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12 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Afaik the official rule is only Thai nationals get the Thai price, all others pay the foreigner price. How much this is enforced depends on the place, some are very strict, some less. A few years ago it was common to get the Thai price by just showing a Thai driving license, today this does hardly work anymore.

I got the Thai price for showing the Pink ID at a National Park in Lamphun. My friend who had a Work Permit with him had to pay farang price. No idea why the difference but anyway

1 minute ago, Michael Hare said:

The national identification number starting with 6 is for foreigners with long term residence. My number starts with 8, as this is for those with PR. When I got my PR 14 years ago no ID card was issued at all. This pink ID card is a fairly recent development. When I first applied for it in Ubon five years ago, no one had a clue at the local city council about such a card. However, I got one in the end. And it is great. It also is for life.

Well done for getting PR. Yes, I should have mentioned that the number for foreigners with PR does change.

 

Is your card for life as normally photo ID cards are only issued (even to Thai nationals) with only 10 years validity?

19 minutes ago, perconrad said:

When I moved from Phuket I went to the local Amphur and said I was moving to Sisaket and they filled out a form which I gave to the Amphur I was moving into and they just made a new yellow book to me, the only extra I handed over was a copy of my passport and my wife should show her blue house book.

Once you gone through the hoops at the local Amphur, and have been issued with a national identification number (starting with 6- for foreigners) by the Thai government, the process of transferring registration from province to province should in theory (in theory, I would emphasise!!) be no more onerous than for a Thai person changing their house registration

6 minutes ago, thairookie said:

I am still wondering why some law firms in Thailand have farang lawyers.

They don't....they have farang 'consultants'. Being a lawyer is a reserved occupation. 

15 hours ago, GuiseppeD said:

Seems like a nice guy and very positive.  Though would appear that his insurance was invalid on this occasion, hence the insurance company not paying out.  It is what it is.

Legally, the insurance company can still be liable under the doctrine of estoppel and representation at least for the additional costs of the more expensive hospital over a cheaper one so they are not in my opinion off the hook unless the insured was dishonest with the insurance company

Did one a year ago cost 10,000 has to be in Thai and English, I have no assets in the UK just Thailand.  Include any life insurance policies and bank account numbers.
 
 

As well as details of any vehicles ( registration details) and any real property ( usually a condo) and personal property ( e.g. furniture and small effects)

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Did one a year ago cost 10,000 has to be in Thai and English, I have no assets in the UK just Thailand.  Include any life insurance policies and bank account numbers.
 
 

Although clearly recommended for a number of reasons, I don't believe that it has to be in Thai as well as English as a matter of law.

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53 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

The visa card  is still available at Bangkok Bank but you have  to push them on it and wait for it to be sent from Bangkok.

I paid for the extra accident insurance with the Siriraj Rabbit Visa Card and got a card straight away

I presume that by sponsoring accommodation you mean that you can stay with your friends rather than they will pay for accommodation for you?

 

If that assumption is correct, I would suggest that you have them provide you with a letter confirming that you can stay with them for x period of time (and whether free or whether you are renting) and confirm how many rooms they have (the accommodation will need to satisfy local authority rules so you can't all stay in the same room, but children of the same sex can share a room).

 

If you were paying rent, you would presumably be their lodgers (which you would be if living under the same roof and not in separate accommodation) but you should check the guidance rules as to what is required as if there are any restrictions on requirements, then they will invariably be stated in guidance notes

 

You are likely to be required to provide details of the accommodation including how many rooms in the property, how many are available for you and your family, cooking and living arrangements and even sizes of the rooms (to ensure compliance with local authority regulations regarding over-crowding) so be prepared for that (and again, this should all be covered in the guidance notes)

 

Staying with family (typically the parents) is actually very common and there are no problems provided that the space requirements are met (so realistically, you would need two rooms for yourself and your wife and one for your kids). 

 

 

On the basis that she does have some stamps in her Thai passport showing exit but no entry back into Thailand, she could go to immigration and clear her overstay in country (possibly by negotiating the overstay fee on the basis that if she argued it and went to Court, then the fine may be much lower than the 20,000 maximum), and then get a 1 year extension based on Thai nationality, which at least means that she can continue to remain in-country and the leave the country without any issues

On ‎17‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 8:39 AM, Tanoshi said:

With respect, I was involved in getting UK documents certified and legalised to be legally accepted documents in a number of Countries

 

A Thai lawyer cannot certify a UK document, neither are the British Embassy prepared to certify his UK documents.

Have you actually read the requirements in 12.

 

If indeed Immigration want the original documents 'legalising' then the process is as I previously posted.

Don't conflate different issues or different requirements

 

I have a reasonable understanding of the legal technicalities of the terms being used (and mis-used) and the technical differences in terminology being bandied around as a qualified legal professional 

 

A suitably qualified Thai lawyer can certify a UK document in appropriate circumstances.

 

That doesn't mean that I am saying that that is the case here. Nor have I done so

 

I made it very clear that my response was very specifically in response to advice that the OP go to a UK Notary which advice clearly demonstrated a lack of knowledge of the legal system and requirements both in the UK and in Thailand.

 

That was all

 

 

 

 

22 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

If the OP needs the documents to be authenticated as genuine, such as the company or organisation issuing them exists and the person signing such is authorised to do so then they will need to be 'notarised' and 'legalised' to be acceptable in Thailand.

 

 

 

I don't understand your point with reference to my clarification

 

Notarisation in Thailand basically means certification which can be done by a Thai lawyer in Thailand or by the Embassy. The poster to whom I was responding was not aware of the (significant) legal difference in the UK (and other jurisdictions) with regard to the specific legal terminology being used. I suspect that you do not either respectfully.

 

Furthermore, Legalisation and Notarisation are by no means the same thing. You may need one or the other or both depending on what is required. In Thailand, notarisation means to get a document certified (usually by a lawyer) which is not particularly difficult or expensive to do. However, that is NOT what it means in the UK as a Solicitor in the UK cannot Notarise a document, but can only certify it. Neither Thai Lawyers nor UK Solicitors are Notary Publics unless they have dual-qualified.  

 

https://www.gov.uk/get-document-legalised

 

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=fee0ad76-1372-46ca-b369-92cd5e4184f8

 

 

It would be helpful if the OP could provide details of exactly what is being requested from immigration

 

Verification can mean either that he requires a letter from the institute providing a certificate to confirm that e.g. that person attended that institution and obtained whatever qualification was provided or it can mean that copies have to be certified (in which case, that could be done within Thailand)

3 hours ago, Tanoshi said:

If you wanted your references and certificates to be recognised as legally acceptable documents in Thailand, you should have had them 'verified' by the Home Office in the UK, then legalised by the Thai Embassy.

A UK Notary could handle the whole thing for you.

A solicitor is qualified to do certifications in the UK. You would not necessarily require a Notary which in the UK (and internationally generally) means a Notary Public, which is a specific legal qualification and function

The yellow book is meant to be proof of address for long-term residents. On that basis, I suspect that it would be difficult to get one if you were on anything apart from a non-immigrant visa. I obtained one within my first year of moving to Thailand, but I had 'bought' a house so I was on the Chanote (usufruct) so I was regarded as a 'permanent' resident, although I was at the time only on a ED Visa, which is only 3 month extensions. I would also mention that I wasn't married when I made the application, so that isn't a bar.

 

I was able to show through the interview, and several other factors, that I was intending to reside long-term in Thailand. Someone who was here, there and everywhere might struggle to show the same commitment to Thailand that they seem to expect before issuing the book (whilst I don't believe that it is strictly necessary, this is how they apply the regulations in my Amphur at least)

 

As others have posted, the yellow book is tied to the house at which you are registered, although if you move within the same Amphur, I am not sure if you get a new book for the new address, or they just issue you with an entirely new book. One of the main points about getting a yellow book is being registered with the Thai national database, which means that you are given a unique ID number (the same as Thai people, save that the number for foreigners starts with a 6- rather than 1- for Thais). So once you have been issued a yellow book in one Amphur, getting another one elsewhere should (in theory) be relatively straightforward, as you shouldn't have to go through the same rigmarole as for the original book as your unique ID number obviously doesn't change.

On ‎28‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 7:31 AM, evenstevens said:

just checked  my records from 12 yrs ago(2005)

my lawyer fees were 8000 baht  with extra rider clauses added to usutruct to provide a safety net for both partys  in any event that it fell off a cliff(so to speak)

the land office fees were 17000 baht   which included all taxes being paid for a 30 year lease in place   at the time i felt very comfortable with the legal agreement put into place  to cover my investment and 12 yrs later it is safe as a bank so all up 25.000 baht to cover your backside hence 12 yrs ago ,small price to pay to have a water tight contractual legal  agreement etc etc   over the years have heard about you cannot own  land and house in Thailand b/s  , go to Malaysia where you can   ,  but who in their right mind  want to go there  as Thailand plays that country  off the break,for expat retirees

in summing up to the O/P  the 30 yr usutruct lease is as good as owning  it   but  find a good english speaking lawyer they are here,and cross your bridges as you come to them, in my case it was a enjoyable trip and still is, the very best of luck to you, a nice morning to all

An usufruct and a lease are different legal entities. You would had one or the other. 

20 hours ago, portroyal said:

It took long for me...

steps

- translate passport and birth certificate in thai. Submit to your embassy. (The translator must be in a list approved by your embassy). And get certification by your embassy

- submit the certifications to the thai foreign affairs ministry. Get their stamp

- go to the amphur with documents, get the yellow book and the alien pink card. (The fastest in the steps)

good luck !

It is always possible of course that they have changed their requirements recently, or that requirements vary country to country (what country you are from?) but this is a very different set of requirements which I experienced (and indeed which many others have posted on). I did my own translation of only my passport with no certifications from anyone. I am from the UK incidentally.

 

Just as a point of clarification, you have to get the yellow book before you can get the Pink ID card, although if you get the yellow book early in the day, and have your other documentation with you, I can't imagine there is any reason not to get the Pink ID card the same day

17 hours ago, nongsangcity said:

got me on to the 30b thai health scheme....saved me 1000s of baht over the years...

They have stopped the 30THB scheme for foreigners. If you are still registered, you are very lucky, as the scheme was never intended for Westerners (another loophole, like the Pink ID card)

I did mine two years ago, and had to have an interview at the Amphur office, but I didn't have to have the Phu Yai Baan attend, just a certification from him. From memory, it didn't take very long to get the YB, maybe a couple of weeks at most, once everything was approved. This was Hang Dong office. 

I got a Visa debit card on the spot, but it came with personal accident insurance which I had to pay 599 baht for. As I don't have accident insurance, I don't mind too much and in some ways, it isn't a bad deal if you don't already have insurance.

 

For some reason though, they do seem to be pushing the Union Pay card, even though they weren't even sure if it could be used to make payments in shops such as Big C and Tesco.

 

http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/PersonalBanking/DailyBanking/Be1stVisaDebitCard/Pages/Be1stSmartSiriraj.aspx

1 hour ago, flexomike said:

Not true anymore, purchased vehicle in Bangkok with a Bangkok address, but have lived in Rayong for over a year and have renewed registration in Rayong, they said OK no problem

I don't think that that right.....as I understand, BKK plates have always had a special status, which means that you can maintain a BKK plate regardless of your location (and which is one reason that there are so many BKK plates knocking around)

 

I recently (within this year) had to get a new blue book for my car (having lost/misplaced the old one), which is registered in a different province to which I now live. They re-issued using my old address, and told me that if I wanted the address registered in my current province, I would need to get it done there, where they would issue new plates. 

If you change address to a different province from where the vehicle is registered, then you need to get new numberplates, so it can be a bit more involved than a simple change of address

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Try hash house harriers...tends to be mixed male and female farangs

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That's a photo of Pro Auto on Chiang Mai-Hang Dong Road......a couple of hundred meters down from Big C/Makro on the other side of the road (northbound lane)