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3 hours ago, Maestro said:

You are missing the point. When an immigration official (illegally) asks for owner's details which the owner declines to supply,  you have the option of doing exactly as TallGuyJohninBKK did, described in this post:

 

 

The only item I would add to the above list is a stamped, self-addressed envelope for the return of the notification receipt, which TallGuyJohninBKK probably also mailed.

The officers wanting to go by their rules may be tossing those letters in bin, but I agree it is a very good way to avoid the owner detail problem. 

Also, the lawyers I visited to discuss execution of will were not clear with the descriptions and dodged questions and asked for large percentage of estate.

I've been told there are lawyers at the provincial court. I am yet to visit but want to one day.

3 hours ago, BlackJack said:

The banks dont know if someone dies and they dont believe someones died until they see the Thai Death Certificate - If someone went into the bank and said someones died can you lock their account they would probably just smile at you.

The process is Letter of Release from the Embassy of the deceased

Temple cremation and letter of cremation from the temple

A lawyer has to write a Plaint to get a court date About 2-3 months

Go to court with Will (no Will is complicated) and Executor gives testimony

Wait 30 days 

15 days for the Executor to resign (to much work, stress, doesn't know what to do as all in Thai language

30 days for challenges to the Will, Executor, debtors, creditors

Court order Grant of Probate issues

Go to banks, Land Office, DBD etc and start to close things down

Liquidate assets of change them over to bona fide partners name

Send money back overseas if you can - Anti Money Laundering Office AMLO involved 

It is possible that someone has access to internet banking, ATM and can clean out the accounts

You know Thailand runs on paperwork, stamps etc.

Thanks. It seems like you've  been through the process yourself. I investigated a while back and my conclusion is that the more you can leave back in your home country with a will there the safer.

Australia has a very streamlined process all doable online without a lawyer.

2 hours ago, BlackJack said:

there are 5 ways to make a Will - the Amphur is old hat.

 

Going to the amphur isn't about making a will. It's about recognising the will you already made. They keep a copy of the will to prove officially you were alive when the will was made and I'm guessing is undeniable accepted proof for the courts.

Maestro, master of the house, this is playing out like a Seinfeld episode.

TM30 is not hard to do and I haven't heard of anyone being charged for filing. It's free and fun. I throw all definitions and rules out the window and go whenever away from my bed for 24hrs. It's my one and only rule that beats all other rules or definitions.

Just one concerning thing for people is when the owner won't supply details( chanot,tax papers etc.) if asked by officer , you have no way but to find a new address.

Have a great day everyone

Is the Pattaya. Banglamung amphur dealing with foreigners again. I was told by staff they don't deal with foreigners anymore quite a while ago. 

Has anyone been recently to try will verification/acknowledgement with them.

Actually. I got time at the moment.

Even though I already have krungsri and tmb account. I will visit 5 banks during the following days and ask to first speak to manager and next to ask to open bank account for purpose of condo purchase.

I'm guessing 3 out of 5 success rate. I'll be in touch homies.

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

They are the ones who are "making the law" and they can establish whatever rules they want to. 

agreed, but I'm not sure, does the immigration Minister and Privy council need to sign off on new imm. laws.  I'm guessing if you went to defend yourself in court using basic reasoning of following written law a loss would still be imminent.

I know of one situation where a judge simply ignored the law of an overdue co-owner having to pay interest in money owed. The coowner was let off from having to pay the interest.

A complete joke as the interest owed side of the law is important in making people pay on time.

Enjoy your supper chaps

1 hour ago, Olmate said:

Sorry you’ve lost me there, not sure what your getting at. 

In short, don't worry if officers change about, the agents will be introduced to new officer and business as usual.

If you are with the agent or nearby when the agent spins his magic you'll see what the relationship is like. 

But at the end of the day you choose what's good for you.

It just seems to me, those trying it on their own are met with more and more hurdles.

I've seen preferential treatment at land office too. Those people acting as agents but walk around so comfortable and joking with staff as if they own the place.

I'm guessing the officers that caught went rogue outside of office environment to make some side off side cash.

2 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

What do you do if all the officers at a location are transferred?

The agents are probably so well ingrained they make new friends with the new officers. But I'd personally recommend tagging along with the agent until you are comfortable. 

As a test, maybe some of you when at the office next time, say something like, I'm applying for an extension and my agent will be coming soon , but I was hoping to get a tm40 form from you. See what they say.

11 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

What do you think the recent arrests at Don Muang were about?  Suspect the arrested foreigners used an agent who used those officers.  Not a good time to be thinking of taking shortcuts IMHO.  

There are those agents who know the officers up top. You just have to choose the right agent and if in doubt go to your first trip together to immigration to make sure it's kosher. There's a right way and a wrong way, but sure you gotta use your smarts.

I've heard there are retired chaps that go through an agent not having to show any bank book or embassy letters at all. Just a reasonable fee.

It appears that's what system they are looking for.

Much like the border run system for tourist visas.

Probably best just start the hunt for an agent closest to the top of the pyramid.

On 1/25/2019 at 4:43 PM, Thomas J said:

I went to about 5 different banks

Just as a test, I bet if you got someone to go back to same banks and ask to open an account to transfer 3 million baht because they wanted to buy a condo, then the banks would open the account.

I'm curious to hear a knock back on those grounds.

1 hour ago, Christophers200 said:

Only a Visa obtained from a Thai Embassy/Consulate allows entry to the country. An extension of stay does not allow entry unless accompanied by a re-entry permit both of which can only be obtained in-country from the Thai immigration service.

I don't see the fuss over having just labelled it as a multi entry retirement visa that is renewed each year. I've obtained a b type visa while in thailand and I get multiple entries on my METV.

Any other reasons why it is important to rename this process as an extension.

It is what it is seems the best reasoning.

3 minutes ago, Christophers200 said:

Visas are never expended. Only the permission-to-stay obtained from a Visa or Visa-exempt entry can be extended. A Visa once used or past its use-by date is of no further use. 

Thanks. Do you know why this terminology/method is used for allowing retirees to stay long term. Any reason why a document titled visa could not be used each year?

They both pretty much take up a page in a passport.

Is it not correct to say the visa is extended by the extension of stay documentation. To say someone is staying as an alien without a visa doesn't seem right to me. I'm not sure as I'm a few years away from retirement. 

24 minutes ago, AlexRRR said:

 

Soccer womens league are prettier....

Oh boy! Those soccer ladies can hammer the ball though. They kick it hard. Soccer bores me a bit as I've been spoilt with AFL but I'd prefer to watch ladies soccer to WAFL. But the other way round for the chaps.

Go Tiger!

8 minutes ago, indepth said:

very informative, thanks, now, what is the fine for no TM30

Anywhere from nothing to thousands, depending on who you deal with. The written law on .gov website I believe stated 1900 baht if my memory serves me right. 

My point when mentioning my experiences wether in jomtien or bkk is this. Rules written or not change with the wind and it's best to over do it with safety and expect everything everywhere everytime.

That's my take on it.

If you try to get one set scenario that you see is right you'll be tripped up eventually.

I did my part yesterday.

Walked into jomtien imm. About 11:45 to hand in tm30 after arriving back in Thailand to stay in my not so temporary accommodation.

I copied a lot of pages with the form to which the young lady seemed frustrated as to why so many pages. Surprisingly, at the front desk I was processed right away. Gone in 5 minutes.

Besides my usual advice of go often to do tm30 for your safety, make sure you are supplying as many documents as you can in support.

I say, if you are asked to do it. Do it well.

On 12/27/2018 at 11:23 PM, fforest1 said:

Bangkok with-out the immigration offices practically ceasing to function because of overload.... 

Farang, if smart, would unite and make that point. I.e. If everybody went everytime following the rule if you are away from your bed for more than 24 hrs go to report. It may push the rule to breaking point.

But instead groups fail to go and are eventually fined feeding the system. Everybody. Please go everytime you think you need to. And even throw a few in of go even though you know you don't need to.

2 hours ago, Thechook said:

Who's excited?  The AFLW kicks off in 13 days.

Yeah, sort of.

No doubt, women's sport has got more intense

 Watching Sharapova now. Scream it out loud baby

What reason for non O?

Cheers.

METV. From your home country. With returns back to home country.

This seems to be the most appropriate visa option C/w visa on arrival and setv.  I've never heard of problems with METV from home country.

use,  I'm a tourist to Thailand who has friends to visit and funds to support while visiting Thailand. Maybe using visa for visiting girlfriend is not an accepted reason.

3 Alexs.

de Minaur, Bolt and last hopeful Popyrin in Oz open.

Alex is the in name at the moment.

Sorry to keep mentioning tennis.

But something to get excited about until the preseason footy games start.

I'm thinking Tigers still in good stead for a rippa 2019. 

No bad news regarding drunk players or sex acts, so team should be tight and ready to play.