Donnie Brasco

Nope.

Had a gf once again who said she could always tell because they smelled like men.

Even the really pretty ones.

Their faces always give their game away.

Feet. Hands. Mannerisms.

The male "copulative stare" is considerably longer.

One need not be rude.

As other comments state the uniformed woman was trolling.

However, in the interests of the community, I'll respond with the following:

Strong locks on first and second windows and doors to upgrade all your point-of-entry security.

Install outside lighting to illuminate dark corners near the entry.

Install night vision camera, conspicuous and non-conspicuous CCTV

Connect to wifi.

BUY some air horns.

Develop a cell phone alert system w/ gf

Baseball bat.

Stuff like that.

You can take all this stuff with you when you change dwellings.

*cough*

no

I have a one hundred dollar bet on that Jeb will take the GOP nomination.

Upon winning that bet, I'll bet a grand that he'll be elected US president in 2016.

The quadrennial dog-and-pony show that beards US foreign policy and leaves "the electorate" numbed and insensate must go on, must it not.

Bush in 2016.

I am not a racist, but...

Insert racist sentiment here.

I have to confess here to those who may not yet have figured it out . . . . . I rather enjoy my more frequent than occasional dabbles in racist banter and bavardage.

I find these forays into empiricism and pure reason will effectively purge a soul tortured by intellectual impurities.

Find a good airline.

Commute whenever you feel like it.

Any fraternization with of befriending of desperados in either jurisdiction should be for entertainment and amusement.

Like farang expat timeshare touts..

Those guys get all the young hot Thai women - just ask them.. when you have an hour or 2 to spare? ..and a few million baht to piss up against the wall

We, ah, have never met . . . . have we ;-? :-))

My hopes and my full support are in support of Sonya, my beautiful intelligent daughter.

This time next year she will have finished a four year programming/coding degree, very likely with something close to a 3.6 GPA.

She will be moving to Bangkok to look for a job in in her field of study.

She was approached several times during her university training to quit her studies and take up a full-time modelling career.

Wisely she made a forward-thinking decision to decline and do the odd part time gig but she has stuck to her projects.

She surrounds herself with other young people, mostly young Thai women, who hold the same values and beliefs.

Smart. Poised. Forward thinking.

Sonya is a truly remarkable young Thai woman.

It will be my pleasure to support her in all her endeavours as she heads out on the next phase of her journey.

Now she can program codes that will hack all banks and send all the 1/2 (0.05) cents to your accounts. Good daughter. Birds of a feather! Apples falling from trees!

Lemme guess . . . . . . You'd be grabbing yourself now wouldn't you ;-?

I'd suggest that you should be honest with your reply but that'd be expecting too much from a wreckdom of your caliber making the suggestions that you made.

Your second sentence contradicts your first.

Yeah

I hate it when when that happens ;-?

Do thais discriminate against a thai woman with a farang boyfriend/husband?

Yes and they sometimes openly comment about it also (but this is rare). However if you are in her home village it won't be too bad, you'd probably just be seen as a patron-farang.

Typically Thais in mainstream circles tend to consider a women who marries a foreigner to be of low-status or even a prostitute. It won't be derogatory though it will be just matter-of-fact to them.

For the last sixty years or so people of the quaint riverine village of krungthepmahanakhornetcetcetc have been doing just that.

Well-travelled, well-read, well-heeled, urbane, sophisticated, cosmopolitan, critically-thinking Thais would disagree with you.

There are (at last "count") millions of them.

Millions

Yep, some people.

I'm guessing you don't know many at all who have been propositioned in this way. Maybe even none?

Are you talking to me ?

I was not the author of that unattributed last line regarding the commenter's unattributed claim to having his unattributed friend(S) propositioned in this way. (One gets used to this type of self-congratulatory "truthiness" on TV.)

I do know of one gal whose previous "whirlwind pregnancy" by an unsuitable THAI boyfriend led to this kind of proposition from her mother who after a long conversation in English cited the difference in cultures as a positive thing. My friend was wise to decline her mother's kind offer. It was a perfectly sane decent proposal; genuine sincere heartfelt offer from a Thai mother who likely knew how cruel things can get.

Bangkok chat rooms were full of this sort of thing fifteen years ago when not everybody could afford a computer and so, perforce, it was left to adventurous middle class to affluent young things to experiment with their English or French or Spanish or whatever.

I know of other young women whose experimental stage had been piqued by "Internet surfing" in the late nineties.

This stuff was happening all over the globosphere and middle class Thailand was no exception.

The Langsuan Starbucks was a favourite meeting place.

Although these rendez-vous were more often than not innocent giggle-fests, some were not.

In many cases parents were scandalized.

Any Thai woman who gets seriously involved with a foreigner has some explaining to do.

To whom, and exactly what the nature of this explanation involves depends almost entirely upon her family's position or their perceived position in the food chain.

The Thai hierarchical system is the key here.

The higher her family's position, the daughter of a doctor or a prominent businessman, the more explaining she will have to do.

The lower her family's position, the daughter of a sam lor driver or a sharecropper, the less explaining she will have to do.

This should be evident to all parties from the outset.

If it is not evident, or if the need for explanation is blurred and obscured primarily by physical attraction and emotion there will be blowback in direct proportion to the woman's family's social standing.

I have heard of Thai fathers and heads of family actually begging and imploring a foreigner to consider abandoning marriage plans.

After a nice lunch another father invited his daughter's boyfriend back to his office.

Over coffee he pulled file folders of three years credit card receipts from his desk drawer, placed them squarely in front of the prospective groom.

He then asked him point blank if he was prepared to take over and support his daughter's shopping habits in addition to the normal responsibilities of raising a family. He added that although he hadn't spoiled his daughters he had always approved of their spending habits as a protection against inappropriate matrimonial choices.

At the other end of the scale we have all heard of entire villages in Thailand's agricultural hinterlands celebrating the good fortune that comes from their daughter landing a farang tuna.

Kind of works like that.

and i have friends married into wealthy families where the heads of the thai families came to them and suggested the connection!

I'm guessing you don't know many at all who have been propositioned in this way. Maybe even none?

I was not the author

Find a good airline.

Commute whenever you feel like it.

Any fraternization with of befriending of desperados in either jurisdiction should be for entertainment and amusement.

When the dek serves in bars give me an attitude because I only leave a ten baht tip on the tray, I take it back and say "ok, you no want John keep." Reminds me when I was a boy and didn't stoop to pick up a penny and my mother said: "Today you laugh at a penny...one day you'll cry for a penny." I guess that's why I retired at forty...thanks mom! Seems like some Thais need to listen better to mom.

Seems that some farang should be less condescending.

Leave NOTHING on the tray.

Inquire if diligent and attentive dek serves are permitted to keep all "tips in the hand".

If the answer is yes, TIP in the hand

At the same time telling them that you TIP only for SERVICE.

Ask 'em how they like "thai style" tipping. Or Chinese or Russian style. Or low rent Japanese for that matter.

Add to this comment (if your Thai or their English is good enough) that ANYTHING they have heard to the contrary from their stoopid "aunties" about farangs and tipping is bullshit racism.

The younger ones get it.

You will have done your bit.

The waitress is not a 'beer dek' She is 'service'staff. If you want to tip her give her the money direct not on the tray. Tray money goes to the bar not the staff. Many of these girls are really poor, trying to help their families,and DO NOT GET A SALARY. They rely on our generosity

and tips. The mean minded, mean spirited, scrooges here make me ashamed. If you can't afford to tip 10 Baht then do not go out for a drink. Do not come to Thailand.

Actually manic, with all due respect here both to your charitable sensibilities and the needs of dek serves everywhere, I tip for service and I tip well.

I do NOT tip some kid who grovels to some fake fat auntie farang expert who has TOLD the kid that we are stupid and rich and we have to tip Thais.

Instead I try to find out where in the bar the old hose bag is roosting and I crack into her about her being no better than a Mae Lao and that she and her racist bullshit belong in a museum of touristic horrors.

The only tip she'll get from me is that when she visits her kid in Helsinki she should never eat the golden snow she sees outside the bars and pubs.

My favourite success story here involves a once-young chap who'd had us all attend his Isaan wedding when the tart he married finally agreed to his overtures. I had the opportunity to speak with the local police official and his wife at the wedding. He actually rolled his eyes when I asked if he was related to the family.

In perfect English he filled me in.

The groom ?

Khun Eyes-Wide-Shut ?

Oblivious to all his bride's scams as long as he can be secured in the knowledge that various and sundry, all and every, anybody and everybody would like a bite of his tart.

"She's one of the good ones" he declared to me.

She and her family, however, were nothing less than a criminal investigation enterprise.

There were two or three daughters.

They sold off each daughter, first to a Thai, then to a farang and all the daughters were going on hubby number three.

Oblivious to all this, the success story has gone on to "wife-sharing" with a Slovakian MMA guy and various pursers and flight attendants, teaching English for an outfit that hasn't had a pay rise in a decade.

(From all reports, her Loy Kratongs and her Pi Mais and her Sonkrans are logistical nightmares with attendances at various water holes around the city with as many as three different swains. Hubby gets the Khlong Saen Saep attendance.) one of these guys, a frequent "guest" in the house "Trevor" built for her on over-inflated family land in Isaan has planted a mango tree in Trevor's front yard.

Her family approves.

(He'll never leave, though, will he ;-?)

You think Thais play the face game ? Well you haven't seen ANYTHING until you've seen a clapped out, balding middle-ager from 'over 'ome absolutely REFUSING to acknowledge that he, his nuclear family and on a daily basis his self respect are being cleaned out by the greedy, heartless psychopath he's "married".

Why ? He's spent so much time lording it over on his Blighty public school mates that he married one of Thailand's great beauties that he can't see the difference between her and some go-go bar queen that takes all comers.

Some guys will put up with anything to get a visa permissions to a jurisdiction that would expel them if they know the half of what he was up to in order to remain in his very own slough of personal ignominy.

When the dek serves in bars give me an attitude because I only leave a ten baht tip on the tray, I take it back and say "ok, you no want John keep." Reminds me when I was a boy and didn't stoop to pick up a penny and my mother said: "Today you laugh at a penny...one day you'll cry for a penny." I guess that's why I retired at forty...thanks mom! Seems like some Thais need to listen better to mom.

Seems that some farang should be less condescending.

Leave NOTHING on the tray.

Inquire if diligent and attentive dek serves are permitted to keep all "tips in the hand".

If the answer is yes, TIP in the hand

At the same time telling them that you TIP only for SERVICE.

Ask 'em how they like "thai style" tipping. Or Chinese or Russian style. Or low rent Japanese for that matter.

Add to this comment (if your Thai or their English is good enough) that ANYTHING they have heard to the contrary from their stoopid "aunties" about farangs and tipping is bullshit racism.

The younger ones get it.

You will have done your bit.

Topic schmopic.

There are two types of Chinese causing trouble outside their country.

The first, the subway poopers (let's call thm that) are ignorant shits who do this all the time in their own country.

The second, the queue jumpers, the BTS pushers, the loud talkers and yellers, are a far more serious problem.

These are of the new generation of Han Chinese who (rightly or wrongly) believe they are simply superior to everyone else in their own country and everyone abroad.

These are the guys to whom Thaland has just handed over a considerable say in how in future the railways will be run and perhaps how in future agriculture will be managed.

They already have control of the Mekong as it relates to Thailand.

To get an idea of just how they will be treated in their own country, Thais might want to have a look at some of the crap that's being played out by the Hand in China.

HOW TO CONNECT WITH ANY WOMAN YOU DESIRE EITHER HERE IN THAILAND OR ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE PLANET

FOLLOW THESE GUIDELINES INSTEAD OF RELYING ON HER TO PERCEIVE YOUR "INNER GENTLEMAN"

The worst rebuff you can get in return is a polite, embarrassed, somewhat demure decline that I think any man worth his tackle can easily survive.

TRY THESE

1. IT’S NOT RUDE TO PAY FOR FOOD

As part of modern etiquette when dining with a lady, you are both expected to do the “check dance” (regardless of who invited who), even if she doesn’t want to dance. But only accept her offer to pay for half if you sense she’d be genuinely uncomfortable otherwise. A gentleman respects women’s equality, but wishes to pay for the meal as a sign of appreciation.

2. PUT DOWN YOUR PHONE

True, pretty much our entire lives are on our phones - but when you’re with someone else, devote your time and energy to being present and engaged with them, instead of with your device. All of your feeds can wait to hear about how your friend was chased down the street by someone dressed as a buffalo.

3. SAVE YOUR INNER LAWYER FOR THE COURTROOM

A gentleman understands the freedom of expression and thought, allowing others the entitlement of their own ideas. Even if convinced that your opponent is utterly wrong, graciously decline further engagement or dexterously turn the conversation - do not obstinately defend your own opinion until you become angry. You don’t see The Hulk invited to soirees.

4. DRESS LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU’RE DOING

Dressing well is a form of good manners. Don’t settle for shirts with baggy waists, too short sleeves, or too tight collars. From a hiking trip to a keynote speech, a true gent always knows how to look good. Unless you actually find a store with clothes that actually fit off the rack, go custom. People will notice. Life’s too short for bad shirts.

5. SO YOU THINK YOU CAN’T DANCE?

A true gent doesn’t stand idle, observing from a corner: you can probably already see the problem with this… creepy. Take a class and embrace your inner Fred Astaire. Dancing, much like life, is about courage and hopefully having fun - and remember, elaborate flamboyant arm movements disguise a lack of footwork.

6. LEARN HOW TO CONVERSE

Two year olds can have one word conversations. A gentleman should be engaged, thoughtful, and captivating. But do not steal the spotlight from others. Many people enjoy talking about themselves, so stay engaged, yet do more of the listening - and when they tell you some grandiose anecdote, let them have their moment. Don’t be a one-upper.

7. TO COFFEE OR NOT TO COFFEE

If the date has gone well, she might invite you up for coffee - or down; dating women who live in basement apartments is perfectly acceptable. The rule is if you’re not planning on calling her again or think that you might view her differently for having coffee on the first date, then do politely turn down the invitation. Do the right thing.

8. WATCH YOUR (DAMN) MOUTH

Endeavour to find words that express your ideas eloquently. A gentleman does not require offensive language to speak; for those who use words such as “gay”, “retarded”, or “ghetto” to describe something in a negative light not only adhere to stereotypes, but also show a lack of vocabulary and intellect. Cut back on that Hatorade. It’s a resentful beverage that too many fools drink.

9. KEEP THE CLASSICS

Chivalry is dead. Common courtesy is not. Some rules to being a gentleman will never change and should always be followed. The two biggest of which are opening/holding the door for other people and giving up your seat when there are no more seats, both in this order: an older lady, an older man, a lady.

10. BE A GOOD PERSON

This is everything else and it should be self explanatory, but we’ll go ahead and help you a bit more anyway. Be compassionate and show respect towards everyone. Don’t belittle or take advantage of others, ignore stereotypes, and understand that people from all walks of life are equal. It’s what we do that defines us. That, and a warm smile.

Do you think "flyingsaucersarereal"?

Because I've seen these silly topics before.

Could be.

Indeed.

The part that gets me is this: How the fork do the movers and shakers at TV expect to sell all these "fabulous" real estate parcels to guys who t'ink like dis ?

Zzzzzzzzssssssssohkay, there communitarians. Eyemjessfrackinwitchaz.

Fuggedaboudit.

The Indonesian Navy boarded the vessels.

While waiting for instructions from their commanders-in-chief the Navy (very likely) would have stripped the vessels of all moveables, fuel, valuables etc.

After word had been received to more or less remove the likelihood of a repatriation of these vessels by demolishing them, there would have been a proper scuttling of these vessels.

The crew would have been removed and imprisoned prior to any of this happening.

And Indo being Indo you can bet that word went out to boat-scrappers far and wide that certain "accommodations" could certainly be made available to the right people.

So yeah. Brilliant kick-off for ASEAN. . . . . . or are the Thais gonna roll it back another coupla years now that they have nailed a countervailing multi-billion dollar infrastructure deal with the CHINESE.

Quote "Farang have to have sex, cannot wait.. go see bar girl have sex her, you no love her..I not care.."

She doesn't sound very educated.

Only people who speak impeccable English are educated?

You really need to get over yourself!

That was a very foolish statement to make.

Are you educated?

It's not the English at question, it's the attitude, hardly a rounded education. There was never a claim I was educated so no point.

are you suggesting that NO educated women would not make that suggestion? and he asked you a question nota a claim? no points

I may be wrong about this (and Gawd knows there are scores of TVisa "opinionaters" who would agree with me [that I may, like, actually be wrong about this] but I think he's suggesting that the OP just might be making this up.

His cop to bargirl diction (what was that excuse again ?) . . . . . to accommodate us "kii-nokers"? rings like a cracked dinner bell.

And he has close contact with educated Thai women who can't manipulate the present simple or use the preposition "with" even though a straight transliteration from Thai pretty well dictates that we need a "with" in there somewhere.

But, like I said, I am probably wrong about this.

There's quite a few Thai women who (after marrying their farang "Good Thai Girl" beard) are free to slip out and shag all the guys (they used to shag) in their set , all the guys they wanted to shag (because these guys were married) all the guys that their girlfriends say are/were hot. . . . . . . and anybody else they feel like shagging.

She'll say he is free to do the dirty as long as he doesn't make a spectacle of himself or embarrass her.

All they have to do is inform their farang hubby they no longer feel the need for sex.

With him as beard, she can keep her own secret sex life kosher.

She can even "gift" news of her farang husband's new celibacy to her Thai squeeze.

Even if he is no longer struggling with Thai fluency, Khun Beard will NEVER understand all the ins and outs of local sexual profligacy. It's taken him the better part of five years to reach that cute "farang na rak" conversational level but he'll never be Thai.

The novelty has worn off for her.

Indeed, Khun Hubby, the beard, can very well live out the rest of his days thinking that his wife's just tired of sex.

After all, she's always been his main pipeline into Toy Cowchah.

Cutting off access to the family love purse will be justified along these lines.

Be honest.

How many TV-ers have been denied sex or know someone who's been denied sex ?

God, this is a depressing thread already... Ever since the first time I walked down my soi with a Thai girl and she said, "Everyone thinks I'm a bargirl," I've had the feeling that most decent Thai girls that care about their reputation are ashamed to even be seen talking to a foreigner. (Cue "maybe it's just you" comments.) Even the ones that say they don't care are somewhat defensive about it. I kinda equate it to a scenario back home where a white suburban girl brings a black man home for the holidays. And as is the case in TH, a poorer family probably wouldn't care. Granted, just like back home, there are some middle-class and up families that don't care or just want their daughter to be happy. But I've found- besides all the other bits of culture shock- this issue makes dating or even meeting a quality girl here more difficult that it seems.

I can't wait for all the varieties of "my girl's not like that and she comes from a good family, makes a ton of baht, etc." that are sure to follow. But those of us that are realistic about this place know those girls are the exception and for the majority dating a foreigner is seen as a step down socially speaking. So, to answer the OP's question, yes. They even have a slightly negative term to describe these girls: "mia farang". Listen for it next time you're with a Thai girl.

I once brought my white girlfriend, who lived in a trailer park, home for the holidays to meet my parents who live in a upscale suburban African American neighborhood. They thought I had caught her committing a crime and was holding her for the police. But They treated her very nicely.

*IRONY ALERT* . . . . . . and did they treat her well because she was white or because they thought she had committed a crime . . . . . . *IRONY ALERT*