Confuscious

41 minutes ago, bob smith said:

shades of The Night Of The Broken Glass...

 

if you know, then good, you are awake.

 

The writing is on the wall.

 

Time to get out.

 

bob.

Shades of the "Crystal night" 60 years ago.

The point is not a nationality or a group of people from a certain country.

The point is that the Thai authorities are looking for FOREIGNERS

Only to climb the ladder of popularity.

And it makes no difference that Thai people are more crooked as these foreigners.

The PM go to Chiang Mai to meet square face.

Big joke is having to face a lawsuit and maybe will go to jail.

the chief of the police is transferred to the office of the PM

Square face is going to meet his party

Immigration is again anti foreigner 

I can smell a stinking rat here

2 hours ago, Mike Lister said:

Thailand is anti-farang and only wants their money! 

 

Paranoia much!

As far as I know, Thailand has always been anti-fahrang?

Specially with square face in the country.

1 hour ago, RobU said:

 "complaint"

Not a complaint, just writing the Naked Truth of the decline of our society in this century 😭😭😭

Most of the people who responded to this thread are out-of-touch with the reality and should go spend a few weeks in their own country.
This kind of judiciary sentences can be found all over the world nowadays.
I read yesterday about the court sentence in Belgium handed to a person for exposing a criminal movement on YouTube.
The criminal movement was not sentenced.
And about 1/2 year ago a truck driver, who was speeding and drunk hit a car and killed a family of 3.
He got a suspended jail sentence because "trick driving was his only source of income and he was never sentenced before".
This is not a Thai only thing.

What happened to the Thai BUDDHIST people?

AFAIK, Thais have always hold the prescription that if you wish bad for someone the bad will hit you in 10-fold (= Karma).
Thais were always reluctant to wish anybody being prosecuted for a crime out of fear that their wish would turn into bad Karma for themseleves.
The would forgive a person who hurt them and would let Karma do the bad work.
Now they changed all of the sudden?
Ain't they afraid that KARMA will hit them 10-fold for washing the foreigners bad luck?

History repeat itself:

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5 hours ago, Raindancer said:

As you say.....it is just a guess.

 

Who really knows the reason for them asking. 

 

If people answer by inflating their income to immigration, it will be counterproductive, if indeed your guess is correct.

 

It will give them a reason to consider increasing fees or financial qualifications for extensions.

It's all a guess, without knowing the real reason for asking this question.
I remember, long ago when the only Immigration office was at Suan Phlu in Bangkok, I went for my 1st Visa extension.
I had the 400 Kbaht (a few years later it went up to 800 KBaht) in a bank account and had all the nexessary documents ready.
The Immigration Officer asked from what I was living, outside from the 400 KBaht.
He wanted only to know if I had the means to support myself as many expats were using Visa agents who used deposit the money in a bank account for a fee.

Scamming OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS seems to have become a favourite passtime by THAI people.
Fake drivers licenses; Fake QR-codes; Etc.
I received a phone call from someone who claimed to work for the PEA and notified me that I could claim a refund on my electricity bill from the past 3 years.
Closed the call without responding and went to the PEA Office to check the call and it was a SCAM.
But they would not help me to bring the SCAMMER to the poilce.
Scamming is a job allowed for Thai locals.

Come on guys, he was having his "periods".

13 hours ago, Mike Lister said:

The extract that you've posted appears to be the Immigration requirements for a visa using the income method, which has nothing whatsoever to do with reporting income to the Thai Revenue!

The attached document is a NEW DOCUMENT and ask CLEARLY in #2 about my monthly income and where it comes from.
This document was not required last year.
That's the end of this discussion for me.
 

26 minutes ago, Mike Lister said:

The extract that you've posted appears to be the Immigration requirements for a visa using the income method, which has nothing whatsoever to do with reporting income to the Thai Revenue!

Requirement #1:
Every officer is entitled to ask for documents outside the list if he/she deems it necessary.

4 minutes ago, Mike Lister said:

That makes zero sense, are you certain about that?

 

Unless a person has assessible income, they have no need to declare anything  to the Thai Revenue.

40 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Same boat but different country. Self and Thai Wife both Citizens and we can go back anytime we want. Plan is to stay here a long time, and return when/if one of us starts getting very old/sick. Too expensive to stay here when those serious old age medical problems kick-in - which is usually in mid-late 70s, or if you are lucky not until 80s, or if you are unlucky in the 50s/60s.  When that happens and we cant really travel anymore, or play golf and enjoy Thailand and other SEAsian countries, we will be returning - or sooner if things go bad and I struggle to do annual renewals and 90 days reporting etc etc - and/or am forced to pay income taxes. 

I took already the decision and will travel back to my country soon.
Free healthcare and no more P.I.T.A with the ever changing VISA requirements.
If I would like to travel to Thailand, I will benefit from a FREE travel insurance and enter Thailand with a VOA.

11 hours ago, jeffandgop said:

In preparing our latest annual extension of stay based on marriage, we always submit evidence of 400K+ in the bank to meet the financial requirement.  We never use the monthly income method.  Now we were told, by an agent, that CM IM wants to also know your monthly income amount and sources.  I declined to provide that to the agent and we will see tomorrow if an IO requires this info....never have we ever been asked about my monthly income given we use the 400K+ in the bank method.

Anyone ever been asked to provide monthly income when submitting the 400K+ in the bank method?

 

And another new one; in addition to photos of us in front of the house address and in the living room, now we were told we need two more photos- one in the kitchen and one standing outside the front door...anyone having similar demands?

I had the same problem in Korat.
This year, they wanted to see a proof of income and the source of the income.
I have been told by somebody at Immigration that this was to proof that I had declard my income to the tax department.

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Yes... the message was very clear... 

 

The message is that Thai's will not tolerate racism and bigotry from other Thai's...   

 

Its strange that your take away from this even was to cement the idea that Thailand has always been Foreigner, when you present an example of Thai's standing up against a single racist Thai.

 

 

 

 

 

The main difference was that the woman was a simple citizen, maybe a farmer, with no school background.

The post office employee was a state official who had at least an university degree and took care of his customers.

16 hours ago, bob smith said:

it seems that Phuket people have a real dislike towards farangs.

I have spent quite a bit of time there in the past and the animosity from the locals was striking!

 

There is a specific facebook gorup based in Phuket that advocates discrimination and even violence against farang.

 

I wont mention the name, but if you are in the know then you know!

 

what is it with Phuket specifically? why do the locals seem to have a deep dislike for farangs?

BKK, Patts, CNX, even Samui doesnt seem to have this level of distaste for the holidaymaker.

 

considering Phuket is an island that is based on tourism and needs the tourist dollar to survive - you would think the locals would be happy about them being there,

especially after the pandemic when many phuket locals were out of work.

 

what's it all about?

 

bob.

Thailand has always been ANTI-Foreigner.
I remember when I came first to Korat, on a day begin December, I was going to send the "Season Greetings" cards to my family and friends abroad.
At the Post Office, I took a queu number and lined up with the queu.
Suddenly a Thai woman came into the Post Office and skipped the queu right in front of me.
She stated to shout loudly that I was a filthy foreigner and I had to let Thai people go first.
You are here in MY country and you should respect Thai people.
The officers at the Post Office took the woman outside and warned her to not comeback to THEIR office.
But nonetheless, the message was clear.

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Not sure that works so well in Thailand, or whether Chinese cards support it. I have noticed on the slip one signs after using it 'No Refunds' is frequently written. 

When I came to Thailand, more than 2 decades ago, I went to The Mall to buy some mfurniture and home utensils.
Paid my bill with my Visa card on a "swiping" device and all was settled.
Until I received my monthly statement of VISA and several amounts were listed to be baught in Russia and other contries I never visited.
Wrote a complaint to VISA and the OmbudsMan and had the odd payments fully returned without discussion.

41 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

My wife confirms that there's a lot of gossip about farangs right now. Not sure if it's fuelled by anger or suspicion, or the fact that they can't gossip openly about the things that are SERIOUSLY wrong with Thailand.

Many people don't seem to understand that we live in the 21st century.
The people who can influence what we think or what their version of the truth is are the "Influencers" on Social Media (read  my treath about that).
If you look at the numbers of "Followers", "Likes" and "Comments", you will see that these influencers reach more people that anyone in the politics or real life.
Thai people have always been ANTI-fahrang and have always been showing their dislike about foreigners seddle in their country/
But in a few weeks, this sentiment has hit an all high.
Those who can not see that are blinded by the Rose cloud of Thai life.