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I googled for "Asina Pornwasin" but couldn't access any results due to my parental controls.

Edit: CLASSIC!

It's ok. As long as we continue to write in 'farangy' language, they haven't got a clue what we write.

Dumbass OP.

Khun Chareowannaponrtipanduphrappanitunwattansipwoninnitang-innit.

"Pol Maj Gen Chantawit Ramasutra said the checkpoints, which will be about 100 metres from the rally site, are designed to prevent more attacks"

I thought these M-79 grenade launchers can fire 400m?

Although they have the accuracy of Thai cricket bowlers... which is a hope of hitting the wicket within 400m in every direction, shouldn't checkpoints be set-up at least half a mile away?

Then again... that would be beyond logical thought, which exists in leaps and bounds in LOS.

"He challenged Prayuth to swear in front of the Emerald Buddha the discussion did not happen."

I'm sure the Emerald Buddha would really listen to a request by Jatuporn.

It is clear that Prayuth is a bigger, living, problematical icon to Jatuporn than any for of Buddha, and Jatuporn should know - he has lots of valuable icons donated to him as gifts from rich, powerful PTP members, including yours truly K. T.

"It will turn laws into shackles for this country," Mr. Surachai said.

It is the laws that exist, but which are NOT implemented by the law enforcers, or rather are 'bent' by said law enforcers, which are the exact shackles of this country.

Such could not be explained more simply, me thinks. ???

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-27419558

See above link. If the military is so keen to stop violence why didn't they prevent the PDRC from breaking into the military base? Makes you wonder about their impartiality

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What is the difference between armed impartiality and not being confrontational with a corrupt police force?

Balances must needs be met, yet when a balance of corruption is not at 'the level', then that is when army commanders must make decisions about public safety.

It is clear that decisions were made by courts, and legally, to remove corrupt persons from office, and it is also clear that said 'bent' persons don't accept as such, as they are so corrupt they believe they could buy fridges from eskimos. Impartiality involves discretion, and somewhat value judgements based upon experience. However, when push comes to shove... I'd go with experience, and not personal value judgements...... which is what Prayuth has maintained to the extent he has.

Army Threatens Crackdown if Crisis Escalates

By Khaosod English

BANGKOK — The Royal Thai Army has warned that the military is willing to step in to bring about "order" if Thailand’s political unrest continues to escalate.

The warning was broadcast live on the army-owned TV Channel 5 this afternoon, hours after unidentified militants fired grenades and automatic rifles at an anti-government rally in Bangkok, killing at least three people and injuring over 20.

The statement, which was issued on behalf of army commander-in-cheif Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha, strongly condemned the attack:

"The public should condemn all sides who employ violence and use military-grade weapons on innocent citizens, and the public should send information or clues [concerning the perpetrators] to the Army,” the statement read. The statement praised all efforts to seek a peaceful solution to the political crisis, but also noted: "however, legal channels and dialogues might not achieve much in this period of time, because there are many debates and disputes. [The efforts] may be too slow to respond to the situation, which indicates a rise in violence."

The army went on to issue its strongest warning of a potential military intervention yet:

"We would like to warn all groups, especially those who employ violence with military-grade weapons on innocent citizens, to cease these actions immediately. If the situation continues to be marked with violence, it will be necessary for the military to launch a full-scale effort to end the violence, in order to maintain order [and safety] in lives and properties of the people."

"If the situation escalates to the point that unrest breaks out, for the sake of public order, the army may be required to deploy the armed force to resolve the situation. In that stage, if any individual or any group of individuals or any armed group responds to the army [with violence] or continues to harm the innocent people, those individuals will be subject to extreme measures of suppression under the laws by the security forces, in which the wrongdoers will not be able to seek any compensation."

Although the army's statement did not clarify under what legal provisions the military would launch these "extreme measures of suppression," some observers believe the statement refers to a possible invocation of Martial Law. Under Thai laws, commanders of the armed forces are authorized to unilaterally impose Martial Law in the event of unrest or foreign invasion.

The statement also warned against any defamation of the army, which will be taken as "a slandering of dignity and pride of the army. All soldiers will not accept such gesture."

The statement added that the army "belongs to the Nation, the Religion, the Monarchy, and all Thai citizens. It does not belong to any certain side. However, the army will defend dignity, pride, and uphold the public order of the nation and the people in the fullest capacity when the need arises."

The statement is bound to raise the ire of many pro-government supporters, who have long viewed Gen. Prayuth and the army as sympathetic to the anti-government cause.

Since the current crisis erupted last November, Gen. Prayuth has refused to rule out the possibility of military coup, raising fears that the army is contemplating yet another coup against the elected government.

Former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, to whom the current administration is allied, was ousted by the army in 2006.

The statement made no mention of the current caretaker government, suggesting that the army may be willing to deploy troops without the consent of acting Prime Minister Niwatthamrong Boonsongphaisarn.

Thailand has experienced eleven successful military coups since it became a constitutional monarchy in 1932.

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1400148335&section=11&typecate=06

-- Khaosod English 2014-05-15

If that is not threatening a coup, nothing is. Only this time the army will not have the element of surprise nor will they have the support of the whole country. The army does not have enough troops to enforce a coup nationwide. If the army cannot enforce it nationwide, what is the point of a coup?

When was an army coup ever nationwide? If you don't perceive the divide which has ALWAYS existed between Bangkok and the Northern gateway, namely beyond Saraburi, then you wouldn't know why coups have happened from day 1, throughout the recent history of Thailand.

The army employs a coup because BKK is the financial and governmental run centre of the country...and mandates for such, I would have thought, would be clear enough for such actions when corrupt madmen take control of government as members who rape the country blind for personal profit.

If populations arrive at risk, which has often occured, and is occuring now through bombings and killings of protestors against such, and the police turn a blind eye (because they profit from such a corrupt government), then the army has little choice but to step in to protect the populus..... or is that too difficult to grab?

With the benefit of hindsight, the army ought to have had a proper coup as soon as it was obvious that the PM had hobbled the judges during his asset hiding case after he first won power. He had no place continuing in a public capacity after that disgraceful event. The dozen or so years of chaos that his over-riding the justice system gave us was unfortunately quite an obvious result.

For this impending coup, they need to have a clear cut goal. That is to remove any trace of Shin DNA from any position of authority, for all time. I know how I would do that.

Any action by the army will backfire. The troops may side with the people and democracy instead.

Isn't that slightly ironic? Troops and Thai persons understanding democracy, for real?

Good, it`s about time these measures were put into place and now that the types of security of Thailand is being scrutinised by the International communities, means these new rules are here to stay.

This will make it much more difficult for criminals and possible terrorists to use Thailand as a bolt hole and a base for them to stay uncover, plus it will cut down the amounts of those of little wealth that have to hassle here to gain incomes and the undesirables.

We can expect to see a lot less undesirable farangs that have no legitimate reasons to remain here long term in the future and Thailand will be a safer country for it.

BJ what's your legitimate reason for being here?

It makes no difference why I am here, the point is that I and many other ex-pats living in Thailand qualify to stay long term under the imposed terms and conditions of the Thai Immigration Department and this is really what it`s all about.

Our family home and land is owed legitimately, I am not working illegally, I am not running any businesses illegally and my and many other ex-pats lifestyles here in Thailand does not affect others because we are not abusing the system or trying to find loopholes to bypass the system. I for one are one of the ex-pats here who cannot be blamed for causing even more tightening up of the visa regulations.

Like it or lump it, because that`s the way it is, plus the way I live in Thailand going via the proper channels to extend my visa every year means that the law is on my side and presently still welcome here with respect and left alone, and that`s the way I like it and want to keep it that way.

Westerners that have to do visa runs in order to stay long term in Thailand, the forever tourists, are of no benefit to the country or the ex-pats that are living here abiding by the system, and of course these people can be a threat to national security for obvious reasons, it`s only common sense that we cannot have foreigners entering and leaving the country at will without being tagged or properly vetted.

BJ, I don't have any interest in why you are here, it's just interesting that you appear to have far more legitimate reasons than others to be here

I bet he still has to report every 90 days!

And when it's shown that compelling potential Foreign criminals to get a visa doesn't actually result in a downturn in crime, will the Authorities then consider addressing the problem from another angle ? Stolen passports and forged documentation not being an occupation solely reserved for Foreigners !

Can't even identify crime without payments internally,,,,,,, let's not jump ahead of the game.

BTW, I wonder if this is also already trickling into other immigration functions. Just last week, I went in for my 90 day. Usually the immigration officer glances at it, rips off the bottom part, and staples it in my passport. This time, she took it to a computer and spent four or five minutes looking something up, then went to a printout and checked through that. I had no idea why a process that usually takes about 30 seconds stretched out to almost 10 minutes. Maybe this is the reason?

Actually, things are getting very strict here full stop, especially for teachers. I you don't have a BEd, but simply a BA or BSc, or even an MA... wait for your next visa renewal... and I'm not joking. Fortunately, I don't work in education, but I know a lot of friends, of course, who do, and people are now getting work permits rejected left right and centre for no having an "Ed" after their name....... it's coming.. quickly.

However, if you are in the know.. ... it aint much to get a 1 year extensions of an Non-B... ;)// ...

If they do not come, arrest warrants will be issued," he said, adding that the summonses would be sent to Reuters' overseas headquarters.

I am not a lawyer, but if Reuters overseas head quarters is not in Thailand, then said believe summonses would not be enforceable anyway.

They'll use Dubai extradition rules as a medium... you know.. ghosts an' all

First, why is this announced by the Police?

Second... i REALLY can't wait to see world-wide coverage of this one... "Thai Computer Crime's Act".

Third, is this is a lawsuit against individuals or Reuter's itself?

So much BS and innacuracy, before it's even started or kicked off the ground.

FOURTH - Reuters has all the videos and coverage, and if the RTN really want to make a laughing stock of Thailand... go ahead.... you will be removed by Chalerm (sorry, his replacement) head by head...

UN (not my father) and all and sundry have evidence in this matter... really... whoever is at the forefront of this Thai pursuit is off his rocker....

oops... Back to Chalerm again, what was that? I have a hearing problem.

You could hand this lot to Tony Blair and the end all round would still come up with roses, obtusively well....

Amazing this.. another idiot, totally out of depth unlawfully makes a committment, and we see all the frogs crawl out from under the stones they have been hiding under for a week, believing this is a new beginning of the old end.

Sorry guys, red pansies, but this is going nowhere. Don't build your hopes up too fast.... don't believe a word of your new ( ) PM's words.

What this is pushing for more is a real military coup, in his hindsight, and your so called buddies at the top won't be there for very long if such arises... that you can believe!

You really should try to keep up to speed

read the headline in the Bangkok Post (which is not allowed to be posted here) which refers to the opposition's plans being in tatters

You mean the one where Prayuth is moving his army's HQ following PDRC around, to make sure he backs them 100%?

Amazing this.. another idiot, totally out of depth unlawfully makes a committment, and we see all the frogs crawl out from under the stones they have been hiding under for a week, believing this is a new beginning of the old end.

Sorry guys, red pansies, but this is going nowhere. Don't build your hopes up too fast.... don't believe a word of your new ( ) PM's words.

What this is pushing for more is a real military coup, in his hindsight, and your so called buddies at the top won't be there for very long if such arises... that you can believe!

Now I'm at a loss of words. They are endangering the lives of many innocent students. Those Thaksinistas don't take any mercy at all. What a disgrace...

Wrong. I've been at the spearhead of this, and if you see the time of attack, even though downright ludicrous and barbaric to attack a University, it was clear nobody was around. Take heed in that the attack was not at a time as such that the university was not student laden, for once, even though it is unnerving.

" According to authorities, the attacker(s) had no intentions of taking lives, but instead, were trying to send a message. "

How do they know what their intentions were ? What " authorities " are these ? In any other news organization they have to reveal sources. How are we to weigh the opinions of an anonymous source ? These " authorities " should be identified, because that makes a big difference. Are the " authorities " the police ? The university ? Who ? It is an important point, because different sources, naturally, reveal different opinions. The reader then has a choice in determining the weight they should be given. Unfortunately, time after time, these statements from anonymous " authorities " are carbon copy identical, as if to even whisper what everyone one else thinks is like walking on egg shells. Truth be told, Rangsit University has generally been outspoken against the Pheu Thai administration - a fact that should not really surprise anyone, at least for those who are interested in drawing a line between all these attacks. For anyone watching this internationally, it is as profoundly sad and disturbing as it is transparent. These attacks occur again and again, perhaps in part due to the kind of investigations they receive ( i.e. next to none ) and perhaps also due to statements that the " authorities " routinely issue after the fact - statements so amorphous that they don't actually say anything.

Not often, actually never, have I disagreed with you. I love the legal poetry you write, accurately also.

However, referring to 'authorities' involved in this case does refer to inside sources I have within Rangsit. The alledged authorities in this particular case relate to a so said Dean/Owner of a particular university, who has a huge guard because of his past political impasse. In addition, not only is Rangsit, or its associated family outspoken, but there are many more local universities within such a vicinity, which I shall not include.

The time of the attack is, even if it was intended, with a grenade at such a time was wholeheartedly as statement, and not intended to victimise others than those at the very top. If the reds had wanted to inflict damage to many numbers, and believe you me I am not by anywhere means closely affiliated to the reds, rather much at the opposite end, they would have grenaded the place today, full of students. Let's hope this choice of warfare (be it guerilla or wanton) remains largely at bay.

You know as well as I DO who initiated this statement of attack, so we don't need beat about the bush on that one. However, the intent of this attack, which I knew about very early yesterday evening, was not aimed at human collateral.. for once.

Thus, in this instance, the authorities are those who are releasing statements on behalf of the University of Rangsit itself, and not police coordinated.

RSVP.

According to authorities, the attacker(s) had no intentions of taking lives, but instead, were trying to send a message.

I think we understand the message of the attackers (sorry no prizes for guessing who they are) we don't care who we kill just so we can stay in power and continue stealing as much of the taxpayers money as we can. Is that about right?

No...................its SPOT ON!!! +1to you for having a brain ...........BUT............................... and everybody knows it!!

Not quite so direct an attack, but rathermore we will hit anywhere to make a message. Rangsit has always, itself, remained largely unpolitical, despite its owner.

However, it is clear the grenade was launched by RED shirts at this stage, as CCTV footage is revealing.

TODAY, no security has been upped, and business as normal. Surprises me, a little, but the university itself will not give in to terrorist threats which the RED shirts are now clearly trying to improvise!

According to authorities, the attacker(s) had no intentions of taking lives, but instead, were trying to send a message.

If the authorities are in communication with these terrorists, can they tell us who they are?

No,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they only speak Cambodian!!

and Arabic, of late.

I am an insource of Rangsit, and it was politically motivated against the owner, Arthid Ourairat, who is a stern yellow... always has been.

The attack was not meant to inflict any damage to students or workers there, as seems clear because it was not at a busy time or when students would be studying. However, it was a clear message to the Faculty of Eduction, which was hit (Building 11), not to translate or interfere with red business.. as it goes, or further be involved in the student arm of the protesting units.

It was a random attack, and maybe by a local loony.. however, if it becomes a repetitive event, I shan't be near the University soon!

There is an element of truth in that Thailand may well get left behind though, if the doors are not well secured to the hinges soon.

Vietnam and Indonesia do look very attractive for current investment, and they have a much cheaper workforce than Thailand. It would make sense to new investors to park there, rather than here. IMO.

After 8 years of manufacturing in Thailand we are closing our factory and moving to Vietnam. The free trade agreement already in place with Australia only works one way meaning if you import from Australia you will pay irrespective of having the correct documentation in place. The certificate of origin means nothing in Thailand and must be accompanied with a further document that clearly states the words Free Trade Agreement. This document as far as I am aware does not exist.

In our case we have even had to pay import duty on returned parts covered by warranty that we can clearly prove were exported by us from Thailand.

I believe your company is making the best choice, and at the right time. I hope that your suppliers are in-line already, or that you depend upon self-production for all parts of the business.

I wish you well, genuinely! I'm sure your tax cuts will be exemptional, whether importing or exporting, compared to Th. Sincerely, best of luck!

Thailand is certainly losing out to potential business, and indeed the BOI have vented their concerns over the matter in recent months.

Given there are so many other Asian countries around which are currently stable, then one assumes that if Thailand continue along this path of self destruction, then it implies that the country will be overlooked in the future.

Of course any business must diversify, and be prudent enough in not putting all it's eggs in one basket, as that would be far too risky on an investors point of view. I hope that the country does start to realize that such consistent instability will give rise to investors looking elsewhere, which is evidently happening. Very sad for Thailand of course, since they will become the victims by virtue of their own incompetence.

The sadness is in the latter part of your post, unfortunately, for those of us who have invested and tried here. It isn't the country which needs to realise, it is those at the top. Inspite of some efforts to run the country by a minor honest few, the major dogma for those at the top has been to rape what they sew (i.e. take a large cut of what is/was potentially sound investment, along with foreign investment which has clearly become fragmented), as opposed to reaping long term rewards {rice scam being an example}. Alas, external approaches are very very sensitive now, with regard to Thailand, but not elsewhere in ASEAN (AEC state members)..

The crux is over the next few months, and if any hint of civil war is on the cards... Thailand will lose the lot... and will, indeed, have lost all future chances of being a major player in the AEC! Shame, such a shame.. but... such is... I'm not pouring my assets down the drain, and neither will anybody else!

There is an element of truth in that Thailand may well get left behind though, if the doors are not well secured to the hinges soon.

Vietnam and Indonesia do look very attractive for current investment, and they have a much cheaper workforce than Thailand. It would make sense to new investors to park there, rather than here. IMO.