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Well at least I know it can be done. Do they like it more than Thailand? Or what do they like more about it? I'm sure there are pros and cons. 

On 4/21/2017 at 9:26 AM, phuketrichard said:

Unless ur married or working, u wont get anything but a tourist visa for Myanmar.

Rents are very high as well and not sure they will rent to a farang that does not have a wp. All my friends that live in Myanmar and have apts, have wp's

 

Fiancee visas for traveling to the us are expansive  and take at least 6 months to obtain and UNLESS you intend of living in the states do not suggest u  got his route.

getting her a tourist visa... does she have land,  her own house, a healthy bank account,( showing deposits every month for the past year), a job?  without these.... forget it.

also u will need someone to sponsor her from the states as u dont live there.

Hi PR, Did any of your friends get married in Myanmar? I'm obviously searching for different answers and opportunities. I would like to stay in Myanmar, but not being able to live together for an extended time frame isn't my idea of a good plan. Some of your comments have given me a good dose of reality. I realize that any plan I decide to try will take time. Time involves my next job and also next home.. So at the moment at least I'm dealing in broad strokes figuring what will be a smart and doable plan. So firstly, have you heard anything good about getting married in Myanmar? For me it seems all things considered this would be the fastest way for my gf and I to live and work in Myanmar and then take the next 6 months to a year getting a visa to visit my folks in the US... that's actually doable. 

Thanks - I get a feeling you've experienced plenty - appreciate your take on things.  Anyone else please jump in too. Thanks. 

Thanks - that helps. Looks like I will need to come up with a long term plan. From what you and others have said - I think a tourist visa is out. She will need to be a dependent of mine. I do currently have a job, however, I won't in a few months. Does it make more sense to get married Myanmar/Thailand (I've heard Thailand) and then work toward a spouse visa for a US visit? or will that take as long to get as the fiancé visa?  I mostly concerned with ability to get the visa.  

No she doesn't have land/house/healthy bank account etc. She does have a real passport and her mother has a house with her name on it, but I'd rather not depend on her side... thus marriage, but still on the planning and researching end. 

thanks again, S

assuming I do get a 1 month rental with help of her family etc. Do you think we can live together? Or even have consistent overnight stays? I heard in the past this could be problematic especially in Hotels. 

I ended up paying the fine. Guy in front of my had the same issue and was having a hard time getting that he f'd up. They actually opened up another window for him since he locked down all 3 Immigration workers trying to make him understand he had to pay up. They were ecstatic when I paid immediately and then told the guy to pay for his lesson and not do it again. Thanks for the input everyone... It actually helped to know I likely wasn't going to win on this one. It won't ever happen again.. At least this screw up. 

Hi, 

I am a US citizen I live and work in Thailand and have been living with my Myanmar GF for 2 years. We want to visit my parents in the US.  We want to get an apartment in Myanmar to get the right visas etc. But there are many questions we need to get answers before we commit. For one, I have heard we cannot live together in Myanmar i.e.. in a hotel. I'm sure we could live with family, but I'd prefer a little more personal space.  Obviously she could live with her mother during the process, but I'd just like to hear from anyone who has been through this scenario. 

My understanding so far is that a spousal or fiancé visa are our best bets to be able to visit my parents in the US (assuming we want to be married.. we do) So, I'm looking for pros and cons of getting married in Thailand, Myanmar or the US. I'd appreciate any thoughts or experiences in these matters. Thanks. 

thanks - that is some great information. We aren't pregnant, however, we did have a close call recently. All of it made we want to think about how to go about it when and if we decide to make a kid. We're pretty solid and I 've earned enough miles to know it. And yes, I am an American citizen. 

Do you know of any advantage of getting married in the US as compared to Thailand or Myanmar? My understanding is Thailand is preferred over Myanmar. I am assuming US is preferred over Thailand as well. but there is a certain fine line between all of the choices. ie. I've heard we can't live together in Myanmar if we are not married. We want to live in Myanmar while we get the best visa (spouse or finance visa).. still in the process of figuring it all out. 

So again, thanks... I'm still a little random sorting it out. 

My GF Myanmar if we were to have a kid. Are there any advantages of having the kid in the US, Thailand or Myanmar? Ultimately advantages for the kid. Anyhow I keep searching for info on this subject and haven't found anything.. seems important and interesting. Thanks,

thanks this will help me develop my plan.

Thanks there is helpful information in here. I have a similar situation and would like some advice:

most important question:

My work contract ends July 1st. (2 years), and my extension of stay is permitted up to Aug 4th. 

I intend on taking a 1 month CELTA class that begins July 3rd. Just to be clear I will not have to leave the country to get a TR or TI stamp in order to take the class?

If it matters I had planned to go to Myanmar after that for a month or two and decide what or where I'd like to go. Ideally I'd like to keep my options open for a return to Thailand, a visit to the US or stay in Myanmar awhile longer. If you could shed some light on my Myanmar crossing as per what type of visa I should get/can get that'd be extremely helpful as well. Thanks 

Thanks,

Usually I go early so I am prepared to pay for the 2000 baht lesson. This one just got away from me. I'm going first thing this morning, (Tuesday). 

Hi I'm in a similar situation. 'can't believe I missed it. It was on my calendar, phone etc. but it notified me too late. oops. My 90 day period ended on the 10th, April. 7 days grace would be monday. My question is this: I usually go to the Lat Phrao Big C location. But I haven't been able to find their hours either. Does anyone know if I can go there and will I be fined since Tuesday is actually 8 days over? Any suggestions would be helpful. thanks. 

I am not sure what guardianship legally means I guess. Thanks

Hi Chillout and Thank you  for an amazing post,

I have a question about:

 "First she/he will have to go to the court with a helper of the agent and swear before a judge that she/he has been under the parents guardianship until now."  

In reality we have lived together in Thailand for 2 years - I am assuming your case was similar. But how would we say we met etc. if I have lived in Thailand for 3 years and haven't ever been to Myanmar? I was hoping this could  be reworded into a "she has her mother's consent"  

Did the agent advise this? and obviously it worked, so, I'm willing to try.. I was thinking that already being together for so long would be a plus. Your suggestion seems that they want to agree to an unblemished state for their records and likely appreciate that you made their jobs easier. .. I could understand that. 

Also, we would like to marry in the US or Thailand... most importantly that we could visit the US... Do you know of any advantages either way? Thanks immensily, Scott

Hi,

My Myanmar GF want to visit my parents in the US. We live in Thailand, She has an official passport and we want to get married to. Please don't freak out - those of you that have had a bad experience with marriage. We've been together 3 years - we're solid. That said - we just want to visit in the easiest and least hassle way possible. She could take some classes, we could get married either Thailand, Myanmar or the US (fiancé visa? or we could apply for a tourist visa) I've got an appoint with the US embassay next week, but I"m hoping someone can point me in the best direction before then. Thanks. Scott

I have a Myanmar gf. She's amazing and seems quite different than the stereotype thai woman you're talking about. A lot of it matters where they come from ie. Yangoon vs. the country.. I believe the country people are called Kaleen??? (I don't know much about that) It'd be hard to generalize since I haven't got any experience outside of one. Meeting? hmm.. massage shops, restaurants, online?? I'd look for a motivated student maybe from Ramkhamhaeng Univ. as they'd have a passport and be further along. My gf was poor and has some terrible stories but did have a great education. She picked up thai and english in no time. Focused, loyal, cute, hard-headed... anyhow that's my experience. She does have some bad apple relatives... so again, I wouldn't generalize.

Thanks for your perspective. I have taught one year and now would like to take on some type of higher learning. Bang for the buck is important, but honestly I do not want to pay anything unless I actually learn more about teaching and helping the students I work with. I have a BA from the Univ. of California, Santa Cruz, an online TEFL and a Business Certificate... All of these helped me and my students, but I just want more. I need to stay in Thailand, I need to continue working unless it is for a small break. I have heard about the Framingham program, but I am just fishing right now and looking for different possibilities.

Future goals??? I am really not sure. I enjoy teaching adults mostly. I am 52, kids like me but I'd rather shape adults. I could see university work as a possibility or working directly with corporate clients. Again, mostly I would like to learn from someone who is somewhat of a master teacher, or from from a respected system. Thanks, S

I have heard there is a new myamar computerized ID I don't think it is the pink card. Did you get your gf a passport? and if so, how did you do it? thanks. I am trying to help my gf get a normal myanmar passport too. thanks

Yes that is definitely an option. Do you know if anyone has an opinion which is better Thai vs. Myanmar education? Since more than likely we would be here for 2 years I was hoping she could do 2.5 and get a bachelors degree and then consider a masters in thailand or myanmar, but depending on how tough it is to get the ID card and passport we may not have too much of a choice. Thanks for all the answers. I am going to post in the Myanmar visa forum also and see if I get any more information. Thanks, Scott

At a coffee shop.

I didnt know about the new ID card. We will weigh all of it including moving to Myanmar at some point but there are issues on issues. Thanks again, Scott

Both good suggestions. We are going to the embassy nest week. And i will try the forum thanks.

anyone?

Has anyone had a positive experience getting a Myanmar citizen a normal passport when they already have a pink ID?

If so how long did it take and how much did it cost?

thanks, S

never mind.. I figured it out. sorry.

Hi My Myanmar GF has a Myanmar temporary Passport which only allows travel and between Thailand and Myanmar. We are trying to get her enrolled in a University in Thailand, but keep hitting some roadblocks. From everything I read it seems she will need to get a real Myanmar passport, most likely with a tourist stamp if needed and then get an ED visa when she is accepted.

I would like to know how involved it is in 2016 to get a normal Passport for her. She has many things going for her from my understanding:

1. She has a pink ID card - which is apparently gold.

2. She has a document that shows her and her brother are are a document for her mothers house (sorry I am not sure how to say that.. I think that they will inherit their mother's house... gf says this is important as a document.

I think I can manage the University process just fine ie. diploma, copies, translations, english proficiency, matriculation equivalent etc...

We do not have much savings so I was hoping the procedure would not be too costly. And also is there a service (recommendations) that she can contact in Myanmar to make things go faster for a little extra that is reliable?

We were thinking she could fly to Yangon try to deal with it and if it didn't go smoothly to fly back on her temporary passport. She says they will charger her 1500 or so baht everytime she crosses the boarder, which is fine... not exactly sure why? But the bigger question is if there is a possibility her old passport could be taken or she could be denied reentry.

She may do better not to even show her old passport which was procured from Thailand and doesn't even have her correct birthday... So would you think she just applies for a new passport without showing her old one?

and finally can she keep the old passport as well and use it for work etc? she just had it renewed for another 2 years. She wants to wait on the education for 2 years - but I know she'd be happier studying now if possible.

Thanks, I hope this isn't too confusing. Scott