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They have to carry guns to make it peaceful? I know the majority of neighbours in my suburban neighbourhood, which is peaceful, and no one carries guns!

Therefore peace can be obtainable without guns.

That's a good one. And you know that how, because of the American culture that as soon as one gets a CCP she knocks on all the doors on the street to tell everyone, starting at your home?

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Look. For all you know, and definitely for all I know, maybe you're right. It's very possible and credible. It's just not possible that you know about it, either way, that's all. When my son takes me out to dinner, *I* don't usually know if he is armed, and I bought him the darned gun! I do know that sometimes he is(n't) because sometimes he has remarked on it.

No one wants you to carry, or not carry. Almost no one cares at all. And I think your little homily at the end there is cute. Spend a bit of time, cut in down just a bit, get it on a T-shirt. Remember how well this worked?

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It is a "cultural" thing, not a you and I scenario. And what the hell is a CCP?

I can't believe I read this entire thread.

Poor bastard, I thought I was the only one.

If you don't get sick or die then it was safe to eat?

Consider (using common sense) whether you should or not, pay your money and take your chance!

Now that wasn't too hard, was it? (rhetorical question)

Perhaps I should of been more specific, I'm talking Automatic weapons and some semi automatic weapons.

Why? Automatic weapons are not legally owned and pretty well not owned at all by Americans. Almost no American gun owner wants an automatic weapon. Why are you talking about a mythical beast in a discussion about reality?

Have another go, only with facts this time.

It might also be important to point out that nearly all of the recent massacres have taken place in "Gun free" zones.

Since "gun spinners" and "cowboys" are legal gun carriers, they are prone to obey laws...ergo, they are not walking around with their legal weapons in "gun free" zones.

As the old saying goes...When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

My daughter attends university on a campus with concealed carry. No one knows which students, professors and visitors are carrying guns, or if anyone is . She says it is so-o-o-o peaceful.

It is the main campus of quite a large state university by the way, well over 30,000 undergraduates alone, not some little private school.

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They have to carry guns to make it peaceful? I know the majority of neighbours in my suburban neighbourhood, which is peaceful, and no one carries guns!

Therefore peace can be obtainable without guns.

Also, most of the western world just can't understand Americans' fear and paranoia concerning their government. None of us come from places that have a perfect government, but we're content to let our imperfect electoral systems take care of that. I think few people in well-established democracies outside of the US actually fear that one day their government could morph into a tyranny focused on oppressing its people ... we've developed too much for that... our democratic systems and values have strong foundations now. OK - I can't say it's impossible, but I think it highly unlikely that any of the well-established western democracies (including the US) could slip back into the tyranny that you so much fear. But this seems to be the bogeyman that gun advocates always haul out from under the bed to assert their 'right to bear arms'.

I'm watching Britain and it reminds of the frog brought to a boil in a pot of water. The Brits don't have freedom of speech and they are increasingly having that proven to them. Immigrants come in and PC speech is demanded. There is a demand for Sharia courts. The British people really don't have use much say in what's happening partly because they have been indoctrinated for a couple of generations. Britain is no longer the Britain I used to know and the Brits don't seem to see it. I don't think even the Brits will recognize Britain in just 20 more years. Maybe they don't today as I don't.

America is relatively young. It was born in blood and violence. It was born in distrust of government, and had to fight off the British King to gain freedom and independence. Many of the original immigrants were escaping oppressive governments.

The founders of the actual USA - the original 13 colonies didn't even like each others' governments, and they didn't trust them. They had a hard time coming together as a nation due to this mistrust.

In the late 1770's a constitution was put together and ratified by the colonies. But even then some were so afraid of a powerful federal government that almost immediately it got ten amendments which are called The Bill of Rights. These are rights of the people - individuals. These are rights taken away from the government specifically to give to individuals.

The first amendment in the Bill of Rights contains the freedom of speech, of the press, and of religion.

The second is the right to keep and bear arms.

It goes on to list many rights including against search and seizure without a warrant, security in the home and personal papers, and so on.

Most Americans I know who own guns do so for a purpose such as hunting or target shooting. But they are very touchy about their right to own them.

We Western countries will never agree about the right to own guns, but more than 100 million Americans with more than 300 million guns say that if push comes to shove down the road, America will be the last free country standing.

I hate to have to mention this, but how many more children will Americans sacrifice in the name of chest beating about a paranoia dating back for some 244 years?

I never touched a weapon before military service at age 18 . And never touched a gun later and I'm in my 40's now.

But my native country is Norway, not the US . To carry a weapon there you need a special license , only police and military are allowed to carry guns, And hunters with rifles also need a special license.

Norway has one of the lowest murder rates in EU , except in 2011 when that mad man killed 70 teens.

But unlike the US we never have to worry about getting shot by strangers in public places, schools, malls etc. Its rare to see a gun, and even police are walking around unarmed .

It will be interesting to see how the gun advocates "twist" these facts around to justify their stance.

Americans believe in an outdated "right" to guns and Thais have them because they can. Simple really!

1. Can all Americans own guns? No.

2. Can all Americans carry guns? No.

3. If you have a certificate to carry in one State or city does that apply to all cities in the USA? No.

4. Does the above poster have even a clue about what he is writing? No.

5. Will anything be learned about guns by reading this thread? No.

6. How many years would it take an American Lawyer to get up to date on the status of gun laws in the USA? Years.

7. How many have read, "NRA v. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and NRA v. McCraw." No one.

They are only 300 or so pages each. Go ahead punk, read one and make my day.

Love ur sense of humour.

Americans believe in an outdated "right" to guns and Thais have them because they can. Simple really!

Ensure you write the visa number in the space provided on the arrival card, that usually alerts the IO to the fact that you have a visa somewhere in your passport. Then hand over your passport opened on the page where the Thai Visa is located. That may alleviate any problem.

bad "breaks" is a result of bad brakes!

It's stupid, white will turn yellow under Thai sun.

Duh? I cannot say I have seen any "yellowish" white cars in Australia where we have more sunshine than Thailand.

Stick with cooking.

I have a degree in Psychology, and thitohelps me to understand how a Thai woman's mind thinks....

I think it's important for Westerners to assimiliate as much as possible into the culture and customs of the people and land where they choose to live, but where we can help to raise Thai peoples standard of thinking because of different ways of thinking ... if we truly care and love Thai people and this land ... we also have a duty to introduce new ways of thinking that help.

Is it really necessary to assimilate? But to understand and be empathetic would be helpful.

Trade her (the rice cooker) in for a new model!

Street food is amazingly good...cheap...and you get to meet some interesting Thai people...as opposed to going to a farang restaurant...it is also somewhat like playing Russian Roulette...at some point in time...your luck may run out...

I am not sure if your membership status means you are a member who is a senior? If so, then playing Russian Roulette may not be a problem. But for "younger" members enjoy life for a long time to come.

Never ever eat under cooked meat! Especially pork.

Sometimes people need to make choices. Not always between good and bad, right or wrong or black or white. But maybe people need to consider and choose the lesser evil according to their own needs. Unfortunately the choice may not necessarily be for the good of the country.

“Looks like the OP has already made up his mind what he is going to do. So go for it and learn the hard way”

Yes I decided I am going to wait and see. I do not think I can get scammed if I am suspicious from the start however. Maybe I will be proven wrong LOL

“trying use a forum to decide what's right is a mistake...use your brains mate”

Sure… But I do not think reading about a variety of opinions and experiences from others can hurt.

OMG - do you not understand the consensus of opinion here? Or do you have too much time on your hands and just love to read your own writings?

It is amazing that so many posters find reasons to justify someone (in this case a German "reporter:) being physically "abused" (whether you like them or not). Not only in this forum but also other TV forums. I am not having a go at the moderator/s but at posters who do not seem to give a damn about respect for due process of law. Always looking for tenuous reasons to validate physical abuse. Shame on you.

"So many posters..." would require more than a passing amount of posters who, according to your post, are not... "respect[ing]" the law. I have followed this POST early because I am fascinated by both similar and different opinions on this matter and I have not found what you describe. I, for one, have made clear that violence accomplishes nothing and offered no advocacy toward that end. I am pretty sure I would have responded to agitators to violence as I find it objectionable. All the data is contained in these pages. So where is the difference between perception and fact? You, sir.

A few consistent themes emerge in this thread, among them that the journalist in reference either brings such misfortune upon himself, creates the appearance of such misfortune, or otherwise agitates the conditions to bring it upon himself as a martyr, then feigns otherwise. Even a cursory online search suggests this. These observations, and the note that journalists should ideally remain unbiased, in no way suggests lawlessness from online posters in this forum. Moreover, because your sensibilities are offended in no way even remotely suggests a poster on this forum is in violation of the law and since none are extensions of the State, do not have within their power in any event to act upon "due process of law." Simply commenting on the facts, perceptions, and opinions of this situation should not require the vague, subjective "respect" you mention- that is code for FEAR; though good manners are important. I have seen no example in this thread where anyone advocated violence, harm, or breaking the law. It is indeed relevant why this man continues to have conflicts with others!

So, if you stand so utterly "amaz[ed]" at something that is happening only in your mind, perhaps you could re read the thread and join the conversation based on content.

Are you in cuckoo land?

Physical abuse of local people or foreigners is widely reported in the press. It is not in my mind.

Rable rouser or not, Suthep's side just need to remain conscious of the fact that some of his followers invite bad publicity!

And I do not support either side.

He doesn't understand Thainess or peaceful protesting. Silly farang.

Love your sense of humour!

Som nam na Yingluk.

You raped and divided the country now pay the price.

A great day for Thailand and the Thai people.

Maybe, but will the "alternative" do better and introduce badly needed reforms?

Or will this just be another power grab in the name of "democracy"? Can the ammart give, NOT promise, reforms for the benefit of all Thai peoples?

Very sad and my condolences to their families and friends.

Where was the regulatory enforcement to CORRECTLY wear the life jackets. I cannot believe they were wearing them correctly (or at all). Had they been correctly worn this tragedy may have been avoided or minimised. But, this is Thailand - mai pen rai.

Oh shit - another one about to bite the dust...................?

How sad, never mind, nothing changes.