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papa al

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  1. 6 hours ago, MarcusAurelius said:

    This is also important. The Ukraine has in fact lost so many men there is a M/F imbalance in the society similar to Russia post WW2 

     

    Per Grok:

     

    Overview of Casualties in the Russia-Ukraine WarEstimating the total number of lives lost (deaths only) in the Russia-Ukraine war as of November 21, 2025, is challenging due to the fog of war, restricted access to occupied areas, and deliberate underreporting by both sides. Official figures from Russia and Ukraine are considered unreliable by independent observers, as they serve propaganda purposes. More credible data comes from Western intelligence, UN verification, open-source investigations (e.g., BBC/Mediazona, UA Losses), and think tanks like the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). These sources emphasize that actual numbers are likely higher than verified totals, especially for military deaths in remote or contested zones.The war, which escalated with Russia's full-scale invasion on February 24, 2022, has caused devastating human costs. Below, I break down estimates for military deaths (Russian and Ukrainian forces) and civilian deaths (primarily in Ukraine, as Russian civilian losses are minimal and not systematically reported). Total estimated deaths across all categories range from 500,000 to 700,000, with military losses dominating. This does not include the pre-2022 Donbas conflict (2014–2021), which added ~14,000 deaths.Key Caveats on EstimatesMilitary: Focus on killed in action (KIA); excludes wounded (which total 1–1.5 million across sides) or missing (tens of thousands). 
    Civilian: UN-verified figures are conservative; they only include cases with evidence and exclude unaccessed areas like Mariupol. 
    Trends in 2025: Casualties surged this year due to intensified Russian offensives (e.g., around Pokrovsk) and drone/missile strikes. Russia reports ~1,000 casualties/day; Ukraine ~500/day. 
    Bias Consideration: Ukrainian sources inflate Russian losses; Russian sources downplay their own. Western/UN data balances this by cross-verifying via satellites, intercepts, and obituaries. 
     
    Estimated Deaths by CategoryCategory 
    Estimated Deaths 
    Key Sources & Notes 
    Russian Military 
    250,000–350,000 
    - CSIS (Aug 2025): ~250,000 KIA by May 2025, en route to 1M total casualties (KIA ~25–30%).
    - BBC/Mediazona (Nov 2025): 95,000+ confirmed (via obituaries/social media), extrapolated to 250,000–327,000 excluding DPR/LPR militias.
    - UK MoD/Euromaidan (May/Nov 2025): 160,000 casualties in first 4 months of 2025 alone; ~100,000 KIA in 2025.
    - Includes ~21,000–23,500 DPR/LPR fighters (BBC, 2025). Zelenskyy (Dec 2024) claimed 198,000, but 2025 escalations add ~50,000–150,000. 
    Ukrainian Military 
    60,000–120,000 
    - Zelenskyy (Dec 2024): 43,000 KIA; no 2025 update, but analysts add 20,000–80,000 for intensified fighting.
    - CSIS (Jun 2025): 60,000–100,000 KIA within 400,000 total casualties.
    - UA Losses (Oct 2025): ~70,000 confirmed dead/missing; NYT/Lostarmour (Jan 2025): >100,000 KIA by Dec 2024, plus 2025 losses.
    - Lower than Russia's due to defensive posture and better training, but rising with conscription strains. 
    Ukrainian Civilians 
    15,000–20,000+ 
    - UN OHCHR (Nov 2025): 14,534 verified KIA since 2022; real toll "substantially higher" due to unverified cases in occupied areas.
    - 2025 surge: 12,062 casualties (Jan–Oct), exceeding 2024's full-year total; includes 733 children.
    - Peaks from Russian strikes (e.g., 26 killed in Ternopil, Nov 19, 2025; Reuters).
    - Excludes 8,000–10,000 from 2014–2021 Donbas phase. Russian civilian deaths: Negligible (100 from Ukrainian strikes). 
    Total Lives Lost 
    500,000–700,000 
    Sum of above ranges. CSIS/NYT (Jun 2025): ~1.4M total casualties (both militaries), implying ~350,000–500,000 KIA. Excludes indirect deaths (e.g., ~100,000 from disrupted healthcare/cold winters). 
     
    Broader Context and Human ImpactAsymmetry: Russia has suffered 3–5 times more military deaths due to "meat grinder" assaults (e.g., 27 KIA per sq km captured in 2024–2025; Economist). Ukraine's losses, while lower, strain its smaller population (~38M pre-war vs. Russia's 144M). 
    2025 Escalation: Russian advances (e.g., Pokrovsk) cost ~45,000 casualties in November alone (UK intel). Civilian deaths rose 27% YoY (UN), driven by drones (24% of casualties) and infrastructure strikes. 
    Demographic Toll: Ukraine faces a "lost generation" (millions displaced, birth rates halved). Russia sees excess male deaths (~1.1% of fighting-age men), fueling recruitment from prisons and abroad. 
    Verification Challenges: Open-source tools (e.g., drone footage, social media) confirm ~10–20% of totals; satellites track advances but not bodies. UN accesses only government-held areas. 
     
    These figures underscore the war's brutality—far exceeding recent conflicts like Afghanistan (US: 2,400 KIA over 20 years). Peace negotiations (e.g., Trump admin's reported framework) could halt this, but as Putin stated on Nov 20, 2025, Russia seeks "unconditional" goals, showing no compromise.  
     @tassagency_en 
      For the latest, monitor UN OHCHR or CSIS updates, as numbers evolve weekly. 
     

    How dare you cite evidence.!!

  2. 3 hours ago, mikebell said:

    True.  'Law enforcement doesn't stop idiots.'  Direct policing on the roads would deter various offences which incites road rage.  Have you ever grumbled (mildly) at the number of red-light changes it takes before you get past due to red light runners?  Have you ever witnessed the log-jam effect where motorists intrude into yellow shaded boxes stopping traffic in all directions and thought 'oh dear'.

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