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This is from the DLT which says you need a visa to apply for a Thai drivers license. Yes I know you are going to say this is a bunch of lies too. HAVE TO PREPARE THE DOCUMENTS AS FOLLOW 1 ORIGINAL TWO-YEAR THAI DRIVING LICENCE 2 PASSPORT WITH NON-IMMIGRANT VISA (ORIGINAL AND PHOTO COPY) 3 ORIGINAL PRESENT RESIDENT ADDRESS IN THAILAND CERTIFY FROM EMBASSY / IMMIGRATION BUREAU (VALID FOR 1 YEAR) OR WORK PERMIT (WITH PRESENT RESIDENT ADDRESS IDENTIFIED) AND ORIGINAL PHOTO COPY OR WORK PERMIT WITH ORIGINAL AND PHOTO COPY 4 ORIGINAL MEDICAL CERTIFICATE (5 DISEASES FORM) FROM CLINIC OR HOSPITAL (VALID FOR 1 MONTH) https://www.dlt.go.th/en/two-year-license/

There are a number of websites that prove that you need a Non Immigrant Visa when applying for a work permit. And this is one of them. "Step 2: Obtaining the Thai Work Permit Employee provided work permit documents: Passport - copies of every page. Each copy must be signed by employee. Non-Immigrant Visa Departure Card TM.6 Education degree (signed copy) * Transcript (signed copy) * Certificates or licenses held by applicant (signed copy) * CV or Resume - describe in detail the applicant's past positions, duties, performance, length and place of employment. Photos, three (3) in quantities which are 5 x 6 centimeters in size (not passport photos) with full face and taken wearing business attire (no hat and some jurisdictions require suit and tie). This must have been taken within six (6) months before the application for the Thai work permit. Marriage Certificate (if married to Thai National). This includes the original and signed photocopies. Also include wife's Thai ID card, birth certificates of children, and household registration." https://www.siam-legal.com/Business-in-Thailand/thailand-work-permit.php

Do you know what section 15 is about? If you do not know you can read this link. https://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/immigration-act.html

YES YOU DO. I believe that the desire to have a "Permission To Stay" is much greater than the knowledge you may have about Thailand. "A foreigner is eligible to apply for a work permit as long as he has a non-immigrant visa or a resident visa, has an available employer who will provide documents for work permit, and the occupation he will perform is not prohibited to foreigners." https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand/work-permit-requirements

But he does not answer my question.

I don't know if I'm going to laugh or cry. What has that got to do with Thailand?

If you can't answer this question please don't waste my time with rubbish like this. Do you need a VISA when you apply for a work permit in Thailand?

What does it takes to make you understand that what you have is a VISA? See what comes up when you search for "Extension Of Stay". Absolutely nothing except a visa to Thailand. And that tells you nothing? Now there has been a Pandemic and there has been talk of foreigners who have been stranded in Thailand and visas have been extended. And recently the Immigration Office has introduced an online visa extension. Something that doesn't tell you anything either? And what about all those sites, official and commercial, that confirms that it is a VISA. Still no reaction? I honestly think that if the foreign minister of Thailand had "screamed" into your ears that it is a visa, I think you would still not have believed that it is a VISA.

This is a link from the Immigration Office in Udon Thani where it is clearly stated that it is a visa. To be completely honest, it is beyond my comprehension to understand why people cling to this "Permission To Stay". It doesn't make any sense. https://www.thailandimmigration.org/retirement-visa-for-thailand/

It proves that you have a visa. Please watch the video and you will understand.

Could you please tell me what is not correct in this link from the Immigration Office. https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?p=14714

This lawer from Integrety Legal in Bangkok has lived in Thailand for 30 years and has a Thai citizenship. In this video he explains what a Re Entry Permit Is and why you need one.

Do you honestly believe that what the Immigration Office says in this link is not true? https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?p=14714 And what about the new service Immigration Office offers online Visa Extension? Something everyone is talking about. Is this also not true? https://asq.in.th/thailand-e-extension-electronic-visa-extension

Form TM7 is used when applying for an extension of a Visa Exemption, Tourist Visa and a Non Immigrant Visa. EVERYONE gets the same stamp in their passport. The term "Extension Of Stay" is a common heading for all 3. And please note where it says "Kind of visa" on form TM7. It's where you fill in what kind of visa you wish to extend. Iff you have a Visa Exemption you fill in "Visa Exemption". It is obvious that you have a visa based on the heading on TM86.

Wrong. With a single Entry Visa, a Tourist Visa, a Non Immigrant and a Resident Visa, you can leave Thailand and come back to Thailand before the visa expires iff you have a Re Entry Permit. And you can do so because you have a VISA and NOT a "Permission Of Stay".

I am NOT trying to "wind" anyone up. This is a serious thread where I want to shed light on this belief that one does not have a visa, but a "Permission Of Stay". There is not a single proof of this "Permission Of Stay", but a lot of proof that there is a visa in Thailand. And the most solid evidence comes from the Immigration Office. But for some strange reason, many people do not want to believe that. The list is long when it comes to the requirement for a Non Immigrant Visa. Proof of residence at the Immigration Office, Purchase of a car/motorcycle in your own name, Yellow Book, Pink ID card, Often for a Thai bank account, Work permit and Resident Permit. But these are just some of the things you need a Non Immigrant Visa for. Instead of sulking, you can prove me wrong if you can.

So the same day I have a Non Immigrant Visa, but not the next? Do you understand that contradicts a "Permision To Stay" from the moment you leave the Immigration Office until 2400 the same day? If you lose your visa when passing the passport control, why don't you lose your visa when you leave the Immigration Office?

My experience after 22 years in Thailand Immigration Offices in Thailand usually treat foreigners with respect (kind of).

Sure? There is this website from the Immigration Office head office, but most local offices also having their own websites with the same information. https://www.immigration.go.th/en/?p=14714

At my Immigration Office NO ONES is f..... with you.

I have lived i Thailand for 22 years and I have had a Non Immigrant Visa for the same period of time. It takes me 30-40 min. at my local Immigration Office to extend my visa and the fee is 1900 baht. There is NO NEED for a visa agent. If you have a problem with filling in form TM7 the Immigration Office even do that for you.

When you have had a tourist visa changed to a Non Immigrant Visa at the Immigration Office you get a stamp in your passport that says "Non Immigrant" and NOT "Permision To Stay". If you believe that you lose your tourist visa and you get a "Permision To Stay", then the natural question is when will you lose this Non Immigrant Visa they gave you at the Immigration Office. Do you get a USED stamp in your passport before you go out the door to the Immigration Office or is this something that happens automatically?

I am not confused at all. And you should not be either if you read what the Immigration Office says on their website.

You DO NOT have a "permission to stay". What you have is a VISA. That is why you can change a Tourist Viso to a Non Immigrant Visa at the Immigration Office. Please read what the Immigration Office says on their website.