jdlancaster

Maybe you can help me find the methodology... I am not able to....thanks

And I didn't see in the op any concentrations listed or a methodology... id like to have something to compare

So

your claim: magic water and has no effect

my claim: it has effects

only point was to say it is more than magic water

any paper will do to refute magic water claim

My only claim is the plant has effects... your claim is it has none.... im refuting your claim it is magic water that has no effect.... im on a phone in a village with no wifi.... a pain in the ass to find things

What evidence can I post... steal a sample and mail it to you? I don't control a journalist.... you quote data from a non peer reviewed source and take it to be true.... I cant give you data they haven't published yet and won't for a long time

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031942211000525

eres a link on science direct of one article... maybe it will lead you to others

Ive wasted too much time on this.... have fun.... I tried to give people some actual data since you and others only mock thais and others and do not add anything constructive... if you wanted to find data you would... if you don't want to find good data.... you wont.... you simply made a choice

Your argument was it does nothing. ...

Your argument was it does nothing. ...

But here is what you type in..... eupatorium perfoliatum. .. that will give you a few studies.... I don't care to hold your hand to find more.... I dont know the other stuff in solution. ... and the major claim made was that the thais have no scientific basis for using this plant.... and once again I reiterate because you ignore"the solution used was not overly diluted as you claim" I saw it.

I make no claims about homeopathy it is a silly word and your focus on it is unwarranted

AND I DO NOT CLAIM IT PREVENTS DENGUE AND NEVER HAVE....I SAID IN MY ORIGINAL POST THAT IT MAY HAVE ANTIINFLAMMATORY EFFECTS ACCORDING TO THE AUTHORS of the papers I posted. Your arguments avoid any of my claims and your excuse is you cant find papers given authors and titles

Pubmed requires the author or publisher post his citation and abstract there. And im npt talking about distilled water.... for the laat time.... this is dumb.... I have published peer reviewed work and you haven't. ... you can't find papers with an author and title.... and use a wek excuse like I wont use google scholar (not google)..... and you probably wont have access to them anyways because it cost money or your university needs to pay for it....

Ebsco or google scholar..... google scholar will search many databases.... and you have an auhor title and more.... at unc chapel hill nc state univ of new hampshire and ghent university (belgium) ive seen plenty of use of google scholar.... then you are redirected to a publishing company such as elsevier and such

I would say that companies have researched aloe vera already and created creams that I can store alot longer and easily store for long periods of time. and the antibacterial cream is to stop infection it wont soothe the skin. Id say marijuana hasnt been researched due to it being schedule 1 in usa... and it does have some side effects... lol.... many good... some bad.... and for dengue I would focus on prevention and vector control but I would try the plant in question along with the current standard of care. I would not consider how I felt a reflection on whether or not the plant worked.... I still wouldn't know.... maybe placebo or maybe it even hurt me.... I prefer not to be the ginnie pig if possible... and currently there is no solution. ... only research. ...

Iphad.... drug companies do research on plant properties. ... as do univerities... and the government. ... they just develop them into drugs... then make similar compounds with higher affinity or less toxicity

Then you find the drugs method of action.... then you develop drugs with better efficacy

And as I stated several times I dont recommend herbal remedies. .. I recommend research to find the active ingredient

And my expertise is not on herbal treatment. ... im a nematologist and microbiologist

This is pointless.... you guys only draw info from anews aarticle. ... thats not an arguement

And iphad .... I don't think those are peer reviewed journal articles given the websites

I am referring to the treatment in thailand. ... the news article is wrong.... or do you believe everything you read in the news?

Protective efficacy of the recombinant, live-attenuated, CYD tetravalent dengue vaccine in Thai schoolchildren: a randomised, controlled phase 2b trial

Prof Arunee Sabchareon MD a, Dr Derek Wallace MB BS b , Chukiat Sirivichayakul MD a, Kriengsak Limkittikul MD a, Pornthep Chanthavanich MD a, Saravudh Suvannadabba MD c, Vithaya Jiwariyavej MD d, Wut Dulyachai MD d, Prof Krisana Pengsaa MD a, T Anh Wartel MD e, Annick Moureau MS f, Melanie Saville MB BS f, Alain Bouckenooghe MD b, Simonetta Viviani MD f, Nadia G Tornieporth MD h, Jean Lang MD g

If it makes yoi feel better its not homeopathy. ... I am arguing what the thais are doing has merit.... im not argueing for homeopathy... but the author mislabeling doesn't mean it doesn't work. ... the word homeopathy doesn't fit what the thais are doing. .. they are giving them drugs... plain and simple.... homeopathy is a buzzword... and you haven't supplied one scientific journal article against this specific plant. And anyways so people know they are also doing vaccine trials on dengue too in thailand so there are many things the government tries and they also do vector control. People take way too much disinformation from a sensationalist news article

If it makes yoi feel better its not homeopathy. ... I am arguing what the thais are doing has merit.... im not argueing for homeopathy... but the author mislabeling doesn't mean it doesn't work. ... the word homeopathy doesn't fit what the thais are doing. .. they are giving them drugs... plain and simple.... homeopathy is a buzzword... and you haven't supplied one scientific journal article against this specific plant.