot other than sinovac would have been a good move. It promotes procrastination. 

1 minute ago, nobodysfriend said:

Highly contagious Delta variant means people should avoid any unnecessary contact . They should use their phones instead to order food , medicines etc .

If there is no delivery service yet , need to set up one as soon as possible .

Why do we have the delta variant? Border are closed. It proves border closure does nothing. So, open the borders.

What Thailand is doing is worst of all worlds. They have the virus running rampant, which it will do no matter what, and they are starving and restricting their own people. 

Don’t send a single vial out until your own population is vaxxed. 
 

Vaccination is the one and only tool we have that is proven to work against this virus. When that sinks in with people and they understand that statement, I think they will ramp up vaccine efforts. Hopefully soon. 
 

Open everything IMO because that will get the Thai govt 100% focused on vaxxing their population, and to stop wasting time on utterly useless and resource wasting policies. 

computer chips implanted w/infusions of feel good chemicals? better food? better entertainment? Or are we doomed and no way do we exist? 

yes computers will be better, but the only “advantage” we get from that is being able to watch more ads during browsing. Faster computer are just better advertising machines. 
 

Food will get worse. That’s obvious. Chemical engineering, more processed foods.

It’s actually much more likely we get worse in many areas. Look at covid as the perfect example, 

When YouTube channels get this big, I think there is a really big problem. You essentially have a foreign worker, obviously working in Thailand, with no work permit. I think if when Thais realize exactly how this works, this will end. Enforcement is so easy, there is no way to hide for these big channels. 

Isn’t that the one that has to be kept super cold? 
 

I would not be surprised if Thais put it in a normal refrigerator, assuming that that was ok lol

I seriously would not take the one that has those strict temp protocols here. Was it manufactured here?

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

BREAKING: Starting from 21 July, domestic airlines are not allowed to fly passengers out of the dark red zones. This includes Bangkok. Exceptions are Sandbox and Samui+ flights, medical flights and emergency landing. Other routes can only fly at 50% capacity

 

https://twitter.com/ThaiNewsReports/status/1416719463945101312

 

Open everything. 
 

They are closing everything. 
 

Tough to be in charge I admit, but they are doing the exact opposite of what they should. 

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Your a tad confused about things it appears and your statements even confuse me as to your motives and agenda.

Open everything. Hard to get confused.