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I wonder if they're saying that (NACC) and what's the protocal of complaints agains the Junta? I thought it wasn't allowed, ergo the NACC would hand over the details of the complainee, and next thing, they might be in an "education camp" .. I don't know, maybe if people were able to be critical then things might progress ???

Nickymaster.. don't forget, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.. there's many people today who still looked upon Nelson Mandella as a terrorist too

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Looks like thaksin needs to stir the bee's nest again due to his waning popularity.

This thaksin cartoon should not be called "looking at stars with feet on the ground" It should be called "Looking at stars through the bars of my cell" He was an unelectable leader of a party that purport to support democracy. Thats says it all.

I cannot blame him really for trying this media stunt after the failed 2014 election results that clearly reflected the public sentiment towards them (especially in the North and North East where there was no protests) after the failed rice scheme, the failed amnesty, the failed 2 trillion baht loan with no transparency, the water management scheme that the PTP refused to allow the public to be involved in. There is only so much disdain for the public by the PTP that the public can put up with before they retract their support. There certainly was a landslide in that 2014 election result. Unfortunately it covered the PTP up like a skiing victim on the snow slopes.

Of course some will refer to an election nearly 4 years ago to gauge the PTP popularity because that is all they have left to cling too. Never mind the nearly infinite polls and the 2014 failed election that showed otherwise. Not one poll, not one result from anywhere showed the PTP on the winning end of anything pertinent to winning an election. And unlike thaksin who knows this and admits to it, some of his ardent supporters still refuse to believe it by making up wonderful excuses for the failed 2014 election and all the polls that cover a cross section of Thailand. thaksin knows they are whimsical excuses so he is being proactive and he wants to snowball (excuse the pun) any efforts to ensure he is not a name of the past. He is scared now his popularity is waning. He is petrified.

Now the Reds are stirring again will that 7% fanatical minority come out purporting to represent the majority?

Rest assured if / when they lose the next election in 2015 thaksin and his supporters will not acknowledge that election result either. The excuses will be the "Junta this" and the "Junta that". Never ever does thaksin or his 7% minority followers ever support any result that does not go their way. When the result goes there way however (2011 election) they will cling to that result like a baby to her mothers teat.

In 60 years if / when the PTP have still not won an election the supporters will still say "The PTP are the majority, just look at the 2011 election results"!! That is PTP logic right there folks. Who says they have a short memory. Selective, yes. Short, no.

See you in Thailand tomorrow thaksin!

Rather than rely on your constant belittling (now where have I heard that before?) of what you perceive to be PTP Logic, which in reality is the imaginings of your fevered mind, let's have a look at a more cogent analysis of what would have happened in the February 2014 had it not been for the EC and suthep and his clowns.

Ultimately, what the early election results have shown is three things.

First, Pheu Thai will emerge as a “weakened” winner. There is no doubt that in both constituency and the PR systems, the incumbent will grasp electoral victory. What they have lost is support from the electorate, particularly some alarming results in the party strongholds in the North and Northeast.

The PDRC met with some success in mobilizing the No Vote and will take credit for the rest of the non-Pheu Thai votes in their next move to demonstrate the illegitimacy of Pheu Thai.

Third, Thai electorates have shown that despite the lower voter turnout, more than 50% of the country still wants to decide their government at the ballot box.

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/2014/02/07/politics-of-electoral-protest-in-thailand/

As for an election in 2015 (if it happens), you have no idea what the junta picked NRC are going to come up with in order to load the decks for that election. So if the PTP lose that election they may well be quite within their rights to blame the junta and their underlings for the result.

Don't say it won't happen, abhisit changed the constitution before the 2011 Election to favour the dems with his raising of the number of party list MP's and reduction of constituency seats. That plan didn't work, probably because after 2010 abhisit was unelectable.

Well fabie, you win the award for longest 'hanging on' to a dying snake.

I take it you never seen the news story a couple of weeks back about the Chinese chef who was going to cook a snake, chopped the head off it, but the severed head apparently managed to bite him, and he died..

There's a moral in there somewhere..

Unlike Chuck Norris who was bitten by a King Cobra and after 5 agonising days the cobra died!!

yes, reading comprehension is an issue with many posters, red, white and yellow, blue, green and purple, as it states they shot at both the Army and the redshirts..

I would not be surprised if they did the same thing as the popcorn shooter, who "confessed" when apprehended ( grassed on) in that come their day in court, or just before retratct their confessions and claim they were made under duress and "beaten" and round and round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows..

All it took was a single complaint lodged to start the case against Yingluck for nepotism eventually removing her from office for an abuse of power... NACC are just like Thaksin...full of it!!

All warfare is based on deception

The M113 wasn't armoured too much IIRC, I think the bulk of it was made from aluminium, and it melted a lot during the Vietnam war, after they got hit, I think when the Israeli's started putting aplique armour on their versions, they fared a little bit better, even BMP's were poorly designed , having the fuel stored in the rear doors.. Brit 432's were not much better, the best thing in them was the BV for making brews..

That's why they only sold 80,000 of them - rubbish.

It's because they were cheap to produce, the armour was made of aluminium, as was most of the vehicle, and they were light and easily portable, that's why so many were sold.

Perhaps you can tell me the melting point of aluminium as opposed to pressed steel? I seen plenty of destroyed M113's in Iraq, the majority of them were melted down to the running gear.. Not so many BMP's were reduced to that state.

Water boarding is a great teller of the truth, love to see these people being arrested and hopefully slammed away, all you liberals save your breath it's wasted on me.

Personal experience then I take it? An innocent man would confess to anything to stop the torture.. have a wee ponder over that one

Chotthee, you can try and spin it all you want, 500,000 baht for a TV is ludicrous, my 51" plasma, made by Samsung cost me 16,000 baht and the mount was about 3,000 baht, and the labour cost to mount it was 2 bottles of beer... so someone in a position of power is taking the piss over the procurement of IT equipment for the new cabinet.

I'm willing to bet you 500,000 baht that when viewd from a distance greater than 2-3m 16.8 Million colours is not even notcieable to the human eye, and my Plasma would show as good a picture!!!

if you had any army knowledge you would realize the apc's are used in tactical withdrawals to avoid the soldiers being shot at by other armed forces/snipers but then I dont expect a red sympathizer to have the necessary knowledge to realize this as it ruins their innuendo, mate, you really need to get your facts right. Before quoting stupid ideas try researching exactly what these vehicles are used for, there goes another conspiracy theory................

You don't come with 6 APC in the night to leave. Like I said, the answers may open up the Pandora box. Either those arrested are set up or the case will be hushed as the answers will be uncomfortable for the establishment.

Mate, loosely snickered here, your knowledge of military withdrawals is based on boy scout credentials. You ;like to make the facts fit your story. The APCs were assigned to a very specific area, the majority of troops left on foot or in trucks, and the APCs showed up before the action commenced and left after it was over...an interesting and hilarious coincidence, of course, you would say...and obviously another red plot..

Yeah right. You are buying what they are selling and trying, weakly, to lend your lack of credibility to an already incredible situation. Mite.

I was a driver/sig then a cc in pcs for many years, I think I know what their role is in warfare. Their name gives them away, APC, armoured personal carriers, they are also fire support vehicles hence using them to cover a withdrawal, you are just so wrong. The only one making a goose of himself is you with your lack of knowledge, they did exactly what they were designed for, try reading what you have written yourself, they were there to cover the withdrawl then they left again, tsk tsk.

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The M113 wasn't armoured too much IIRC, I think the bulk of it was made from aluminium, and it melted a lot during the Vietnam war, after they got hit, I think when the Israeli's started putting aplique armour on their versions, they fared a little bit better, even BMP's were poorly designed , having the fuel stored in the rear doors.. Brit 432's were not much better, the best thing in them was the BV for making brews..

Are they not "innocent" until proven guilty Alex? isn't that not always the case? apart from here in TVF where an amazing panel of expert witnesses arrive at a guilty verdict without having any evidence what so ever in thier possesion, and without a trial having been conducted? ..

Amazing Thailand right enough.. I'd much rather wait till all the evidence was presented and then let the prosecution take place, and if guilty, lock them up, if not, find those who ARE guilty.

last report, the tv was only a 52" ... for 500.000 baht, i expect a 200" at least

Was in Du-Home in Korat a few months back and they had an 80" bad boy for 80,000 baht.. someone is taking the piss on the prices in that new Cabinet.

That's next weeks headlines !!

what do they need a TV for when they've all got fancy little gadgets ? Surely nobody should be watching anything else other than each other during a session of cabinet ministers, and paying attention to what's being debated?

Debated? You're referring to a hand-picked panel of stooges here. There is no room for "debate" in a military dictatorship.

Maybe they'll debate the colour of the wool they're going to use for pulling over peoples eyes?? Or what shade of green for the Army uniforms?

People will always find something to whine about Uncle Rubs, it's human nature.

I just commented about this attack to a forum member who said that Thailand is peaceful now... yes, try telling that to the families who lost loved ones today.

There are terrorists still at work down South, the problem is far from over..

The law should stay forever.

It keep bad people out.

Thailand have never been so peaceful for a long long time.

It's didn't keep the bad people out down South this morning where 4 people were killed and 5 wounded..

Or do you conveniently forget that the South is still part of Thailand, but because it's not invloving the "red shirts" then it doesn't count?

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/759597-four-killed-five-injured-in-militant-attack-in-pattani/

Not a single comment condemning the act, or the perpetrators either from any forum member, that's quite sad that the loss of life there seems to be insignificant, I really wonder if this had been in Bangkok, and done by the "red shirt terrorists" how much of an outcry there would have been ?

Selective Terrorism perhaps?

Maybe they all come with the Star Trek type "univeral translators" in them, and makes everyone talk English?

Quite a few people ripped into YL for her lack of English/Poor/substandard English.. how's the new PM's English?

Simples, they were caught out by some vigilant people..

what do they need a TV for when they've all got fancy little gadgets ? Surely nobody should be watching anything else other than each other during a session of cabinet ministers, and paying attention to what's being debated?

I wonder how many other clients of Bosch bought these at the "wrong" price, and have since recieved their 35% discount?

NACC didn't seem to have crossed the T's and dotted the i's over the Rice scheme either... perhaps a reform is on the cards for them too?

Countdown to next thai coup 3428 day give or take a week....

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That long??

"SOME FARMERS in the North yesterday lodged a complaint with the National Human Rights Commis-sion against a crackdown on land encroachment"

Are these Northern Farmers that highly educated and organised, that they can petition the NRC, or is there someone behind the scenes pulling the strings and taking advantage of these poor people ....AGAIN!!

They seemed organised and educated enough to drive to Bangkok and participate in the anti Government protests.. What a totally derogatory comment to make, I guess you have met all of these Northern farmers to arrive at your statement?

Who was behind them during the protests? It sure wasn't Thaksin, stop making assumptions that all farmers are clueless idiots, who just plant rice!!!

The encouraging thing here is that public outcry has actually had some effect.

Where "effect" is several days of newspaper headlines.

It has happened before and I'm sure it will happen again since "getting rid of corruption" isn't going to happen anywhere in the world. The point is what happens AFTER the newspapers get tired of this story.

Almost no one is noticing that the OAG is in the process of indicting 11 of these Government House people for the clocks purchase. None of the 11 is a pooyai of course, but small victories deserve some notice and frankly some praise. The only way the prosecutors are ever going to dare to go after the Big Shots is if they get some public support for it.

Corruption is part of the culture, it's here to stay, there will always be someone at the take.

Unlike where?

Seriously. An example.

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Corrpution is a global issue without a doubt sir, but the issue isn't whether there are other Governments across the very same globe, the issue is Thailands corruption, and not just that, but the fact the General when he " took over" stated clearly and categorically that he would put an end to it, and what has happened here?? Stevie Wonder can see this isn't all above board and that backhanders have taken place.. THAT is what I mean that corruption is part of the Thai culture, it has gone on before, during and AFTER the PTP are no longer in the drving seat.