JustAnotherFarang

5 hours ago, jacko45k said:

My Mrs is OK in the truck, but I don't watch what is going on because it puts me on edge. 

Aye, you are doing what most of us do here after a prolonged stay, eyes wide shut and hope for the best

2 hours ago, blackcab said:

 

You need to be extremely careful about how you word these comments, especially if the police become involved, as what you have said so far falls under the definition of blackmail, contrary to Section 338 of the Thai Criminal Code:

 

Whoever compels another person to give or to agree to give any person a benefit in the nature of property by threatening to disclose a secret, to cause injury to any person, or make the compelled person submit to the same, such person commits blackmail and shall be imprisoned from one year to ten years and fined from two thousand Baht to twenty thousand Baht.

 

At the minute you have said that you are compelling your ex-wife to give you the benefit of living in a house she owns and that if she does not do so you will disclose a secret and compromising video of her by selling the video for money.

 

I understand that you are very stressed at the minute and you undoubtedly misspoke and worded your comment in a way that you did not intend to.

 

As such, please take my comments as friendly advice and consider the situation carefully for the future.

 

Consider that a "sin" is not necessarily a criminal act, and even if it is you can still be guilty of blackmail in the manner I outlined above.

 

Finally, note that the punishment for blackmail starts with one year of imprisonment and rapidly increases.

 

Depriving an owner of assets such as a land and a house or the money they would receive from selling such property would make a case of significant monetary value, which would inevitably increase any sentence awarded by the Court.

This is why I would like the moderator to now close the thread but my foggy mind cannot work out how to do it.  Its great advice though

2 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

Same same my friend. Morally in your mind you bought and paid for it and it's yours...but in the eyes of Thai law legally it is 100% hers. Unless you were legally married when you bought said land and home, then you are entitled to half the proceeds of the sale. If the land is in her parents / sisters name you have no claim whatsoever. Is isn't and has never been your land and home

I was legally married and you are right, upon sale of the property she is entitled to 50 per cent of the sale unless she chooses to waive that right an signs accordingly.

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How could you be "forced to sell" property that your wife owns?   It's not yours to sell.

in the event of divorce you have to sell the property and split it 50/50.  This is my only home and I have no family back in the UK.

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Ok, so the house and land are both in her name, just as you originally stated and what you described as my "assumption" wasn't an assumption, it was an accurate reading of your post.   Thanks for the clarification, hope you get the advice that you need.

Yes, it was my mistake and ii have offered my apologies.  Thank you for taking the time

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"Im from liverpool too..."

What makes you think that I'm from Liverpool, never mind the same one as you?

 

There are some anomalies in your thread that don't easily add up, such as the ownership of her land and house that makes giving accurate advice difficult so don't be giving me down the banks for asking about them on a forum that invites discussion.     

Sorry Liverpool Lou didnt mean to offend.  Im Liverpool Merseyside btw

Thank you to all the posters for your time and advice.  I think I am a little more clued in now.  Moderators please feel free to close this thread

3 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

So you have video's on your computer that display criminal behaviour.

 

If those vids are of a sexual nature the BiB may very well bend you over.

 

 

I did and now I dont and will deny all knowledge until I receive counsel or wise advice which has been forthcoming on a pm from another poster,

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You posted this earlier..."my home and the land is in her name".    How have you mangaed to get your name, not hers, on the land and the home docs, then, if your previous post is not correct?

It is my home, I built it and paid for it from my earnings whilst married to my wife.  But instead of putting my name on the house andhers on the land, she went and put it all in her name and tried to assume control when our marriage went pear shaped.  Sorry for the lack of info but I havent slept and maybe have confused you in the process.

13 minutes ago, JustAnotherFarang said:

 

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

In short, what he wants is to be separated, live in her property but not allow her access to her house and land.

No your assumption is wide of the mark.  I bought and paid for my home, it was ours, not hers but she fandangled her way to trying to assume control of everything.  I prevented her from doing so with the video evidence against her and had lived happily alone until I met my ex gf who now poses a danger to the status quo.

5 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

So what's on this video? plenty of thai amateur porn online no big deal

I do not want to divulge such sensitive information but it is morally repugnant and criminal behaviour.  I will leave you to read between the lines

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

To be fair, you were asking for trouble allowing your new gf to access your tablet/computer, trawl your data. My women doesn't get to see anything I have.

 

As for what she's seen, delete it, or move it, and if the question ever arises deny it ever existed and stick to that story.

 

No evidence = no crime.

Im a fool for not hiding my password better from my gf but she was always insecure and I wanted her to see that I was not chatting to other women as she always suspected.  I have taken the precaution of moving all evidence to a safer place and wil deny any knowledge of it if push comes to shove because it was only ever meant to be leverage against my wife and her greedy family

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

In short you want to stay married and keep the property but not have her around. Not sure if that can be done as as long as your married she has the right to get in the shared house. 

You are right but she knows the video evidence against her and ran away back to Bangkok 2 years ago.  The last time we communicated she said I could stay in the house for as long as I lived providing I did not seek her prosecution, its was a sordid status quo that worked well enough for me and I have had no dealings with her whatsoever.  Now its the ex gf who is making threats knowing that if she tells the police they will come and arrest me first and seek the evidence, which no longer resides on Google.

Just now, robblok said:

@JustAnotherFarang

 

If the sin of your wife is of explicit nature you can be in trouble for having that on your google drive. Besides that i don't seen many problems.

it is of explicit nature and will result in the arrest of my ex wife.  You may well ask why I have not used it and my answer is simply this, my home and the land is in her name and by seeking divorce I would be forced to sell it.  I instead chose to keep it as leverage and keep the wolves at bay

2 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

• Definitely lawyer up now. I was in a similar situation with a nutter here, though in my case she didn't have anything on me. I was under siege for 3 months, her screaming outside my gate for 3 months. Was with her and lived through hell for 5 years and in the end her choice to leave. She even found a new place and moved her stuff out...I locked the gate and simply refused to let her return. The whole time I looked like the bad guy although in reality was her concocting everything. In the end she broke into my house and refused to go until I came and met her, which I knew would end up in her regular violence, screaming and her attempting to provoke me into something. Had no choice but to go to the police. Thought it would be a lay down misere....I hadn't done anything wrong. The police called her and told her to come down the station. Unfortunately they couldn't understand English and I could see I was in a bad situation. I could see her miming that I tried to strangle her lol, and god knows what else....even though I hadn't been within 100 meters of her for months. Obviously there was some agreement made and I was told I had to pay her 500k for her to leave peacefully. I pulled out my lawyers card (whom I had never seen) and told her to kiss my a$$. At that point all interest was lost, the policeman told her to leave my house immediately and that was that. She had also called the police previously because I blocked her on LINE app....and they actually came. Was all a big joke...laughs and smiles all round but we are in a foreign country with few rights and these things can turn badly quickly. You need someone in your corner. I felt much better and more confident after talking with my lawyer. Felt at least like I had some rights and control over my life again. You really do not have any choice, particularly if the police have already been. Normally they wont involve themselves in domestic disputes but sounds like this has gone past that. 

 

• Seems to be the way of things here. Many (not all) come into a relationship with the sole intention of getting something. Riches, Hollywood lifestyle, whilst bringing nothing whatsoever to the relationship except a lot of debt. issues and baggage. I really think they see living with a farang as a down grade and they should be renumerated for it. A lot of the issues we have by this particular type of woman I think the Thai guys often do too. Although they seem to have a better radar for this type and are in a better position to deal with it. You only have to watch their TV / Drama shows. They are all themed around the same thing, Violence, revenge, blackmail etc. Relationship here seem to be like a war where one person wins and the other is kicked to the kerb. They don't seem to come into a relationship with good intentions re family, growth, future...mutual happiness. A few women I have met here seem to only be interested in getting some leverage on you in some way. Many seemingly would love nothing more than for you to hit them. Straight in the bathroom for the evidence selfies. The thing is they come into your life....make your / their own life hell....are obviously dissatisfied or unhappy but refuse to leave. I've been here ten years now and still don't understand it. 

thank you so so much fo taking the time to relate, I appreciate it and will seek legal representation albeit I live in a small town and there is not much choice.  Thank you once again

2 minutes ago, phetphet said:

Might be an idea to install a security camera, in case she tries to gain access without your permission, or do something stupid.

Loss of face makes some Thais do crazy things.

 

You really ought to secure your private media or your tablet.

I did but she memorised my password and accessed it.

3 minutes ago, Swiss1960 said:

The thing with police works both ways:

Take a lawyer, go with him to the police, and make a report about your wife cheating on you, threatening you and making false allegations against you!

Since - according to you - your wife has no proofs, because her allegations are false  she will withdraw them pretty fast.i

It was my new gf that has made the allegations after I asked her to leave.  Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and this is her scorched earth policy.  The allegations relate to videos of my ex wife which she has seen after accessing my tablet.  I had to hold onto these videos to obtain leverage against my ex wife

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I was married to a Western woman, once was enough.

IMO it is completely unnecessary to marry a Thai woman, as long as one "takes care" that is enough for most women here.

The reason I married was so we could stay together in Thailand and I was then able to get my non immigrant o visa and a work permit for our business.  Now that Im over 50 I have a retirement visa and another thai lady who takes care of me ????

14 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Yes, good point. 

 

My Mrs decided to change her first name saying her new name was lucky. 

 

Not only the issues above, also my employer provided family health care benefits, pension benefits, all had to change to her new lucky name. 

 

 

caveat emptor.......my missus did the same, changed her name because her mum said it was lucky but it was all a lie, she was trying to avoid any prosecution for past financial misdeeds.  Once I found out she was being dishonest with me as well she did a runner.  A leopard can change its name but it never changes its spots