Bronzepickup

The rudest and loudest people I ever seen.

yup.....they're not familiar with the concept of queueing among other things. Just wait till you see a mob of them drunk. i

Correct.

Smiley face from Beijing PRC.

A culture that chases money will smile very little.

Check out the sourpuss Russians in Pattaya.

Smiley face from Beijing, PRC.

I'd better place a 35 yard curler into the top corner then, just inside the right hand post.

Let's hope the ref doesn't say I'm offside.

PS. I never thought I'd get a like from Naam on this thread.

BTW. Some of my gold posts have gone missing.

Anybody else have the same problem?

Unintended Consequences Are Increasing World Demand for Gold

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First impressions are usually the best ones too.

the simple explanation is: Gold has NO intrinsic value (as the goldbugs claim). actually nothing exists which has intrinsic value if there is no demand. stranded on an uninhabitated island the demand for Gold is ZERO. on this island the art of hunting and fishing as well as the knowledge of a source with drinkable water is a zillion times superior in intrinsic values than tons of Gold

Ain't that the truth.

First posts are usually the best ones.

If you think you will catch a fish, you probably will.

Gold in the pocket weighs you down.

Wow, you really think the vast majority of relationships are based on love? you really are naive.

... go back to your bottle of super-market cider mate

Jayroo makes an observation which is pretty close to SE Asia, William.

Some farangs struggle with the concept.

Some farangs say "I told you so"

Perhaps things have changed since my day but back then the girls I knew were quit selective. It was girls at the lower end of the spectrum who were left with little choice.

Facing ones own insecurities and prejudices falls under the category of learning stuff, I mentioned earlier. Not everyone is into introspection and self-knowledge, however.

Take care with the words "lower end of the spectrum" please VF. You live in a Thai village remember.

to the OP... Get your daughter/ son in law to pay rent on your house in UK or else sell it...this along with your 35k salary should be enough to get your GF off the game and have a normal relationship... mate ! get off the glue, you're 50 years old... just coz you live in Pattaya, it is not normal for your old lady to work as a prozzer .. end of !!

Correct.

She's either worth it or she's not.

Up to you.

Trust aside, it wouldn't do you any harm to find out all the options open to you, and then weigh them up yourself. You might want some sort of provisional cover in case of uncertain scenarios arising.

I don't, for instance know what would happen if your spouse met with an accident / death, and you had no 'real' claim on the land, whether married or not. It also depends on the land title that your partner holds. Some land here only gives the right to live on and use the land, and pass it on to family (Thai), and in this case, a registered usufruct / lease is not an option. In such cases, you can legally draw up a standard loan agreement (bi goo ngern) witnessed / signed by the village chief the pooyai, or ob ba dor, one other impartial witness, and signed / copied by yourself and the recipient, where you might 'loan' (on paper) the amount of money to be spent on the property, (or half of it, to be fair) to the real land owner, with interest (usually 3%), and have the land put up as assurity against the loan. In case of any unfortunate mishaps, you have some recourse to get your agreed investment back, or continue having access to the land - at the very end, through the courts, if necessary. This might cost you 3 baht for the form - some carbon paper, and a beer for the chief.

At the end of the day, it's not legal for you to own land here, except in certain circumstances, and you are a guest, and will always be referred to as a foreigner by the powers that be here - regardless of marital status. Regardless of love and good intentions and mutual trust, there are sometimes other factors at work against the outcome of a relationship, and I most certainly hope they don't for anyone, but if things do turn sour or spiteful, or bad luck comes your way, and there's a jealous family member after your assets, I believe it's much easier for a National to cause you grief if you don't have a back up plan, other than being able to afford to walk away from it. If I was married, and then divorced, and back to tourist status, I wouldn't have much faith in the court system here to be able to get me a fair half back in any timely manner, and then - what if you're broke and old already ? It's all very well for posters to appear flabbergasted, and talk of mutual trust like we've never heard of it, but then why should everything have to be in a Thai's name here, and why does the law make no provision for both names to be allowed ? And, why shouldn't I be allowed to have assets in my name, that I'm paying for ? I'm only saying this, because it would appear you're having some misgivings, to be posting this in the first place ?

It would be nice to think it's all rosey and lovely here, and we live in a World where you can trust everyone, everywhere - but the very real fact is you can't, and I know plenty of people here who have gone into relationships with both 'normal' straight women, and hard core institutionalised prostitutes, all with the best, honest intentions, and had different outcomes - some very good, some very bad - instigated by both sexes, regardless of background. What seems to be a constant, regardless of who anyone settles down with here, and genuinely love - if it turns sour, I see a lot of Westerners on the losing side - certainly asset wise, if they have been too trusting. It's all relative, and I'm not loaded, and have had to work my arse off for the money I've made, so if I'm making a commitment, and considerable investment - upto a good few million - which for me is beyond the point of return, I'm all up for halves personally with someone I love, even though it's all my dough really, regardless of the outcome - but it's your call. If I was seriously loaded, and she's a real beauty, I would throw a saddle over her, build a nice house for both of you, enjoy your love and the moment now, and I wouldn't give a shit about the outcome....

Good luck - I hope you have a great relationship / happy ending (when you average it all out !)

Sounds like talk from an insurance salesman in Epsom.

I know a guy who had an English missus who kept wanting a bigger and bigger house.

Now he has a Thai missus who is happy in the home made from wood.

Her land, her home, he paid.

Living With A Bar Girl In Pattaya

Looks like you didn't pay a big enough barfine OP.

It is still sexual assault. And as such he needs treating as a sex offender.

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There's a bit of a credibility gap on this post for me.

Pattayadingo.

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OK, he was a naughty boy but really, folks, this is hardly the crime of the century.

Correct.

Ask Churchill

are there any among us who drive that haven't had several (punctures) over time?

Driving was a major part of my job back in the UK, I averaged over 1,000 miles per week. Most of the places I had to visit were on industrial estates and punctures were a frequent occurrence, never fixed, always had to be replaced, cost me a fortune.

In Thailand I've just passed the 100,000 km mark in my car, I've had one puncture. The local garage plugged it, and the tire was good until it needed replacing by normal wear and tear.

Head for Buriram and hang a right.

Keep it simple.

How long is this topic going to run for?

She is dead.

Leave it to higher authorities. If she can make a case for her soul in front of them, good luck to her.

OP has gone quiet.

Talk amongst yourselves.

Anybody want to try flying in a wide-bodied airplane made in China?

They can counterfeit most things but not when it really matters.

You won't catch me in a Great Wall pickup.

I'd never feel happy in it.

Not because of safety questions.

It just would not move me.

Chinese quality!

Never mind the quality feel the width.

Chinese mentality.

Great Wall Motor Cars will be invading Thailand to take market share from good old Toyota Vigo and Nissan DMax.

Modern day China doesn't give a monkey's toss about anything apart from market opportunity.

Rampant capitalism, dog eat dog, worse than Britain in the 80's.

Good luck SEASIA v China.

(I live in Beijing. I see it. Not troll.)

i start to believe all this "honest and returning people" is just a scam for TAT

how come so many people travel with big piles of cash that always seem to forget it ?????????????

and than honest JOE SOMCHAI brings it back

put the focus on the right hand so nobody sees what the left is doing ?

I've been wondering about all these 'cash lost in taxi stories' too.

Years ago in the UK, there was a similar story involving the gas board. Apparently they replaced someone's old cooker and took away the old one, the owner forgetting he had his life savings in there. However, amidst big fanfare, the gas board managed to track down the cooker before it went to the scrap yard and return the owner's money, the story appearing in the press.

Always wondered if these stories are some sort of positive marketing ploy.

Who knows. At least if it is PR BS the writer knows the difference between good and bad.

All this jibber jabber about honesty & integrity and good values...

is it not MUCH more likely that the guy feared ghosts would haunt him if he didn't 'do the right thing'?

Maybe he was just brought up well. What would You have done?

SIR! YES SIR! stupid me SIR! why didn't i realise that before?

If the air con unit packs up in my home (like it did last time I was there) the missus calls the local sparky who put all the electrics in originally, and it gets sorted. Safely. No big song or dance.

Local sparky doesn't want everybody knowing he burned the house down that local carpenter Noi and his Wife built does he? Not good for business. Words spread like wildfire in village community. And Noi and his Wife would be very unhappy too. So would his 8 chippies.

I don't have to worry about the other 18 air con units.

Nice one Mr T Forkhandle or whatever your name is.

SIR! YES SIR!

Are you aware that the Chinese chase the American Dream and are totally confused when they go on a company jolly to Thailand?

If you are 31 then you have no choice than to seek a higher paying job outside of Thailand.

You will have to self fund your retirement or face working until death.

Your generation...and mine...will not have the luxury of a tax payer funded pension like that received by many of the snoozers here on TV.

By the time you are ready to retire the UK government will have raised the retirement age to 75...maybe 80 as there is not enough tax revenue to meet the needs of the boomers for pensions and Medicare

And here is my tip...

Earning an income in the the coming decades is not nearly as important as ENSURING that you MINIMIZE your tax.

The aging boomers are about to step up and eat the planet and X and Y gen are going to be taxed to the nuts to pay for them.

And as a final thought...why change countries...why not stay in Thailand and change your HABITS...

Profound personal change must come from within...

Embracing discipline would be easier than moving camp...

Good Luck

Smart man. The world is changing rapidly. Those around 20-30 now will do wise not to place their bets on the welfare states.

try your luck with a piece of bamboo on a Phuket beach then.

Why would I do that?

I am making money and putting it far outside the reach of greedy socialists in the EU. I'd suggest any capable young person of doing the same thing.

The world has changed forever and so has the economy. The current 'crisis' is not a crisis at all, it is a correction coming that has been underway for about 20 years since the new economies (that includes Thailand) adopted market economies. There are a billion chinese willing and able to work twice as hard for 5 times less than the average welfare fed euro. These people want what we have and they're willing to work hard for it. Are you aware that engineers in Shanghai make more than they do in Frankfurt now?

The welfare states are going to steal and steal to preserve their bloated corpse for as long as they can and that includes taking your money in the banks and come time, dip into private pensions. You just wait and see.

It's going to get real ugly back in the socialist states of EU before the inevitable Euro crash. I'd rather not bank on the ponzi scheme to last until my retirement.

sorry Mr Hammer. Misplaced guidance on my part.

Khmer girl would rip your credit card and leave you for dead. probably best to stick with 6 months cheap beer and 6 months of darkness.

sorry Mr Hammer. Misplaced guidance on my part.

Khmer girl would rip your credit card and leave you for dead. probably best to stick with 6 months cheap beer and 6 months of darkness.

Hahaha..

Best you stick to what you know, which apparantly is internet trolling in broken English.

Finish your drink and off to bed before you embarass yourself further.

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"There are a billion chinese willing and able to work twice as hard for 5 times less than the average welfare fed euro. These people want what we have and they're willing to work hard for it. Are you aware that engineers in Shanghai make more than they do in Frankfurt now?"

Quote from Mr Hammer.

Yep. I know. I live and work in Beijing.