Fryslan boppe

Populism refers to "programs for ordinary people"...So in the context of this quote, the statement actually says that "Political programs for ordinary people is a bad thing"

When the promises offer hope, but actually deliver despair, please explain how that isn't a 'bad thing'

Farmers have committed suicide already, do first time car buyers have to start doing the same thing before you come to realise how foul your messages are?

"When the promises offer hope, but actually deliver despair, please explain how that isn't a 'bad thing'

Convince the electorate in the re-scheduled election.

A problem I see re-occuring all the time, is many people buy Opposition charges holus-bolus....As if what the Opposition says and accuses, is all gospel.

In western democracies, Opposition noise is taken "with a grain of salt".....If the populace got fired up everytime the Opposition opposed something, and called it the "mother of all travesties", they would be fired up all the time.

If the electorate buys this stuff, and throws the bums out on their ear, your point is valid...If not, it is invalid.

The opposition will have all the opportunities it needs to convince the electorate in the upcoming election...Unless of course if they are succesful in avoiding another one by circumventing them with the imposition of a Civilian Dictatorship......

Good luck with Governance after that.

Now I am convinced you are from somewhere like North Korea! "In western democracies, Opposition noise is taken "with a grain of salt".....If the populace got fired up everytime the Opposition opposed something" Well in the West that is how OPPOSITIONS BECOME THE GOVERNMENT... DOH!

And that is how things are challenged and changed to BETTER the country as a whole. DOH!! I still want to meet you...... Good for me maybe not for you

Surprise, surprise...I agree with you!

That is absolutely how the Opposition in the West becomes the Government...and all the power to them.

There is no reason that shouldn't be happening in Thailand.

Everyone is served by competitive elections and a balance of power in parliament.

What should be happening to achieve that goal?......Two things:

1. The Lumpini crowd, the DP and all its' appendages should be contemplating one thing...How do we reform ourselves to become electorally competitive.......Forget about blaming everyone else and the system for your electoral futility......Their mantra ought to be ......"reform ourselves before the election.
2. Quit obstructing elections, get your ass into Parliament, commit yourself to Electoral and Parliamentary Democracy and adapt yourself to function effectively within it.

"...to bear the negative impact of political populism"

It is one thing to discuss the pro's and con's of Govt. programs, another to advance political theory while doing so.

Left unchallenged, such negating of political theory and underlying principles, could be viewed as gospel....Left unchallenged, the self-serving motives would be obscured....Puts into context, over-the-top denigration of such programs by the PAD-Dem's, and why you see them seeking out each and every possible program hitch, and magnifying them.

The Ammart is opposed to what the above quote calls "political populism"...Let's be sure we know what that means.....

Populism refers to "programs for ordinary people"...So in the context of this quote, the statement actually says that "Political programs for ordinary people is a bad thing"

And that is the mantra of BKK. centered political circles, who decry what they see as national financial wherewithal being wasted on ordinary folks not of their station.

Does that give you a clue as to their electoral futility? Does that give you an inkling about all the furor and noise they generate against Govt. programs designed to 'spread the wealth'.

It is why the Lumpini crowd wants to establish a Civilian Dictatorship of their own kind, to put an end to such programming which does not cater to them exclusively....

The only way they can do that is non-electorally.

Go away and drown in Sonkran. Don't you ever learn? You must be very very poorly educated or you are a relative of fat boy in North Korea. I would really love to meet you ANYWHERE as I am rich and can afford to travel. I would really love to show you a thing or two about your sprouting off at everything to support this crooked regime and I will be alone, just you and me discussing the virtues of how to solve the ills of this world over a nice gin and tonic.

that way I could really see the ideologies first hand and maybe understand you more because here, i like so many others, have no idea what planet you are coming from.

"Go away and drown in Sonkran"

LOL

Sincerely, that is funny and creative

"It is good to see all three of the Armed Forces' commanders and police chief come to me every year. This shows we all have friendship and I have the Armed Forces as good friends,"

Lord, what away to run a business!

Thailand is too fixated on ritual. Remember the USSR? Western intelligence services (an oxymoron?) used to have to wait for the annual weapons parade to then analyze photos and see who was in favor and who was off (or at the fringes of) the podium. Similar now to N.Korea and China, where, in a typical Asian way, we don't get plain talk, but instead have to read the tea leaves to gauge who's in, and who's out of favor with the power brokers.

Though I have no love for the Shinawatres, I do respect how Ms Yingluck didn't automatically/mechanically kowtow - by presenting pink flowers to Prem. I acknowledge ritual is needed in Thailand, particularly in such a stratified, superstitious society, but as with anything, ritual can be overdone. What's needed is straight talk and more egalitarianism. But that won't happen. The rich will keep getting richer, and the peons will keep getting poorer, but at least the little people can throw buckets of water at each other for a week each year. Whoopee!

How much do those generals and admirals and all those hundreds of hangers-ons (at Prem's ritual) garner in cumulative salary each day? All those tax-paid salaries were paid, so they could kneel and wai at Prem.

"How much do those generals and admirals and all those hundreds of hangers-ons (at Prem's ritual) garner in cumulative salary each day? All those tax-paid salaries were paid, so they could kneel and wai at Prem"

His home is also owned by the taxpayer, btw.

Populism refers to "programs for ordinary people"...So in the context of this quote, the statement actually says that "Political programs for ordinary people is a bad thing"

When the promises offer hope, but actually deliver despair, please explain how that isn't a 'bad thing'

Farmers have committed suicide already, do first time car buyers have to start doing the same thing before you come to realise how foul your messages are?

"When the promises offer hope, but actually deliver despair, please explain how that isn't a 'bad thing'

Convince the electorate in the re-scheduled election.

A problem I see re-occuring all the time, is many people buy Opposition charges holus-bolus....As if what the Opposition says and accuses, is all gospel.

In western democracies, Opposition noise is taken "with a grain of salt".....If the populace got fired up everytime the Opposition opposed something, and called it the "mother of all travesties", they would be fired up all the time.

If the electorate buys this stuff, and throws the bums out on their ear, your point is valid...If not, it is invalid.

The opposition will have all the opportunities it needs to convince the electorate in the upcoming election...Unless of course if they are succesful in avoiding another one by circumventing them with the imposition of a Civilian Dictatorship......

Good luck with Governance after that.

She deserves the sympathy she gets (and then some) but not the free publicity to promote absolutist political views.

She's an extremist and a true believer who needs to be protected against those that exploit her loss for political purposes. She cooperates too willingly.

The article is on the whole revealing, instructive, a red warning flag. I hadn't considered the Nation could go this far over to the far right. Feudalism here is an ideology that goes far deeper than even I had thought. Feudalism is indeed sacred and democracy pales by comparison.

Well, in one sense you're right. It seems a red flag for some to get out of the woodworks and proclaim a widow has absolutist political views.

So, just for the fun of it, where did she promote absolute political views? Didn't youl ike the ""We need brave people to say what is right and what is wrong. We need a society that accepts rules and regulations."

Or didn't you like the "adding that all parts of society must share the responsibility of setting good moral standards." ?

Or is it just a kneejerk reaction on having Ms. Yingluck put in a less positive light?

"We need brave people to say what is right and what is wrong. We need a society that accepts rules and regulations."

Implying of course that Suthep is a very brave person, trying to eliminate electoral democracy with a Civilian Dictatorship....

The other point in this quote is trying to normalize the abnormal state of the judiciary and so-called Indendent Agencies....Suggesting their anti-democratic diktats should be accepted...... If not, one is unlawful.

It is all "in the eye of the beholder"

I have seen other references to fuzzy-wuzzies such as in this case, talking of 'moral standards". Suggesting that aversion to coup advocacy activities and their self-serving justifications, have connotations other than political.

Something wrong with grieving the loss of a family member to disseminate political inaccuracies.

>>>"Nicha's husband General Romklao Thuvatham was killed in a clash with red-shirt protesters at Khok Wua intersection in 2010. The red shirts were at the time protesting against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"

The Red Shirts at the time were not protesting "against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"...They were protesting a coup which had stolen their electoral choice and the imposition of a coup-rooted Govt....It was all about Electoral Democracy....Not about the Govt. in place at the time...Same as today.

>>>"Those who were responsible for the wrongdoings in 2010 are once again threatening the lives of innocent people in 2013-2014"

No they are not.

Trying to link the Lumpini coup-advocacy crowd with anti-coup protesters of 2010, is again an example of PAD-Dem's trying to contextualize historical events according to their spin. Everyone has their own take on who is the source of violence this time.

Articles of this nature ought to express concerns about all grieving relatives of those killed in 2010, not just one. What about the widow of Seh Daeng? What about the widows and parents of over 90 Red Shirts who were mowed down by the Coup-maker incited military...........Plus, it should not try to weave political innuendo into it. All those other's have political opinions as well, and perhaps more valid than this lady.

Let's separate Politics from grieving relatives, so one can sympathize with them, instead of being affronted by narrow political interests.

Please explain why the red shirts that killed 20+ officials (in 2010) haven't been caught? Please also explain why the guys that killed 20+ peaceful protestors (in 2014) haven't been caught. In fact, in both cases nobody has been caught till today.

Why is Thaksin's government not interested in catching and bringing these brutal (child) killers to justice? They are obviously hiding something.

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He may not answer until tomorrow, unless he has a good mug of café. Now it is 11:59 PM in Toronto

He might be very close to Thailand. Just like Thaksin was when he told his red army to start attacking security forces.

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That is a spin I have heard from many PAD-Dem's....suggesting the coup-maker attack, including this General, on the pro-electoral R'song protesters, was a matter of security.

Similar to today, where the military is trying to hide their participation in Suthep's coup-advocacy activities, as being one of providing security.

It doesn't fool too many people, unless they want to be.

Something wrong with grieving the loss of a family member to disseminate political inaccuracies.

>>>"Nicha's husband General Romklao Thuvatham was killed in a clash with red-shirt protesters at Khok Wua intersection in 2010. The red shirts were at the time protesting against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"

The Red Shirts at the time were not protesting "against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"...They were protesting a coup which had stolen their electoral choice and the imposition of a coup-rooted Govt....It was all about Electoral Democracy....Not about the Govt. in place at the time...Same as today.

>>>"Those who were responsible for the wrongdoings in 2010 are once again threatening the lives of innocent people in 2013-2014"

No they are not.

Trying to link the Lumpini coup-advocacy crowd with anti-coup protesters of 2010, is again an example of PAD-Dem's trying to contextualize historical events according to their spin. Everyone has their own take on who is the source of violence this time.

Articles of this nature ought to express concerns about all grieving relatives of those killed in 2010, not just one. What about the widow of Seh Daeng? What about the widows and parents of over 90 Red Shirts who were mowed down by the Coup-maker incited military...........Plus, it should not try to weave political innuendo into it. All those other's have political opinions as well, and perhaps more valid than this lady.

Let's separate Politics from grieving relatives, so one can sympathize with them, instead of being affronted by narrow political interests.

Please explain why the red shirts that killed 20+ officials (in 2010) haven't been caught? Please also explain why the guys that killed 20+ peaceful protestors (in 2014) haven't been caught. In fact, in both cases nobody has been caught till today.

Why is Thaksin's government not interested in catching and bringing these brutal (child) killers to justice? They are obviously hiding something.

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Diversionary nonsense in the face of Military killings of over 90 pro-democracy demonstrators in 2010.

Something wrong with grieving the loss of a family member to disseminate political inaccuracies.

>>>"Nicha's husband General Romklao Thuvatham was killed in a clash with red-shirt protesters at Khok Wua intersection in 2010. The red shirts were at the time protesting against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"

The Red Shirts at the time were not protesting "against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"...They were protesting a coup which had stolen their electoral choice and the imposition of a coup-rooted Govt....It was all about Electoral Democracy....Not about the Govt. in place at the time...Same as today.

>>>"Those who were responsible for the wrongdoings in 2010 are once again threatening the lives of innocent people in 2013-2014"

No they are not.

Trying to link the Lumpini coup-advocacy crowd with anti-coup protesters of 2010, is again an example of PAD-Dem's trying to contextualize historical events according to their spin.

Articles of this nature ought to express concerns about all grieving relatives of those killed in 2010, not just one. And not try to weave political innuendo into it.

You said " The red shirts were protesting a coup that had stolen their electoral choice" ???

You did not mention why there was a coup ??? you did not mention Thaksin ???? the red shirts were just not protesting (peacefully) they were armed to the teeth, kids with them behind barriers of sharpened bamboo, Forget the photo's did we, you are one biased poster out to gain what??? an opinion is one thing a wind up is another. This was a mob that was prepared to fight anyone, and it is ingrained to this day, for the sake of a convicted Thai national on the run.

You post on some true events BUT omit the most important ones that go against your stand supporting the reds.

There is another article today discussing how Thai society deeply polarised.

The above comments show why.

Framing the pro-democracy protests of 2010 as being in a political vauum....Magnifying and denigrating the protesters reactions to a coup, but never mentioning the coup.....Trying to characterize them as anarchistic with no motive other than generalized mayhem

The above comments reflect arrogant PAD-Dem disrespect for their political opposites, manifested via their many statements denigrating Red Shirts as being lesser people, mindless dolts and uni-dimensionally attached to Thaksin, only raised to political advocacy according to what they are paid.

This understandably engenders hatred from them.

Talk about polarization!

Why did they wait 4 years to protest the coup?

Thaksin's trial verdict and a call to arms

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Demonizing the UDD/RS as being uni-dimensionally attached to Thaksin will prevent the DP from ever winning an election...They believe that nonsense and never evolve a diverse electoral planks that will appeal to a diverse electorate.

How does one win votes from an electoral majority that one doesn't respect and denigrates at every turn....the answer?.....They don't.

Why did it take four years?.....Not sure of exact dates, but for arguments sake, let me work with four years.....That is when they gravitated to Bangkok. The anti-coup forces began organizing shortly after the 2006 coup, had ever-growing rallies throughout Thailand which were studiously avoided by the mainstream media......Given that biased media black-out, it is no wonder Bangkokkians wondered where the H... these people had materialized from.

But materialize they did, to the eternal grief of the ever-present coup-makers when they lose ANOTHER election....The growth of this pro-electoral and anti-coup majority was an unintended consequence of the 2006 coup, and is befuddling them now.

They are knee-jerk coup-makers, often using surreptitious means to advance themselves, but they are hesitating now....They are worried...If they pull the coup-trigger via their judiciary and so-called Independent Agencies, they are not quite sure what will happen....That wasn't a concern before 2006.

Something wrong with grieving the loss of a family member to disseminate political inaccuracies.

>>>"Nicha's husband General Romklao Thuvatham was killed in a clash with red-shirt protesters at Khok Wua intersection in 2010. The red shirts were at the time protesting against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"

The Red Shirts at the time were not protesting "against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"...They were protesting a coup which had stolen their electoral choice and the imposition of a coup-rooted Govt....It was all about Electoral Democracy....Not about the Govt. in place at the time...Same as today.

>>>"Those who were responsible for the wrongdoings in 2010 are once again threatening the lives of innocent people in 2013-2014"

No they are not.

Trying to link the Lumpini coup-advocacy crowd with anti-coup protesters of 2010, is again an example of PAD-Dem's trying to contextualize historical events according to their spin.

Articles of this nature ought to express concerns about all grieving relatives of those killed in 2010, not just one. And not try to weave political innuendo into it.

You said " The red shirts were protesting a coup that had stolen their electoral choice" ???

You did not mention why there was a coup ??? you did not mention Thaksin ???? the red shirts were just not protesting (peacefully) they were armed to the teeth, kids with them behind barriers of sharpened bamboo, Forget the photo's did we, you are one biased poster out to gain what??? an opinion is one thing a wind up is another. This was a mob that was prepared to fight anyone, and it is ingrained to this day, for the sake of a convicted Thai national on the run.

You post on some true events BUT omit the most important ones that go against your stand supporting the reds.

There is another article today discussing how Thai society deeply polarised.

The above comments show why.

Framing the pro-democracy protests of 2010 as being in a political vauum....Magnifying and denigrating the protesters reactions to a coup, but never mentioning the coup.....Trying to characterize them as anarchistic with no motive other than generalized mayhem

The above comments reflect arrogant PAD-Dem disrespect for their political opposites, manifested via their many statements denigrating Red Shirts as being lesser people, mindless dolts and uni-dimensionally attached to Thaksin, only raised to political advocacy according to what they are paid.

This understandably engenders hatred from them.

Talk about polarization!

Complete rubbish, your lot have been thrown out the last three time in power---I wonder why ???---coincidence--or did they commit crime ???

"---I wonder why ???-"

Because of the crime of non-competitive elections primarily...The underlying reasons those who are electorally disadvantaged agitate to attain political power via non-electoral means.

One sees it repeating itself again currently...Although they try use the cover of their user-friendly judiciary, Independent Organizations and military.

But it all boils down to non-competitive elections.....If they could win an election, everything would be different.

Something wrong with grieving the loss of a family member to disseminate political inaccuracies.

>>>"Nicha's husband General Romklao Thuvatham was killed in a clash with red-shirt protesters at Khok Wua intersection in 2010. The red shirts were at the time protesting against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"

The Red Shirts at the time were not protesting "against the Abhisit Vejjajiva government"...They were protesting a coup which had stolen their electoral choice and the imposition of a coup-rooted Govt....It was all about Electoral Democracy....Not about the Govt. in place at the time...Same as today.

>>>"Those who were responsible for the wrongdoings in 2010 are once again threatening the lives of innocent people in 2013-2014"

No they are not.

Trying to link the Lumpini coup-advocacy crowd with anti-coup protesters of 2010, is again an example of PAD-Dem's trying to contextualize historical events according to their spin.

Articles of this nature ought to express concerns about all grieving relatives of those killed in 2010, not just one. And not try to weave political innuendo into it.

You said " The red shirts were protesting a coup that had stolen their electoral choice" ???

You did not mention why there was a coup ??? you did not mention Thaksin ???? the red shirts were just not protesting (peacefully) they were armed to the teeth, kids with them behind barriers of sharpened bamboo, Forget the photo's did we, you are one biased poster out to gain what??? an opinion is one thing a wind up is another. This was a mob that was prepared to fight anyone, and it is ingrained to this day, for the sake of a convicted Thai national on the run.

You post on some true events BUT omit the most important ones that go against your stand supporting the reds.

There is another article today discussing how Thai society deeply polarised.

The above comments show why.

Framing the pro-democracy protests of 2010 as being in a political vauum....Magnifying and denigrating the protesters reactions to a coup, but never mentioning the coup.....Trying to characterize them as anarchistic with no motive other than generalized mayhem

The above comments reflect arrogant PAD-Dem disrespect for their political opposites, manifested via their many statements denigrating Red Shirts as being lesser people, mindless dolts and uni-dimensionally attached to Thaksin, only raised to political advocacy according to what they are paid.

This understandably engenders hatred from them.

Talk about polarization!

"Thai crisis is weakening Asean ahead of integration"

As always, need to correct the PAD-Dem take on things, and that usually starts with the story headline as above.

My key question.....Why is there a constant effort by them to hide reality?...Does it embarrass them?

Call it what it is, and go from there.

The attempt to overthrow an elected Govt., eliminate Electoral and Parliamentary Democracy by those who cannot win an election is not a crisis....It is coup advocacy.

So what should the headline be?

How about "The challenge to Thai Democracy is weakening Asean ahead of integration"

Let's be real!

As an aside, does anyone doubt these people pictured and identified as.... Nation Multimedia group chairman Suthichai Yoon, left, and editors of other Asia News Network media organisations... are all PAD-Dem's. Just my assumption, and which explains headlines of this nature.......

It is definitely in the interests of this Lumpini crowd and their DP extensions elsewhere, to blow smoke about a "crisis" while obscuring what is really happening and being clear about it.....They need 'crisis, political deadlock" and all the other terminology they use, to hide their anti-democratic reality and foster notions of political armageddon.

"Democrat party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday (Wednesday) challenged caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to quit the office....."

Basically, what he is saying:

>Electoral majority, I ask that you rescind your votes?

>Please don't force the CC into exposing themselves

Robert,

We can all paraphrase what is said to suit our purpose. Abhisit's call on YL to stand down was clearly explained, so your paraphrasing of what was said is, as usual, designed to put a completely different spin on it...!

well he says

>Electoral majority, I ask that you rescind your votes?

I notice that he fails to mention the majority of the population did not want Yingluck. It was the majority of about 500 people that wanted her. 52% of the population did not want her. That is a conservative estimate with no proof that there was more.

Just common sense tells us that many of them did not want her they wanted Thaksin.

This is just one of many PAD-Dem's trying to spin a Governing Parliamentary Majority into not be a 'majority'

Until elections show otherwise, an electoral majority-minority characterization applies and will be used to designate the two sides.

Thait spot and Fryslan boppe

look forward to your response

Better late than never...Been out all day.

Cheating in versions of acts handed out to the house to vote on

According to the Opposition...True?....In any event, for the Opposition to challenge.

Found guilty by the CC

Of course....DP>>>>>>CC = PTP guilty........Like Amsterdam said, the CC needs to quit being seen as a 'court'.

Cheating in house votes

Parliamentarians should not do that...on all sides of the aisle. For the Speaker to address.

No action taken against offenders by PTP.....

If none was taken, none was needed.

Speakers in both houses assisting in the cheating and stifling of debate

According to the Opposition....True?.....Nothing new in Parliamentary practices. They all seek an edge...Up to the Speaker to manage

Found guilty by the CC and admitted by PTP - no action taken by PTP

See my comment re: CC above...same same....If no action taken by PTP, none was warranted.....If the DP doesn't like that, bloviate about it in Parliament, and take it up with the electorate next election.

Deceiving the public with the amnesty bill

According to the Opposition......they should shout it from the mountain tops, in a televised Parliament and an election campaign....and leave it to the voters to judge...They obviously didn't like that judgment, considering their voting and election obstruction.

PTP knew they had screwed up big time - no responsibility taken by PTP

DP accusatory noise is not taken as gospel...Consider the source... PTP did not screw up because the DP says so.......PTP not take responsibility where no responsibility to be taken......If the DP not like it...stuff it.

Failure to remove a conflict of interest with the amnesty bil

The entire amnesty dust-up was Opposition noise. Why should the 2006 coup-makers actions stand. The voters in the subsequent election repudiated them.....In any event, fight an election over it...They were afraid to...Speaks volumes...

Yingluck passes amnesty that absolves her, her brother, her sister, her sister in law and several othe rfriends, family and colleagues - no conflict of interest?

Absolving what coup-makers charge, leaves nothing to be absolved......Coup-makers self-interestingly charging these people is no "conflict of interest?"....Whitewashing the coup-makers and demonizing Thaksin doesn't fly. The voters repudiated that Ammart stuff soundly....

A <deleted>gitive governing the country from exile

A opposition charge and mantra...Better than coup-makers...All Prime Ministers work in a collegial environment, with a number of advisors...Some more important than others.....No problem Thaksin having input...It didn't bother the electoral majority who were aware of his transparent involvement....Who provided such input to AV?

Another fairy tale with little substance

A reply of less!

Massive loan bill with undefined projects and unregulated spending

For Parliamentary deliberation and Opposition challenges. These are televised and the Opposition had every opportunity to prove these charges to the electorate. Again, they had no confidence to do that..

The Dems were not permitted to debate and the vote was held after the opposotion had gone home having been told that there would be no vote that night but was held at 4am

Is that a problem?.....Stupid Opposition.

Rice scheme with massive losses and unbridled corruption

Take it to televised Parliament, challenge the Govt. and influence the voters...If they are correct about this, the next election will take care of it.

It was taken to parliament in a censure debate. PTP did nothing with the evidence despite promising that they would and the DSI ignored it

Complain in Parliament.

Vote buying

First stop the DP from doing it, and then the PTP....

That's simply BS

Trying the nonsense of attributing vote buying to just one side is ridiculous

Harrassment of opposition canvassers

Take it to law enforcement and the Election Commission.

That was done - the EC advised against holding elections - PTP went ahead

Was that a problem?...It obviously was to those who self-servingly didn't want it to go ahead....Their motives were clear to all.

So, quite simply the PTP have killed all forms of democracy within the house, been found guilty, accept no responsibility and then complain when the legal channels catch up with them. No sympathy

Take it to the electorate.....Come on, I dare you to!..... See how much this DP stuff stands up to electoral scrutiny.

"BANGKOK: -- Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has wished that the Thai traditional New Year will see the country out of political crisis and Thai people will see light in resolving the current political problems."

"I'm a Barbie girl in my Barbie World..."

Truly informative, profound and insightful.

Thank you for that contribution to this discussion, as follow-up to Post #66 above.

"Democrat party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday (Wednesday) challenged caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra to quit the office....."

Basically, what he is saying:

>Electoral majority, I ask that you rescind your votes?

>Please don't force the CC into exposing themselves

'...everyone will come to an agreeable solution to solve the problems in the country"

Everyone in the country doesn't need to come up with an agreeable solution......Only the DP and their appendages in Lumpini and elsewhere need to do that.

The Electoral Majority doesn't need to solve anything.....Unless someone wants to suggest they all change their votes according to their own visions.......Good luck with that.

The solutions the DP and those appendages need to contemplate, is how do we make ourselves electorally competitive.

I am waiting for this pro-DP media to address that question....It would make for a lively, positive and forward-looking discussion in both the political arena and here.

More stenographed bilge on behalf of the Shinawatra mob that does nothing to fix the problems and simply seeks to return the nation to 2006. A precursor for groundhog day.

These are some of the issues that brought us to where we are today:

Cheating in versions of acts handed out to the house to vote on

Cheating in house votes

Speakers in both houses assisting in the cheating and stifling of debate

Deceiving the public with the amnesty bill

Failure to remove a conflict of interest with the amnesty bil

A <deleted>gitive governing the country from exile

Massive loan bill with undefined projects and unregulated spending

Rice scheme with massive losses and unbridled corruption

Vote buying

Harrassment of opposition canvassers

And I shall add - how can anyone have any faith in a police that permits its senior offices to applaud the murder of innocent children without discipline?

How can anyone have faith in a political party that takes no action against their law-breakers?

I look forward to your response.

I look forward to your response

Better late than never...Been out all day.

Cheating in versions of acts handed out to the house to vote on

According to the Opposition...True?....In any event, for the Opposition to challenge.

Cheating in house votes

Parliamentarians should not do that...on all sides of the aisle. For the Speaker to address.

Speakers in both houses assisting in the cheating and stifling of debate

According to the Opposition....True?.....Nothing new in Parliamentary practices. They all seek an edge...Up to the Speaker to manage.

Deceiving the public with the amnesty bill

According to the Opposition......they should shout it from the mountain tops, in a televised Parliament and an election campaign....and leave it to the voters to judge...They obviously didn't like that judgment, considering their voting and election obstruction.

Failure to remove a conflict of interest with the amnesty bil

The entire amnesty dust-up was Opposition noise. Why should the 2006 coup-makers actions stand. The voters in the subsequent election repudiated them.....In any event, fight an election over it...They were afraid to...Speaks volumes...

A <deleted>gitive governing the country from exile

A opposition charge and mantra...Better than coup-makers...All Prime Ministers work in a collegial environment, with a number of advisors...Some more important than others.....No problem Thaksin having input...It didn't bother the electoral majority who were aware of his transparent involvement....Who provided such input to AV?

Massive loan bill with undefined projects and unregulated spending

For Parliamentary deliberation and Opposition challenges. These are televised and the Opposition had every opportunity to prove these charges to the electorate. Again, they had no confidence to do that..

Rice scheme with massive losses and unbridled corruption

Take it to televised Parliament, challenge the Govt. and influence the voters...If they are correct about this, the next election will take care of it.

Vote buying

First stop the DP from doing it, and then the PTP....

Harrassment of opposition canvassers

Take it to law enforcement and the Election Commission.

Overlay all this stuff with an Electoral and Parliamentary template, viewing these issues through that prism, and one has the ability to address them.

None of this stuff is unusual in other Parliamentary Democracies...

Getting all fired up about them and hyperbolizing them, is merely using issues as cover for coupist intentions by unelectables.

Take these issues to Parliament, or an election that Yingluck provided them with.

Not complicated.

I look forward to your response (Thait Spot)

As per above.

'...everyone will come to an agreeable solution to solve the problems in the country"

Everyone in the country doesn't need to come up with an agreeable solution......Only the DP and their appendages in Lumpini and elsewhere need to do that.

The Electoral Majority doesn't need to solve anything.....Unless someone wants to suggest they all change their votes according to their own visions.......Good luck with that.

The solutions the DP and those appendages need to contemplate, is how do we make ourselves electorally competitive.

I am waiting for this pro-DP media to address that question....It would make for a lively, positive and forward-looking discussion in both the political arena and here.

More stenographed bilge on behalf of the Shinawatra mob that does nothing to fix the problems and simply seeks to return the nation to 2006. A precursor for groundhog day.

These are some of the issues that brought us to where we are today:

Cheating in versions of acts handed out to the house to vote on

Cheating in house votes

Speakers in both houses assisting in the cheating and stifling of debate

Deceiving the public with the amnesty bill

Failure to remove a conflict of interest with the amnesty bil

A <deleted>gitive governing the country from exile

Massive loan bill with undefined projects and unregulated spending

Rice scheme with massive losses and unbridled corruption

Vote buying

Harrassment of opposition canvassers

And I shall add - how can anyone have any faith in a police that permits its senior offices to applaud the murder of innocent children without discipline?

How can anyone have faith in a political party that takes no action against their law-breakers?

I look forward to your response.

I look forward to your response

Better late than never...Been out all day.

Cheating in versions of acts handed out to the house to vote on

According to the Opposition...True?....In any event, for the Opposition to challenge.

Cheating in house votes

Parliamentarians should not do that...on all sides of the aisle. For the Speaker to address.

Speakers in both houses assisting in the cheating and stifling of debate

According to the Opposition....True?.....Nothing new in Parliamentary practices. They all seek an edge...Up to the Speaker to manage.

Deceiving the public with the amnesty bill

According to the Opposition......they should shout it from the mountain tops, in a televised Parliament and an election campaign....and leave it to the voters to judge...They obviously didn't like that judgment, considering their voting and election obstruction.

Failure to remove a conflict of interest with the amnesty bil

The entire amnesty dust-up was Opposition noise. Why should the 2006 coup-makers actions stand. The voters in the subsequent election repudiated them.....In any event, fight an election over it...They were afraid to...Speaks volumes...

A <deleted>gitive governing the country from exile

A opposition charge and mantra...Better than coup-makers...All Prime Ministers work in a collegial environment, with a number of advisors...Some more important than others.....No problem Thaksin having input...It didn't bother the electoral majority who were aware of his transparent involvement....Who provided such input to AV?

Massive loan bill with undefined projects and unregulated spending

For Parliamentary deliberation and Opposition challenges. These are televised and the Opposition had every opportunity to prove these charges to the electorate. Again, they had no confidence to do that..

Rice scheme with massive losses and unbridled corruption

Take it to televised Parliament, challenge the Govt. and influence the voters...If they are correct about this, the next election will take care of it.

Vote buying

First stop the DP from doing it, and then the PTP....

Harrassment of opposition canvassers

Take it to law enforcement and the Election Commission.

Overlay all this stuff with an Electoral and Parliamentary template, viewing these issues through that prism, and one has the ability to address them.

None of this stuff is unusual in other Parliamentary Democracies...

Getting all fired up about them and hyperbolizing them, is merely using issues as cover for coupist intentions by unelectables.

Take these issues to Parliament, or an election that Yingluck provided them with.

Not complicated.

'...everyone will come to an agreeable solution to solve the problems in the country"

Everyone in the country doesn't need to come up with an agreeable solution......Only the DP and their appendages in Lumpini and elsewhere need to do that.

The Electoral Majority doesn't need to solve anything.....Unless someone wants to suggest they all change their votes according to their own visions.......Good luck with that.

The solutions the DP and those appendages need to contemplate, is how do we make ourselves electorally competitive.

I am waiting for this pro-DP media to address that question....It would make for a lively, positive and forward-looking discussion in both the political arena and here.