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RT@Aim_NT: Pedestrians, pls be prepared, it will be long. We will stay overnight, unless we win, we won't go home: Suthep

9.18pm 8/12/2013

Oh, then tomorrow is not last day, again...

RT@Aim_NT: I beg tv stations to use ur conscience and fairly consider provide coverage of the Great People's rally: Suthep.

Subtle threatening media as mafia. What a disgusting little man.

Congratulations to the young lad, and shame to those posters that still call the dead red shirt, instead to leave him to rest in peace.

It would be a great gift for the country if all of these Democrat MPs would just vanish from the surface of the Earth.

Dems MPs joining the thugs in the streets... Too funny. I hope they don't end up with a broken nail

And people did vote for these traitors? Incredible.

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If all Dems and PTP could vanish in this instant,this Country could finally have less hatred, and could try to rebuild democracy from 0.

That would be a great gift.

Seems to me, that 1 protester was (perhaps) killed by a red shirt, 3 others were red shirts killed by (maybe) the protesters

and the unfortunate guy on the bus who seems to be either a protester or a re shirt (depending which article you read),

but who was certainly killed when the protestors torched the bus.

Support which ever side you want, but let's try to use known facts and not make stuff up.

no facts, but made-up stuff: perhaps - maybe - unfortunate - protestors torched the bus

facts are: the yellows were peaceful before the red mob interfered

the first killing was NOT a protester, but a student at his university

"red shirts killed by (maybe) the protesters"? maybe made-up?

maybe killed by red shirts as 'collateral damage' by 'friendly fire' - maybe even by purpose (cui bono?)

"unfortunate guy on the bus"? "certainly killed when the protestors torched the bus"? certainly??

more likely trapped & killed by his raging arsonist accomplice, another 'red-shirt-guard', another 'collateral damage by friendly FIRE'

'their orders come from far away...this is not the way we put an end to war'

Lol your post is full of certainty, but... from which facts?

The tragic thing is while we try to find to understand things how went, both sides are giving fault to each other and no one will give back 5 people dead to their family.

Everyone is guilty because kill 3 red shirts, one student and another guy is not justifiable by anything! Or you would say opposite? As you said that first one to be killed was not red shirt.

How would the police know? They abandoned the area after watching the reds kill protesters in cold blood without doing anything. The army had to come in and rescue the students, the police let it all happen. Not to be trusted!

Why you have to change facts as better you like? Anyway... If you happy to tell something that is not true, it's your business.

Is there anyone on here who can think of a good solution to this ?

As I wrote already in another thread some days ago, the best solution is:

1) Out of the games ALL politicians that ruined this country. The Shin clan, Suthep and same specie...

2) A person above all (neutral and who loves His country), who will install a government formed by technical eminent and neutral personalities.

They must been out from the previous government, if possible young (not teenager huh - lol) and passionate minds, with open mind and open to foreign influences (of course positive ones!), not connected to the Elite and to the influential politicians.

3) Delete corruption, reform democracy, army, police and stress on law enforcement. Reform the disastrous education system. I'd start from here.

Leave this government work for 4 years, after that new elections could be called, but all the old crap politics/elite class must be excluded from that call.

I think this could be a solution, but in Thailand I'm afraid it's pure utopia.

Some good ideas but totally impractical and impossible to realise....now back to the real world....

Maybe you should have read my last sentence

He is talking about both, probably.

Who just demonize Thaksin and not understand who is Suthep is very short sighted...

Suthep is not an angel, but if he can get rid of the Shinawatra clan I would by him a beer anytime.

Oh well, remember palm oil... If Suthep gets power, will be no any different from Thaksin.

Both of them deserve to be locked in jail to rotten.

He should give up now. he belongs in jail. he has done too much to hurt Thai people and the country. He does not stand for democracy - he wants to be the ruler of Thai people like they had 50 years ago. That is not democracy.

I assume you are talking about Thaksin

He is talking about both, probably.

Who just demonize Thaksin and not understand who is Suthep is very short sighted...

Yingluck has offered to resign. Surely that is good enough for a start. This guy keeps demanding more and more: "total extermination". I don't believe this govt has done anything wrong in the way it has handled this situation. Sure, the amnesty bill was badly managed but insufficient grounds to be demanding that the clock to wound back to suit these uber nationalists

Yah right!! She said she would resign and dissolve parliament. two days later she said NO WAY!!! She has done more damage to

Thailand, than Obama has done to the United States!!!!

If the big strategist Suthep kept a low aim and ask her with all protest movement to resign and bring to new election, she would have refused and he would have been the winner.

But now he is a pathetic loser, luckily.

How many D days are there in the alphabet?

Da - Db - Dc - ..... - Dz

RT@Aim_NT: If brothers and sisters don't come out on 9 December, I will go to jail: Suthep. Via @MrNaling

Time is a gentleman...

A referendum to decide who will make people council (said a parliament usually)?

So it has been done already

...for all of you who like to deny Thaksin's involvement with the current government. How's this for "proof"?

I never denied Thaksin involvement with actual government, but I wouldn't affirm this is a proof.

The rice scheme is an undeniable proof. Thaksin fooling around farmers for get votes and money. That's a proof.

Suthep will probably get out after Monday, but the students will continue. Not even half way through yet.

Thaksin shot him self in the foot at Ramkhamheang University last weekend, in 1973 the students won the end game against the corrupt Thanom government and they will kick out the Shinawatra clan as well.

I hate talking about Thaksin, but I would really like to be enlightened on how he shot him self in his foot at Ramkhamhaeng University last weekend...

Ohh, I thought that you were paid by Thaksin as a ghost writer.

Getting the Ramkhamheang University students seeing red was not a very clever move, or do you believe that it wasn't an order issued by Thaksin to get the red skirts shooting at the students?

Fact. You need to show facts if you are so sure of what you write.

And no, I am not Thaksin's dolphin or hidden writer.

I like the truth

We don't know if Thaksin ordered red shirt to go to Rajamangala stadium (if he did, he is more stupid than I thought).

And look: surprise! 3 red shirts died in the clashes! Maybe Thaksin ordered to kill them for let people pity them, don't you think so?

Oh and by the way, if in the topic we are talking about "Suthep wrong man in the right time", why you have to talk about Thaksin? Not enough points to assigns to Suthep?

Suthep will probably get out after Monday, but the students will continue. Not even half way through yet.

Thaksin shot him self in the foot at Ramkhamheang University last weekend, in 1973 the students won the end game against the corrupt Thanom government and they will kick out the Shinawatra clan as well.

I hate talking about Thaksin, but I would really like to be enlightened on how he shot him self in his foot at Ramkhamhaeng University last weekend...

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Its Like you read my my mind, the only difference is I think there are most probably some good politicians in both party's and maybe some of the smaller party's, and then it could still the political party's happy and make Thailand more stable.

I agree with you about that, sure have some good politician out there that could help this country to go out from the total chaos it is in now.

But I am afraid, that people would still see them as Thaksin, Abhisit, or Suthep...

Just look at some posts here on TV... "or with me or against me!"

Is there anyone on here who can think of a good solution to this ?

As I wrote already in another thread some days ago, the best solution is:

1) Out of the games ALL politicians that ruined this country. The Shin clan, Suthep and same specie...

2) A person above all (neutral and who loves His country), who will install a government formed by technical eminent and neutral personalities.

They must been out from the previous government, if possible young (not teenager huh - lol) and passionate minds, with open mind and open to foreign influences (of course positive ones!), not connected to the Elite and to the influential politicians.

3) Delete corruption, reform democracy, army, police and stress on law enforcement. Reform the disastrous education system. I'd start from here.

Leave this government work for 4 years, after that new elections could be called, but all the old crap politics/elite class must be excluded from that call.

I think this could be a solution, but in Thailand I'm afraid it's pure utopia.

Let's pray everything will be solved without violence and will be really over on Monday, even if IMHO, if protest won't be successful, Suthep won't turn himself in, so will be not over.

Suthep's play is an all or nothing rally Monday morning ...... Will he fill the streets?

Hard to say, but I guess we will see how his speech are influencing people on Monday.

I would like to leave a lol to a part of his speech: "If the people don't come, I will go turn myself in, no more fight: Suthep Thaugsuban 9.59pm 6/Dec/2013"

I listened these words from him already 4 times since last week

Come on, you don't really believe what you just said, do you? Really?

There's a million other reason to see why Thaksin is involved in the Government. Some words of his lawyer (one of his lawyers), is not showing us who is running the PT, Govt, and country... Imho...

First, better you put your message after quoting

Second, I guess you did not get what I meant.

I mean we have already a million reasons to see as Thaksin is involved in leading the country from Dubai, and much more clear than an interview of his lawyer.

Read well before reply

From the first post:

Shots were fired and ping pong bombs were thrown at two protest sites of the anti-Thai regime demonstrators last night at the Democracy Monument and the Finance Ministry, wounding two security guards and a youth.

I know about the anti-Thaksin and Pro-Thaksin factions, but haven't heard of any faction that is against Thais in general..

Lol, I missed the refuse...

strategic error....

Indeed is a strategic error, and shows both side are intransigent and hungry of power...

Indeed, lawyers don't talk for themselves they talk for their clients.

Headline should read "Thaksin opposes........................................."

Once again we see who is really running the PT, the Govt and the country.

There's a million other reason to see why Thaksin is involved in the Government. Some words of his lawyer (one of his lawyers), is not showing us who is running the PT, Govt, and country... Imho...

So who do you think is running the government? After all, we have seen just how experienced Yingluck is!

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Read my post again and try again.

newcomer71, on 06 Dec 2013 - 10:38, said:

None of his business, but a good chance for free advertisement for himself...

He is the leader of Thailand's mouthpiece. Whatever he says is very relevant to the current situation.

Indeed, lawyers don't talk for themselves they talk for their clients.

Headline should read "Thaksin opposes........................................."

Once again we see who is really running the PT, the Govt and the country.

There's a million other reason to see why Thaksin is involved in the Government. Some words of his lawyer (one of his lawyers), is not showing us who is running the PT, Govt, and country... Imho...

The black shirts can never be arrested as they work for Thaksin.....

They should be jailed for life term as should be jailed for life who killed the Ramkhamhaeng student, and should be jailed for life who killed 3 red shirts last week.

But we all know no one will pay for this.