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BBC reporter finds missed evidence /parts of bomb opposite the shrine 3 days after the clear up. Dutifully takes it to Police HQ.

Police say "sorry we are closed" and the Reporter is left holding bits of shrapnel.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

Just goes to show the incompetence of the RTPolice. Why were they in such a hurry to re-open the shrine? It is patently obvious that a thorough forensic investigation of the scene was not performed. Koh Tao all over again. If Jonathan Head can discover what could be vital evidence 3 days after the event what else could have been missed. The mind boggles.

Here is the link with photographs http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34007723

Interesting. Three and half hour journey. Any idea what the fare is?

I'm presuming that the foreign tourists killed and injured in the blast would have had travel insurance. I wonder if the insurance companies covering these unfortunate people will pay out for policies covering death or pay medical expences? Wouldn't surprise me at all to see these companies refuse to pay saying it was 'civil unrest'.

'Arab Lookng'' is very vague. Are they referring to his facial features, his clothing or what?

I'm often called 'lung' (uncle) by younger Thais and sometimes 'taa' (grandad) by the very young.

Very sad indeed. A quite un-necessary picture IMO, that poor girl's grief on show for all to see.

I wonder if the OP will have the same moralistic attitude in forty years time?

Ducks love to gobble up millipedes, chooks will also have a go at them.

Going a bit off topic about Americans killing anything that flies, let me remined you about the passenger pigeon. Before the arrival of the European they existed in their billions. When they swarmed they blocked out the sun. Unfortunately they were easy to shoot and good eating. The last living specimen is said to have died in 1914.

And I thought that cronyism and nepotism under Thaksin was bad.

What I don't understand is why there is so much fuss over the issue. It's years since Thksin was in the police, it's history. Does he receive a police pension which could be revoked? The man's a billionaire, loss of a pension wouldn't worry him. Loss of face? I doubt that he would give a toss about that also.

Dad lets me drive the black Mercedes Benz, Mum the white Honda CRV. My wife, family, friends, neighbors, and community in BKK are kind, considerate, compassionate, sharing, honest, and and an absolute pleasure to live with.

I guess when you live and associate with low class, you get just that. Education, strong parenting, and a degree of affluence here in the city is more akin to my upbringing and beliefs, and couldn't be further than that of an Issan peasant.

It's a great asset to help others; but judging by most of the posts, the majority are partnered with the very low class. They are nothing like us. You can't have expectations when they know no better.

Okay then. Some think my post is condescending.

I'll be straight with you then.

My Thai family are middle class. Mum and Dad own a couple of nice vehicles, land and property all about $5M. They are honest, proud and hardworking. This has been instilled in the younger members throughout.

My family are middle class and worth about $25M. I have no delusions of grandeur nor do I have a feeling of superiority thinking I rub shoulders with Hi-So; I'm not, I don't, and I never would. I have no time for them.

My family as with my Thai family started with very little but with a strong work ethic, smarts, and a warmth that draws good people, they have become successful.

My wife and I have never taken one Baht or Dollar from our respective families other than being provided a sound education.

My Thai family and friends are generous to those in need expecting nothing in return.

They have absolute hearts of gold and I have the greatest respect for them.

I say again, you can't have expectations of people who know no better.

Education and parenting instill sound values. It's just that many Issan residents are "sooner down from the trees" and don't possess the values many on here aspire to or possess themselves.

I'm happy that you are happy, but you post carries the implicit message that rich and educated means better values and manners. That is just bullsh*t.

I agree that good PARENTING instills good values, but money, status, education, nationality, and ethnic background have NOTHING to do with good parenting. Just as being poor and uneducated doesn't mean you can't be a good person with good manners and values.

There are plenty of examples on both sides... There are lots of rich and educated pricks who have an superiority complex and no compassion for other people. There are lots of poor people who are respectful and gracious and kind. And vice versa on both.

Maybe you didn't intend for this to have such a class division sentiment, but that is how it came across to me.

Don't be too upset with blackfox, all his posts on ThaiVisa on whatever subject are about his superiority. How he is a wealhy, handsome, fit man who was able to retire at 45, how he hates fat, balding farangs with bar sluts in tow, blah, blah, blah. Mr superior man,he's been chastised many times for his attitude by members.

Your comments about good manners are spot on.

The poison sting in the smaller species of scorpion tend to be much more potent than the larger ones as pictured. I think this is because the large scorpion can grip its prey (such as a beetle) in it's claws and thus be able to sting it multiple times, whereas the smaller scorpion cannot hold its prey so well and need a more potent sting to immobilise it's lunch.

The very word for selfish in Thai (hen gaae dtuua) literally 'see, taken care of yourself' sums it up. A simple please or thank you sometimes seems not to be part of their vocabulary. Maybe it's because that when dealing with a farang they are shy and tongue tied. Many Thais on the other hand are courteous and generous. I've tried to educate my Thai kids that 'manners maketh man' but I suspect many parents don't bother.

The OP mentions sin sot in his post. Sin sot is the most important part of the marriage arrangements.

This topic has been done to death on this forum. Just type in 'sin sod' into the site search facility - then if you've got 12 hours to spare you can read all about it.

Yes, why no mention of any attempt to apprehend the human traffickers and gang members organising these beggars. Arresting the beggars is simply bandaiding. No wonder Thailand remains on tier 3 of the US report.

Of course there is corruption in the West. Most people are inherrantly greedy and whilst most resist the temptation to steal (corruption is a form of theft) many don't. Here in Thailand corruption is endemic, it's built into the system, everybody's at it, i's just the extent that varies. Corruption is a basic failing of human nature.

A small example. Very recently in Australia certain politiciand were caught with their pants down over travel expenses. Junkets for MP's and their families were claimed as 'official Government business'. This lead in one instance to the speaker of the House of Representatives resigning. Would this have happened in Thailand? never in a million years, Thai politicians think it is their 'right' to fiddle the system, they think it's part of the perks of the job.

The so called 'Leaders' in Thailand set this bad example so everyone climbs on the bandwagon.

Just last week the young boy of one of wifey's friends in the village was knocked off the bike his grandad was riding. No helmet, not even wearing a t-shirt. He has horrible road rash on his back, arms and face. I asked his dad why no helmet, 'very expensive' was his reply.

Incidentally the Govt Hospital charged 3000 bht for the boys treatment.

Yikes. what happened to the 30b healthcare thingo at govt hospitals ?

30 baht scheme usually doest cover injuries for motor vehicle accidents. Other insurances are supposed to cover that. You may get treatment under the 30 baht scheme, i think it probably depends on the hospital and the patients circumstances. This has been discussed before.....

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/688469-30-baht-health-insurance-in-case-of-accident/

Does Thailand have farm fish they put back into the ocean to help keep the stock up.

I am from Canada there the salmon fishery is susstained by fish being raised in captivity then released to go out in the ocean and come back a few years later to be caught and ate. Now you seldom catch a real wild salmon all are farm fish. Wild coho and the farm raised ones most people catch donot even look the same on the west coast.

Does Thailand do anything similar.Or are they totally dependent on wild stock? Perhaps they should look more at keeping the stock up through placing more fish back into the ocean than they take out. Then methods of fishing donot become such an issue.

What Thailand do anything to sustain fish stock? You must be joking. They are rapeing the seas with abandon, and not only in Thailand waters, just last week Australian Navy boats caught Thai fishing boats poaching off the coast of Papua New Guinea.,

Opening a new business in Thailand is a dodgy business. Hope you've done your research about licences and visas.

Will it ever happen? I doubt it. Kids don't consider it 'cool' to wear a helmet. If they're serious about enforcing the law the BIB should ensure that ALL passengers on a motor cycle wear a helmet, not just the driver.

And if they're really serious about kids safety why not legislate that all crash helmets are of an international safety standard. Get rid of those cheap crap plastic things that if hit sufficiently hard shatter sending plastic shards into your brain.

If this ban is strictly enforced it will reduce the amount of fish caught. Great for the preservation of fish stocks but it will mean fish prices will likely soar.

Whilst I would imagine that many of the fishing boats are owned by their captains and not by the elite, undoubtedly the vast concerns processing and exporting the catch are very probably owned by the so called 'elite'. For an overview of Thailands fishing industry read this report....ftp://ftp.fao.org/Fi/DOCUMENT/fcp/en/FI_CP_TH.pdf

Having a full chanote is everything. I (sorry my wife) owns four parcels of land in this area (all paid for by me of course). She has full chanote on all four properties. If you look at the chanote paper you will see a drawing of the land precisely described, meter by meter giving the exact size of the plot. Ask your wife to translate the ownership details of the adjoining land, it's written there.

In all four plots tha my wife owns trhere is not one plot that has a full chanote adjoining hers. That means that they haven't bothered to register, ownership is disputed, the land has been mortgaged or some other problem. That means that if my wife should want to sell any of this land she would probably get at least twice as much as a similar plot without a chanote

Today a falang friend of mine came to see me and told me that he had just bought 17 rai near my village. He paid 2.2 million baht, it's just paddy presently under sugar cane - not suitable for buildings. I know I've seen It. He got it cheap, full chanote, owner deeply in debt. This lnd is about 25 klicks from where the OP stays.

200K at todays prices for 5 rai is a steal - buy it.

Left at 6pm, accident at 5am, I wonder if she had been driving all night without a rest.