eeworldwide

This doesn't take any analysis.

It's happening all over the world.

Covid19 and it's China's fault.

The world as we knew it, is over.

yawn.

Boring.

Wow who cares.

Thailand can survive quite well without foreigners.

Yeah it stings a bit to be turned away, but so what. Life sometimes stings.

Grow a pair and move on.

Booooring!

Oh shut up Greta. Nobody cares and nobody cares about you.

Go and find a life somewhere and shut up.

11 minutes ago, simple1 said:

There is no herd immunity from influenza. There is the annual 'flu' vaccine which worldwide annual deaths at approx 500k instead of millions. Covid is far more infectious (in Oz one person in Sydney from an interstate city with Covid - person zero - has so far caused 34 infections in a cluster within a few weeks. Covid vaccine is predicted to be available in the coming 4 - 12 months with human trails current in some countries, including Australia. Hopefully the Australian government will not permit the US to forward buy the entire production as they have done in at least one other country.

Would you really put faith in the worlds fastest developed vaccine?? And it will take at least a year for a sufficient amount to be produced.

Im in Pattaya as we speak - and it's really quite devastating to see what utter misery this ridiculous Covid19 debacle has wrought upon the most vulnerable, right the way up to the well to do operators.  The beach front bars show the really die hard fatty  expats "supporting" the haggard and withered bar ladies who are sitting embedded in a shroud of doom, gazing listlessly out across the seafront, no doubt, remembering days of old when the gold was a-plenty and the beer flowed like wine. (!)

Street upon street exposes the sheer vast scale of the massage shop network - way too many to be realistic  - there must be literally hundreds of massage girls out of work. That's not going to change any time soon - I think they'd be wise to try and find a new profession.

My hotel is operating at 80-100% at weekends only and then below 10% monday-Friday.

Most of the perks of staying at the hotel have disappeared  - no breakfast buffet and no VIP club where you could graze for free throughout the day, and get free booze and mini-buffet between 6-8pm. Doubtless this is good for the hotel, but it's bad for the clientele. Whilst we receive a considerable basic knock down on the room price, the atmosphere is not the same, and you then have to go far afield to find places to eat. That ramps up your cost, so I'm actually paying twice as much as I'd usually pay for a brief weekend away at my favourite spot.

Im sure there's a novelty factor in how cheap the hotels are at the moment, but the atmosphere has all but gone, and I don't think the Thais can sustain it.
Also the whole rigmarole of temperature scans and signing in and out of places (including your own hotel) is a pain in the neck -a constant reminder of nothing being quite like it was.

The Thai mid-hi society will get bored of it all very soon, there's no "new blood" around - the same old people who (at the moment) can afford to travel and take weekend breaks - but eventually EVERYONE'S business is going to be affected and therefore holidays and leisurely breaks are the first things to be struck off the to-do list.
We're now entering a dangerous new phase of Covid19

America is going under a second wave, but what is also happening is the obvious lack of control. People are bored of this and are dropping their guard. So  we may see an outbreak which overwhelms healthcare systems and devastates whole communities.
 

Closer to home - here in Thailand  - there are a surprising number of cases being caught in quarantine  - which goes to show that Covid19 is out there really strong and as soon as you let people into the country without any quarantine, you're flirting with disaster.

So I would say that Thailand hasn't really experienced ANYTHING yet - it's early days, but expect to see the near total demise of the tourism industry when it comes to zero foreign entry, and unless Thailand sorts out the cost of rail travel and indeed air travel (domestic) it could be a horrible wind of change.

With Air Asia in trouble the future looks really pretty bleak.

With Air Asia defunct, I dont see so many foreign tourists from the region flying in en masse, and they certainly won't be coming from the West. So where are these figures derived from?

7 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Who cares if they all close, over priced booze and over priced prostitutes, strictly for the sex tourist, a dying breed.

100% agree. 

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Woaaah guys. Batten down the hatches!!!

7 Enquiries in ONE DAY!!!

It will be the solution to all of Thailand's woes.

Pretty pathetic to see on a website/forum called THAI VISA  - nobody has a frickin' clue as to the state of people's visa status under the current immigration rules.

What a laugh!

The rant at the top of this post is all well and good, but it's not really addressing the real issue, which IS a Covid19 issue.

A reasonably intelligent person sees the world and analyses the world through reasonably intelligent lenses, but one must not forget the VAST amount of visitors to Thailand who do not give a fig about fine wine and luxury goods.

Thailand has catered to the passing trade of backpackers and students for many years - indeed, one could argue that it is they who brought Thailand her fame.

Tourism had not trickled to a halt - there are too many tantalising things for a basic human to enjoy here, and despite the strength of the baht, strolling down practically any street in Thailand is preferable to strolling down any street in Catford or Birmingham, not least for the climate and cheap food.

Tourism has halted completely BECAUSE of Covid19. 

The real fact of the matter has nothing to do with the rant of our beleaguered expatriot friend, but much more to do with other countries being unable to travel for economic reasons and for logistical and practical reasons too.

Simply put- you know that there is a second wave currently starting up again in the USA and in Europe and next week or so it will be in the UK.

South Korea are all over the shop.

Covid19 doesn't give a flying fig where you're from, she's here to stay and she's good at hide and seek.

Tourism as a GLOBAL concept is over for the foreseeable - so by all means, have a good bitch and moan about how awful the thais in power and in tourism have treated us, I'm still here and very happy - and I suspect you are too.

MY concern is how ANYTHING is going to function properly  - because it's not going to function properly for a HELLUVA long time, and that's got nothing to do with how politely one proffers a wine list.....