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Sorry Dave - please explain that earlier post - it comes over as just a couple of slogans thrown out!

Hard to make out what you are getting at there Dave. A silly post . . .

Glad you are awake Hanag. But in Trumptie Numptie fashion, you can only look at the past - the attitude - its not US to blame ! What the heck has it to do with 'maroon' Tim Walz - he is entitled to his opinion though he's on the fringe now. He's facing the 'morons' - is that what you mean ? Yes of course Pension Funds are also Tesla Investors - the Pension holders should have something to say about that. As it happens, I agreed totally with the 'right's' stance on Bud Light. Glad you abhor the Tesla violence, so do I, but I remember Jan 6th 2020 and apparently, you don't ! I'd like to chat to someone who regarded Musk as thier 'Darling' 15 minutes ago. ATB

Dave and Hanaguma - if I remember rightly - Musk started off assuming full Executive powers to dismiss Staff but after the ensuing disaster, Trump was cornered to moderate that to, 'recommendation' only.

Hanaguma - Musk holds about 13% of Tesla shares plus Share options - that's $ billions - (you do the sum). I think that'll hurt Musk ! A lot ! Yes it's sad for innocent Americans too - but remember the 1st rule for small investors. Don't put the money in, unless you can afford to lose it. Your post also misses the point that it's MUSK that is responsible for the boycott ! Wake up.

Spider I agree with your post but with respect, I think you mean Trump ranks as the 1st worst of 46 Presidents ? Trump is in his World of his own. It's painful to watch. The Guy is a joke . . .

Yellowtail - you know it's a conspiracists' hook to dismiss everything you don't like - you are then in control and vindicated. A pathetic stance of our times which I often come across. I take the BBC as I find it and don't trust them blindly. Listen to the fecking link and make your own mind up instead of being as weird as you are. Or close your eyes . . . . . .

Hanaguma - very strange reply . . . The reason I argue that Musk should get back to Tesla, is precisely for the concerns you expound. Tesla is an important USA Company, facing serious issues. They need their 'CEO' to be there to save/stabilise/take it forward. You say blah blah ' this would not be happening' if. What's this - you say - the Public Worldwide are on a 'reflexive' or a 'shibboleth' ? I don't think you can defend Tesla's situation Worldwide by talking about that ! It's the public reputation of his product because of his Political antics, poor quality aspects in the cars and the fact that Chinese cars, have overtaken him. So he should manage the Tesla Company and leave Politics. AIMHO of course . . .

Yellowtail. No. What Trump said was 'just a claim' ! The 'More or Less' analysis has researched the available statistics. Listen to the link I sent you. I think you'll find it credible . . .

Hanaguma - in the wider perspective, Musk's political clowning has alienated customers and potential customers around the World and in the USA itself - that's undeniable. Tesla sales are collapsing and the Cybertruck has been banned in many Countries on road safety grounds, (they also have problems with panels detaching from the body). You trawl around to find an upside but Musk needs to get back to the office and try to sort Tesla out ! There may be irony revenue from critical 'hits' on his social media but that $ will be peanuts against his Tesla losses. Which will inevitably worsen 😗

Hello Yellowtail. It was on a BBC programme "More or Less", the first feature on 12th March 2025 starting at about 4 mins 50 seconds in. It's a program whose writer is dedicated to looking at statistics and debunking them if necessary. You might like to look back - they have 722 episodes on file. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0028swz They also dealt with Trump/Vance desperate claims that the USA has given Ukraine $350 billion, which turns out to be, from memory, $122 billion, 16% of which was loans. Europe has sent about $20 billion more than that. If you have a VPN I expect you can access the programme from Thailand. ATB

TBL - there are many kinds of hormone therapy and it has many uses. According to the Report I heard, gender matters were not the subject of any part of the $8 million spent. So as usual, the Trump/Musk spin was basically, lies. Thanks for reply.

Transam - yes I've always found Toyota, (on the Sukhumvit, east of Chantaburi), to be fair. Last week, I also change the front disc pads and the rear brake shoes. The pads were getting low and one was very low - they were last changed at 160k km. The shoes were changed for the first time, at 320k and would have gone for another 100k IMO. I wondered if 320k was a record !

Yes well done NASA and SpaceX I'm sure everyone will be delighted at the Astronauts return, including Bannork of course. The core point in this thread was spot on. Musk can be as constructive in his Companies as he is DESTRUCTIVE in the political arena. So he should get back to his Companies, including the ailing Tesla.

OK thanks.