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There is a very good youtube video about this.  IC no. is your thai NRC number.

If you are a foreigner you have to ring Shopee call center 02-017-8399. They will help process this. As you have to prepare your picture. Also a copy of your passport with name signed.    

4 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

This from the bottom of the image (click the image to enlarge it).  

Thailand does not require booster shots for entry to the country at this time.

 

Each country has a different standard of what is considered vaccinated. If you are going to Malaysia 3 doses is considered vaccinated.  Most other countries in the world two doses is considered vaccinated.

When I look at the images of him, He has bandages on feet, right leg to knee, forehead and right hand.

No mention of the type of motorcycle. If I fell off a motorbike with shoes, pants, helmet and gloves I would not have been injured like that. So he is a poster child for wear a helmet and gear and save your self from injury. Glad he made it ok.

Yes but its a good question because in malaysia it is now 3 shots.

It will get better, but going to take a while maybe a couple of years. But you never know. Worse might be around the corner ( Putin and Xi). Seems covid crisis is over as a reason, but the Chinese look tied up for at least another year over covid. The health of the European economy is going to be a key consideration. Thailand should seriously look at other ways to create economy than relying on Tourism. Does world economy look healthy to you?

Well I live in Yangon Myanmar. We were doing well just like Thailand until this strain came to us from illegal entries from bangladesh and it spread in rakhine undetected and made its way to yangon. So it is true its a very fast spreading strain and we have over 1000 cases a day in Yangon and around 25 deaths a day.

https://www.mmtimes.com/news/myanmar-warns-10-times-more-infectious-coronavirus-strain-second-wave-covid-19.html

Its not a joke. Its serious and you dont want it in thailand. We have been locked down here for a couple of months now with no end in sight.

Yes they dont know how to do plumbing and the gases come back up your shower and bathroom drains anything that doesnt have an s or p  bend in it. Thats what they are for. Also if your toilet is not sealed properly at its base it will come out there as they dont do a proper join to the toilet ceramic.

One solution not mentioned above are these silicon one way socks. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32660296420.html

Firstly I used to work in a car window tint company in Australia. Legal limit there is 35% and Meaning it lets 35% of light through. No front windscreens allowed.

Never buy window tint from the dealer as it is marked up excessively. 

They outsource it usually to another company in Australia.

To remove old window tint you steam it off.  We also used an ammonia based solution to remove the remnant glues. The rear window demister need to be treated carefully as the bars may come off. So steam and peel slowly works well.

A good tint film will be 3M in Thailand or Solargard or Luminar. Cheap ones fade and bubble and change colour quickly. Generally we give a lifetime guarantee in Aust. but it is only for purchaser. Cars are usually flipped in 5 years and the tint usually lasts 10 years.

Find out more by checking tint manufacturer websites. https://www.solargard.com/

Does have benefits. https://www.solargard.com/tint-laws/ shows no windscreen below AS1 line of top 5 inches of screen.

Regarding UV light Glass already removes UV light. Especially front screens according to this link.

Window film removes UVA and glass removes UVB. https://hps.org/publicinformation/ate/q12082.html

Cant get sunburnt through glass.

The reason for the 35% limit is safety at night. Window tint cools your car. Put 35% all round the side and rear and you should be fine. You can go darker in the back. I had a station wagon and had 5% rear so no could see in there and 20% on the rear sides. In Thailand those front windscreen and dark tints are a danger in unlit areas as night.

One good thing about window tints is that if the window breaks the film protects you from broken shattered glass.

Hope this helps. 

I dont believe in a creator God who made the universe. 

Sorry I have tried discussing it with him but he never answered.

And I was sincere.

But I do believe in doing good and that there is goodness in this world and that goodness is like a light and is full of love and all the kindness people attribute to God. 

The goodness that exists in people is infact the most beautiful thing in this whole world.

Imagine how dark it would be in your life without it. 

Are there good and bad actions is the real question you need to think about.

What is good and what is bad. 

What actions if undertaken will lead to happiness and benefit for oneself and for others.

How can we add more goodness, love, kindness and peace to the world as it appears to be an unlimited resource that is sustainable and reliable. 

How can we reduce the amount of bad actions in this world that lead to pain and suffering for ourselves and others.

This is the real questions I think we should ask. 

I think we are responsible in large measure for what we experience in our lives and how our lives affect others and this is a better explanation of what is going on than any I read in theistic books. 

Collectively we are all responsible for the light and darkness in the world. Which would you prefer?

3 minutes ago, jackdd said:

The job can't be so difficult if they still have time to make up their own rules. Just stamping somebody in is clearly easier than making up a rule to refuse him entry

Yes but they have supervisors on their case if they make a mistake so the pressure is on. And if they bust someone breaking the law maybe they can get a promotion for their smarts. So maybe they dont have incentive to just let everyone through.

Thanks for putting your experience for others to see and be aware of.

In all countries in the world immigration officers or officers of the law can have their own understanding of the law which may not be the law. It is not just a Thai thing. The best example of it I ever got of this was entering into Myanmar many years ago on a 1 year visa for meditation.  The immigration officer had never seen a 1 year meditation visa and she said it did not exist even though it was in front of her. She got all excited like I might have faked it. She tried to call her superior. She couldnt get him on the phone.  I asked her to let me show her something in my passport. I had another 2 of them already used in the same passport. She still insisted there is no 1 year meditation visa.  I also speak Burmese was very polite to her but she kept on about it not existing even though it was right in front of her, 3 of them in the same passport. Eventually she stamped me in for 1 year still shaking her head and saying it doesnt exist. 

I have also been to Thailand with visa exempt arrivals many times 6 or 8 times every year for last 8 years.

But I have never stayed more than a few days each time. 2 weeks at most. I have done 3 border crossings by land this year already from Myanmar. 

They look at your overall behaviour I spend most of the time in Myanmar. I have a multientry 1 year myanmar visa. It isnt hard to see where I am living.  So if you are really using the visa exempt for what it is meant to be used for and dont look like you could be using it to live in the country and settle down then you may not have an issue.

I have not been asked any questions except are you living in Myanmar in all that time when I go to Thailand.

My only concern is the visa exempt number of land entries. 

There are approximately 3 to 4 million Myanmar nationals working and living in Thailand. I hear different numbers from different Myanmar officials. They are are necessary part of the Thai economy now. They cant get rid of them. They have very strict rules now though and employers can be jailed and fined big fines. They have introduced documentation etc. Everytime I have been at Myanmar embassy in Bkk I overhear many cases of illegals trying to get a letter from embassy to get them back to Myanmar. Or the other day one complaining that the Thai employer had held his passport and wouldnt give it back or pay him his wages.

Immigration officials have rarely travelled as much as you have so they dont have your experience. They are hard working people in a difficult job facing thousands of entries a day. When I stand in those queues in any country I feel sorry for them. Especially when language issues come up. Put yourself in their shoes.

It is not uncommon. I took a group of Burmese passport holders to the UK. Even with a visa he got taken away for a while because his name matched the name of a sanctioned individual. He told us it happened to him before. Birthdate was different. Nothing else matched.

Yes so lets look at the intention of the rule to stop people living in Thailand for long periods with visa exempt entries. 

My example doesnt qualify for that intended end. But it ticks boxes of land crossing more than 2 times in a calendar year. It shows it is not a mandatory regulation but the officers have discretion. You are flagged for their discretion.

People living a month or two in Thailand and then about to leave to cross to Myawaddy and then return are in a different group to me. The Thai immigration officer is going to warn you that if you check out of Thailand you wont be given visa exempt next time and you will have to go all the way to Yangon to get a visa.  

We will see if they say anything to me when I check out in a couple of days to go back to Myanmar. I already have a multiple entry visa for Myanmar. 

Also imagine the Single entry Tourist to Myanmar who comes back to Thailand from there. Myanmar officials don't give a toss if you can or can not enter Thailand. You will be stamped out. When you get to Thai side of the bridge and have already done two other land crossings (say I went to Laos and Cambodia or came from Malaysia overland earlier) what can they do?  If they refuse you entry you cant go back to Myanmar you are stuck on the bridge. 

I average about 6 visa exempt entries to Thailand a year (mostly fly in and out). Each one is not more than 7 days. I live in Myanmar. Just this time I have needed to do a few overland in quick succession.

In looking that the visa requirements for Laos I could see they could turn you back because you can re-enter Laos on a visa on arrival. So each countries borders is going to have a different operational system in practise as far as I can see. (Some earlier posts were concerning expats living in Laos)

On 5/9/2018 at 10:54 PM, BritTim said:

Thank you for your surprising and informative feedback.

Yes and to add the next segment to the story. We went to the Pagoda consecration this morning in Myawaddy. The organisers had got some special permission so we were able to take a hired bus from Mae Sot to Myawaddy and back without being stamped in or out and went straight across the bridge both ways. Nice touch. So that worked out pretty easy. So immigration is allowed individual discretion in the application of the laws according to the situation.

Ok glad to report that I got my third visa exempt visa overlanding from Myawaddy to Mae Sot. Was not difficult. The immigration officer asked me where I was going in Thailand and I said just to Mae Sot and only here for 7 days at most. He asked me if I worked in Myanmar and I said no. My wife is burmese and I am retired there. The magic bang of the stamp and I am relieved.

I think the only stress was knowing that I might be refused. If I didnt know I would never have stressed about it.  

So I am going to report it is a 99% certainty you will get it in my case.

Ok I live mostly in Myanmar where I have a multiple entry visa. I went to Myawaddy Mae sot land border to re-register a  Myanmar registered motorcycle. Because of the way things worked out I had to cross to Mae Sot on a Saturday. Come back on Monday to sort out the registration during business hours and then cross back into Thailand for the water festival and then after that go back to Myanmar and ride to Yangon.  So I effectively did 2 land entries in a few days. Over a 10 day period.

Ok so I have used up my 2 crossings....but..... I need to do the same thing again. Have to go to Myawaddy cross to Mae sot Thailand come back to Myawaddy for a pagoda consecration 2 or 3 days later and then back to Mae Sot Thailand for a couple of nights then back to Myawaddy and onto Yangon. So I need to do another 2 land entries in a few days total of 5 days.

So whats my chances of getting stopped on entry into Thailand?  Anyone been stopped. I dont stay in Thailand for more than 7 days but this is pushing the literalness of the rules.  If they refuse me entry I will just stay in Myawaddy for the duration. 

Anyone got experience of being stopped who is doing short trips like this. Whatever happens I will let you know here. But my example shows a variant which  is not really the reason for the rule but a consequence if they get literal.

And if I get a visa and do it I am still unable to get two trips on 7 days... So I am going to have to rely on the wisdom and mood of the border immigration officer.

Thai embassy Yangon requires:  http://www.thaiembassy.org/yangon/en/services/33445-Tourist-Visa.html

Basic Documents required:

1. passport which validity is no less than 6 months

2. visa application form completely filled in

3. 2 recent color photos (3.5x4.5 cm)

4. invitation letter (if any)

5. confirmed round trip air ticket or hotel reservation/accommodation reference (for travelling through border)

6. 40USD visa fee -- we accept only new USD note. good condition. No mark, no scratch

From this I would assume you will get 30 days when you reenter Thailand from any port.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Thailand#30_days_waiver_.286_nations.29

So if I was you I would get the 28 visa and cross to Myanmar. 

Someone has to be made an example of so the others learn from it and be prepared.

No onward flight and not enough funds to demonstrate seems to be the considerations used to deny entrance.

Plus a past track record which will be on his records.

With a few simple precautions he would not be in this predicament. Worse things could happen.

I wish him luck in getting out of trouble. Be prepared. 

The worrying thing is that when the Thais refuse the entry the refused person does not appear to get a very good explanation or get told options of what they can do. There seems to be some better info supplied there.

The airline that brought him in should be responsible to take him out too as far as I have heard. Which is why they can check. I get this all the time with Myanmar nationals going to Thailand. They get asked to show money by the Nok air counter staff in Yangon. 

There are four overland entry points into Myanmar from Thailand. You only have 2.

(a) Tachilek – Maisai 

(b) Myawaddy – Mae Sot

(c) Htee Kee – Phunaron

(d) Kawthoung – Ranong

And it is Myanmar not Burma maybe......

On 9/14/2016 at 4:39 PM, alant said:

Don't you love ASEAN

It can only get better over time.

I import bikes into Myanmar so these are the things you need to consider for any country to do it legally.

You may need an export licence from Thailand.

You may need an import licence from Cambodia.

You may need to pay the import duties in Cambodia.

You will need to know the registration requirements for Cambodia. e.g  In Myanmar cannot be used or older than 6 years.

Depending on the type and value of the motorcycle and time and effort you want to put in you may find it is simpler to sell your bike in Thailand and buy another bike in Cambodia. Imported bikes there are cheaper than in Thailand from what I know. Thailand has a 70% import duty on foreign made bikes. So here in Thailand a made in Thailand bike is the cheapest option. Cambodia is likely to have Vietnam made Hondas etc there.

There is nothing to worry about if you are staying less than 30 days each time and you make any number of trips with gaps larger than the stays in between. It is not a pattern that would concern them.

I do about 10 to 12 trips a year with 3 days to 14 days in each trip. Never been questioned.

If you add it all up I spend 2 months per year in Thailand.

The pattern they are looking for is 30 days stay. Short time away. 30 day stay. Which means 6 months in Thailand in a year.

It is not the number of visas but the pattern and length of stay in Total.

Thats the trigger but your explanation when asked is the next step. Your funding and your reasons and where you stay while there.

Its a great system and privilege they have in place which should not be abused for other purposes.

Countries that run a visa system like this all have better tourism outcomes in response. The net result is positive.

Wait until they bring it in in Myanmar where I live. Will be a big boom.

Myanmar have introduced a policy like this for some Asean states and the results are greatly increased tourism. 

Oh yes and as an after thought thanks for the helpful information which helps us to build a pattern on what they think is the correct use of visas.

If we examine the  pattern of your entries, extensions and exits over the two year period  with what you are saying 2

to 3 visits to USA of 6 weeks per year. you are spending about 9 months of each  year in Thailand doing almost back to backs.

 It is close enough for them to be suspicious that you are indeed working in Thailand or not a legitimate tourist so using the allowances instead of getting another visa.

But they werent being nice about it. They could have say given you 15 days entry and told you to get a proper visa.

So did they ask you how you supported yourself doing this?

What your occupation was etc?

Anyway you have crossed the undefined line in that officers eyes and you know yourself you must have been close to it.

You should be fine if you apply for an appropriate visa and plan longer breaks between visits to Thailand. Stay away a month between visits for example.