jdlancaster

What is this nonsensical babble you are sputtering. ....? What are you claiming for or against gmos? Nothing you say makes sense.. gmos are safe .... and good for the economy save lives andgood for farmers.... thats my claim restated. .... nobody knows whatbyou are talking about.... you are implying things are in a debate because people talk about them? Thats what it aounds like.... I know its not what you mean.... but its what you are saying.... I talk about many things... and they surely aren't debates.... you don't make any sense.... give me a thesis statement or something. ...

You have established nothing... in order for you to establish something it would require you to make a claim and then support it with evidence. .. you are avoiding making a claim again.... there are no issues.... you present no evidence.... listen... I understand. ... there is no evidence against gmos.... I get it... you have no evidence to show... I was hoping you could show me something but you can't. ..

I do have access... and I have posted multiple peer reviewed journal articles showing the benefits of gmos.... the articles are all on one side.... the side of gmos... you again avoid posting an argument and supporting it.... issue is defined as an important topic for debate or discussion. ... there is no debate or discussion because there is no evidence has been presented here against gmos

Never said that.. just don't know what your thesis is on... you didn't say.... so I didn't want to guess... im not an engineer. . So I really don't know what you do all day with a thesis chair in the mathematics department. ... I don't care to speculate....

Yes... good luck with thesis in engineering... or math... or science whichever you are doing ... I can't remember. ..

Concede? Ya .... um... ok? I just disagreed with you.. or did I? Because you're incapable of putting argumt together. ... I've been asking for one since the beginning. ... all I do is wait...(you promised several pages ago) this is a one sided discussion. .. all of the arguments are on the progmo side... some antigmo claims have been made... but claims arent included in debates or discussion with evidence. . Any debater knows ive won by default. .. you amaze me... you have to be a troll... to conaciously avoid stating a position .... I find it difficult to believe you are serious

I answered your question. .. no... as you no arguments have been presented on the antigmo side.... so we are not in agreement. .... you can put me in agreement by presenting an argument. ... as of right now no argument has been presented on the side of the antigmos... that is the basis of any debate or policy discussion. .... so again we are not in agreement based on the academic definitions

An argument is defined (in a debate)as an opinion that is supported with evidence. Debatesare based upon arguments. I thought id thow that in there to preempt avoiding stating your arguments

Your asking a loaded question that your preparing to use for a logical fallacy... but to answeryour question... idk if its on both sides of the debate or if there is one unless you present the arguments first... I don't think there is a real debate because you haven't presented any arguments for your position. ..I don't know if they exist and therefore cannot answer your question prior to you stating your position. .. then when there are two sides to the argument then I can answer.... so far I only see one and therefore it is not a debate

The list is whatever you consider it to be.... what people discuss is irrelevant. ... Iran debates the existence of the Holocaust.... doesn't mean it didn't happen ... I stated my opinion already on gmos.... you state yours... ive asked you since the beginning. .. any argument u want to use is fine by me... youve only used logical fallacies so far

Start at top of your list with food security. .. gmos a positive or negative? Then work your way down. State your position. .. and no.... none of the reasons you picked are legit worries about with gmos. ... but its ok.... ull avoid taking a position. ... because then ud have to support it

And support your argument with data....

And to be clear I don't consider them issues as in... they are equal to debate. . Theyve been settled. .. just need you to pick a side

I looked at the list... the range of issues is everyone you stated from food security to risk

You are currently. .. moving the goal post... along with the fallacy of many questions. ...

I only want to know your point of view.... you and only you.... you who has asked leading questions and then denied what they implied... I need your point of view... its the only way to have a point of reference to what you are talking about. ... because its not clear. .. what did you mean by pp? What percent clarify our misunderstanding. ..

Please once again stop avoiding stating your position. ..you are avoiding statiing your position. ... I've been asking since the beginning of this thread... state your position and I will answer any questions. .. but you won't. ... my position is clear... and been supported with evidence. ......

Guesthouse. ... you are implying a side... but not explicitly stating your views on the subjects you stated... in which case you will state "I never said that" as a defence... what are you saying about eqch of those issues and what evidence do you have to support it?

Just because an issue is raised by a large segment of the population doesn't give it credence... its a logical fallacy called argumentumad populum...

state your positions explicitly on all the issues you just raised and I will give a counter point or agree with u depending on the side picked

tomacht8, What are these threats that have been mentioned? I've been here since the beginning of the thread... everyone says there are threats, but nobody mentions them, and nobody shows experiments... I've tried to answer it myself already... can't find anything... help me out.. I've spent hours looking

This is not including that.... you've made a claim... now you should give supporting information...

What are your objections!!!!! List them!!! All of them.

Are you sure tou don't want to make some up for me from your own imagination?

No, I've asked you several times... list them

We don't need this back and forth... my points are listed...

What are yours?

Why are you afraid to state your objections?

Why wouldn't these be front and foremost?

The GMO giants work with lobbying, influence opinion, arguing scientifically only with excerpts, employ blog writers on mass,

Try to get as much patents on plants.

Hopefully Thailand throws out these GMO loan sharks.

What is wrong with GMOs... How are they dangerous? What threat do they pose? How many people get sick a year from them? Which GMOs do it? How?

I will help you (to push up this threat, brings clicks and money)

What threat do they pose?

Countless numbers of threats.

99% are not explored in their interactions and long-term consequences.

In biological chains, economy, legislation, health and other subsystems.

Genetically it is possible to rebuild the tomato.

Let us take that a GMO company receives the patent on square tomatos.

Very useful, saves packaging material and saves fuel in logistics.

Environmentally friendly!

But in the long term the effect is unclear.

People who eat this GMO square tomatos regularly over time,

getting dumber, working as a blogwriter for the GMOs or getting red pimples on the ass.

To provide evidence for an lawsuit - action for damages, that the trigger was precisely this square tomato, is probably impossible.

That is the business model.

Countless number of threats? Please list ten.

What evidence do you have to support your claims? How do you know hybrid tomatoes don't do the same? How do you know organic tomatoes don't do the same? How do we know? What's the evidence? How do you know their business model? What about after the patent runs out? Monsanto's soybean roundup ready patent has expired... and the Open Source Seed Initiative... free GMOs... can't be possible?

What are your objections!!!!! List them!!! All of them.

Are you sure tou don't want to make some up for me from your own imagination?

No, I've asked you several times... list them

JDL,

My objections to GMO are a whole lot wider than safety.

It's your assumptions that have lead you to believe otherwise.

What does that mean? What are your objections? all of them.

What are your objections!!!!! List them!!! All of them.

Please guest house... tell me... please... what do you mean... I'm begging you... tell me.... What is an ok level of safety... be specific... teach me

Show me the evidence... any... I want to see the truth...

and it's not my assumptions... it's your implications... but it's not important... tell me exactly.... show me the evidence